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| replaceafill | is it possible to ask a locale datetime formatter for the format string it is going to use? | 01:41 |
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| replaceafill | nm :) formatter.getPattern() | 02:01 |
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| lezardo_ | hello! | 16:11 |
| lezardo_ | I'm new to zope and would like to know if you think that next version of zope will also be a rewriting from scratch | 16:12 |
| lezardo_ | because learning zope3 for me is quiet heavy | 16:12 |
| lezardo_ | i have some difficutly to understant everything | 16:13 |
| lezardo_ | and would not like to have to learn again everything in next version | 16:13 |
| lezardo_ | anybody there?? | 16:16 |
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| timte | lezardo_: do you mean 3.4 or 4.0? | 16:27 |
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| lezardo_ | sorry i was eating | 16:41 |
| lezardo_ | i mean 4.0 | 16:41 |
| kleist | never heard about a 4.0 | 16:42 |
| lezardo_ | no i know that are no releases yet | 16:42 |
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| lezardo_ | but i mean does the next "big" version of zope would be a total rewriting from scratch | 16:42 |
| kleist | could you please re-phrase your question? | 16:42 |
| kleist | i think not | 16:42 |
| lezardo_ | or does they will continue on zope3 "schema" | 16:43 |
| kleist | note that zope 3 is not simply the version after 2 | 16:43 |
| lezardo_ | ? | 16:43 |
| kleist | i'd think so | 16:43 |
| lezardo_ | ok | 16:43 |
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| kleist | u have the zope3 book by weitershausen? | 16:43 |
| lezardo_ | i would be great because it's quiet difficult to learn zope when you are new... | 16:43 |
| kleist | it is, i know | 16:43 |
| lezardo_ | yes i have it | 16:44 |
| lezardo_ | pretty good but anyway... | 16:44 |
| kleist | it's heavy :-) | 16:44 |
| lezardo_ | it's still difficult | 16:44 |
| kleist | very very good | 16:44 |
| lezardo_ | yeah! | 16:44 |
| kleist | but the index sux | 16:44 |
| kleist | lacks a lot of things | 16:44 |
| lezardo_ | ok.... | 16:44 |
| lezardo_ | but it's the only good material i have found to learn zope3 | 16:45 |
| lezardo_ | i mean the only more or less complete one... | 16:45 |
| kleist | i recently bought that book myself | 16:45 |
| kleist | 2nd ed. ? | 16:45 |
| lezardo_ | yes | 16:46 |
| kleist | i've heard that the 3rd edition will be mainly errata | 16:46 |
| lezardo_ | i just bought it one week ago... | 16:46 |
| kleist | wait until 4rd ed. for new stuff | 16:46 |
| lezardo_ | ok... | 16:46 |
| lezardo_ | thx ;-) | 16:46 |
| timte | lezardo_: I don't think anyone has even been thinking about 4.0 yet | 16:47 |
| lezardo_ | oki... | 16:47 |
| lezardo_ | that's good! | 16:47 |
| lezardo_ | do you have already done website using zope3? | 16:49 |
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| ktwilight_ | launchpad is a good example | 16:59 |
| lezardo_ | it's seems so | 17:01 |
| lezardo_ | i had never heard about this! | 17:01 |
| kleist | https://launchpad.net/ | 17:02 |
| lezardo_ | really cool... | 17:07 |
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| lezardo_ | timte, ktwilight & kleist thanks a lot for your answers | 17:13 |
| lezardo_ | i need to go | 17:13 |
| lezardo_ | hope to see you soon on this chat! | 17:13 |
| lezardo_ | and again thx a lot! | 17:13 |
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| spython | hi, i'm trying to run a timeit test within zopedebug, any ideas what to "import" in order have access to root? | 21:55 |
| philiKON | you mean debugzope | 21:58 |
| philiKON | no need to import anything | 21:58 |
| philiKON | 'root' is the root obj | 21:58 |
| philiKON | you should get my book ;) | 21:58 |
| spython | alright i will damnit :D | 21:58 |
| spython | but i get: NameError: global name 'root' is not defined | 21:59 |
| spython | when i try to access root in my created Timer code | 21:59 |
| philiKON | ah, i thought you ran debugzope | 22:00 |
| philiKON | your timer code would have to load the debug code | 22:00 |
| spython | i did ran ./bin/debugzope | 22:00 |
| philiKON | hmm | 22:01 |
| philiKON | and then ran your timer code? | 22:01 |
| spython | yes | 22:02 |
| spython | timeit.Timer('list(itertools.islice(root['tsite']['stuff'].items(), 4500,4510))','import itertools') | 22:02 |
| spython | err.. with correct use of ' | 22:04 |
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| spython | does not compute! | 22:06 |
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| timte | spython: what if you just type 'root' in the debug prompt? | 22:15 |
| spython | >>> root | 22:18 |
| spython | <zope.app.folder.folder.Folder object at 0x2aa9530> | 22:18 |
| spython | <zope.app.folder.folder.Folder object at 0x2aa9530> | 22:18 |
| spython | woop | 22:19 |
| afd_ | spython: sorted(root.keys()) | 22:19 |
| afd_ | ? | 22:19 |
| spython | afd_: yes? gives me a list of keys, no errors | 22:20 |
| afd_ | then your debug session seems to be working fine | 22:21 |
| afd_ | maybe assign another object to root | 22:21 |
| afd_ | something like my_root = root | 22:21 |
| afd_ | and include that in your timeit call | 22:22 |
| timte | spython: run smaller chunks to see what fails | 22:23 |
| spython | like... Timer('root').timeit(1) | 22:24 |
| spython | i think timer fires up a "regular" python session. So you do not have access to any root or zope stuff that way | 22:25 |
| spython | afd_: I don't see the point in doing that | 22:26 |
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| instantfoo | spython: hmm, interesting... I'd like to know how to get that working too :) | 23:27 |
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| spython | thanks for the support ;) | 23:31 |
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