IRC log of #zope3-dev for Thursday, 2007-07-12

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tjsmorning02:41
tjsyou guys might be interested in whats going on over at #storm :) canonical have a nice ORM and will soon be releasing zope integration, its a nice option for people wanting to migrate away from zodb but still use zope302:43
tjsjust playing around with it02:43
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tjsare there any examples of extending the IIntIds util to allow references with content in a relational database ?03:30
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projekt01Guten Morgen07:55
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mgedminhello, world11:24
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drzoltronhello11:25
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mgedminso, I checked out the trunk of zope.testing11:27
mgedminI see bootstrap.py and setup.py at the top level11:27
mgedminsetup.py --help-commands claims that 'setup.py test' will run the self-tests11:28
mgedminbut it doesn't11:28
philiKON_setup.py test is probably some sort of setuptools thing11:31
philiKON_no idea11:31
philiKON_the way to run tests is:11:31
philiKON_run the buildout11:31
philiKON_and then run bin/test11:31
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mgedminthanks11:34
mgedminthe README.txt could use a "Getting started" section11:34
mgedminouch, setuptools in ubuntu feisty is a tiny bit too old11:35
mgedminrequired 0.6c6, have 0.6c511:35
mgedmin:(11:35
* mgedmin easy_installs setuptools 0.6c6 into /usr/local11:37
ignasmgedmin: buildout complains, but still works with 0.6c5 iirc11:40
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mgedmin  Ran 152 tests with 2 failures and 0 errors in 20.704 seconds.11:40
mgedmintestrunner-edge-cases.txt and testrunner-errors.txt failed11:41
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mgedminoh, there's a zope3.org that's not a real zope3.org11:46
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mgedminthose two test failures are on python 2.5, btw12:04
mgedminiirc zope.testing ought to work on python 2.3, yes?12:05
mgedminthe great thing is that python2.3 is not available for my ubuntu any more12:05
huajiemgedmin: are you using python2.5 ?12:05
mgedminis there a buildbot that would catch py2.3 compatibility problems?12:05
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mgedminif not, can we set one up?12:05
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huajiethe current zope3 is compatible with python2.4 only12:07
philiKONi think our GSoC student made zope.testing work on python 2.512:08
philiKONit's just not merged to the trunk yet12:08
philiKONi think he just created gazillions of branches12:08
huajieok12:10
malthephiliKON: if an adapter raises an exception on initialization, a ComponentLookupError is raised in the context of the adaptation, hiding the actual exception. Isn't that a bad thing?12:11
philiKONmaybe12:12
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projekt01malthe, it is12:18
maltheheh12:19
malthewith pdb of course with patience the real exception can be discovered but the process is quite heavy.12:20
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projekt01malthe, lucky if you know which adapter fails12:24
malthewell I know now12:24
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baijummgedmin, can you paste zope.testing error from Python 2.5 somewhere ?12:29
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mgedminphiliKON: there are only four branches of zope.testing in SVN; two of them are mine, the rest are Zope3.3 and doctest-encoding16:37
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philiKONmgedmin: um, ok?16:37
* philiKON wonders what to do with this info16:37
philiKON;)16:37
mgedminphiliKON: just continuing the conversation from earlier --> http://zope3.pov.lt/irclogs/%23zope3-dev.2007-07-12.log.html#t2007-07-12T12:08:0916:39
mgedminbaijum: zope.testing failures on python2.5 are here: http://zope3.pastey.net/7069916:39
philiKONah, now i remember16:39
philiKONthe python 2.5 porting branch16:39
philiKONhmm16:39
philiKONit hought he had tackled python 2.516:40
philiKONperhaps not16:40
mgedminI also recall some discussion about that on the list, iirc16:40
mgedminand jim (?) saying "if it still works with python2.3, please merge the fix"16:40
mgedminok, gotta go now, I've got an appointment with a dentist16:40
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philiKONxenru: http://svn.zope.org/zc.buildout/trunk/doc/tutorial.txt?rev=76281&view=auto17:40
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* mgedmin wants to easy_install python2.318:51
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mgedminhey, I though the test runner was smart enough to allow me to use pdb.set_trace()19:00
mgedminbut it blocks on raw_input() without showing me the pdb prompt19:00
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mgedminI hate it when I intend to do one thing and an obstruction appears, and when I try to solve it, another obstruction appears...19:02
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J1mmgedmin, I use pdb.set_trace often in tests.19:06
mgedminso do I, and that's why I'm surprised19:06
J1mPerhaps the test is doing something tricky w stdout.19:06
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mgedminmaybe the doctest magic doesn't work when I put the set_trace call inside testrunner.py itself19:06
J1mThat happens sometimes and defeats pdbability.19:06
J1mOh no, probably not.19:06
J1mor it's probably easy to get wrong19:07
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mgedminsys.stdout = sys.__stdout__ saved me19:07
mgedminok I fixed one of the failures in http://zope3.pastey.net/7069919:08
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mgedminthis is an interesting failure: http://zope3.pastey.net/7070019:13
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mgedminokay, that tests checks whether the test runner performs test-suite validation (i.e. complains if it finds a None in the testsuite)19:15
mgedminin python 2.5 it's impossible to have such a test suite -- you get an error earlier19:15
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mgedminhow important is this check?  has it bitten anyone?19:16
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mgedminI'm inclined to change the expectation to just "TypeError: ..."19:18
mgedminin both cases (py2.4/py2.5) we see that something is wrong in the module "sample1.sampletests_none_test"19:18
mgedminthe error is presented differently ("test is None" vs "test is not callable"), but is essentially the same19:19
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mgedmingaaah, I'm an idiot!19:29
mgedminI actually want test failures to debug the new feature I'm writing :-)19:30
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mgedminnext question: why do I get a flurry of "Not printing coverage data for '<doctest ..." messages with python 2.5, but none with 2.419:40
* mgedmin peers suspiciously at trace.py line 59019:40
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mgedmindoes anyone have commit privs to python?  can we please get http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1429818&group_id=5470&atid=305470 merged?19:49
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eldarhow do you pack Data.fs in zope3?21:36
afd_eldar: check the there's a scripts folder in the ZODB pacakge21:38
afd_package21:39
eldarafd_, zeopack.py? Thanks :)21:41
afd_eldar: also, there's a TTW way too21:41
afd_click the "Server control" in ZMI21:42
eldarafd_, I don't have access to ZMI because I am trying to pack schooltool, and killed access to the ZMI21:44
eldaris there some script that I can just use and run something like: pack.py Data.fs21:44
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J1meldar, zodb comes with a zeopack script.22:32
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mgedminI think easy_install is reinventing Linux, poorly23:34
mgedminI get an interesting zope.testing test failure on another ubuntu feisty box with python2.5:23:37
mgedmin'testrunner.pyc: error: option --profile: invalid choice: 'cProfile' (choose from )'23:37
mgedminfollowed by23:37
mgedminFailure in test /home/mg/src/zope.testing/src/zope/testing/testrunner-profiling-cprofiler.txt23:37
mgedminFile "/home/mg/src/zope.testing/src/zope/testing/testrunner-profiling-cprofiler.txt", line 21, in testrunner-profiling-cprofiler.txt23:37
mgedmin...23:37
mgedmin    SystemExit: 223:37
benjimgedmin: I wonder if you have cProfiler installed?; wait, isn't that a 2.5 thing?23:40
mgedminit is a 2.5 thing, and I'm using 2.5, and I can import cProfiler from a python prompt23:41
mgedminand it worked just fine on my laptop, which is also running ubuntu feisty and has python 2.523:41
mgedmingotcha!23:44
mgedminit's the "system python is evil" reason23:44
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mgedminwhich I prefer to call "the pstats module from the old profiler has a non-free licence" problem23:44
mgedminI didn't know cProfiler also depended on pstats23:45
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