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| wiggy | you're doing trial-and-error programming | 00:02 |
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| wiggy | just look at existing code to see what it does | 00:02 |
| junkafarian | i have no codebase to check | 00:02 |
| junkafarian | ive got a template that references the standard ZMI | 00:03 |
| wiggy | svn.zope.org has lots and lots of code | 00:03 |
| junkafarian | and that calls "views/standard_macros/view" | 00:04 |
| junkafarian | which i assume is referencing a zope module placed on the python path? | 00:04 |
| junkafarian | wiggy: i dont like trial-and-error programming :P | 00:05 |
| junkafarian | its usually my last resort | 00:05 |
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| pcardune | philiKON_: are you around? I have a zopeproject question | 01:52 |
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| edgordon | when using a addMenuItem directive, what is it that determines whether the object will be added right away vs. taking you to an add form to set attributes before adding? | 07:04 |
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| lmiller | edgordon: If you define an addform that should let you set attrs before adding | 07:50 |
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| timte | Is it ok for a browser view to "return open(filepath, 'r')" or are files never closed? | 10:38 |
| zagy | files are closed when the object is disposed | 10:40 |
| zagy | so it would be ok | 10:41 |
| timte | great | 10:41 |
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| jap | any zc.buildout gurus here? | 11:53 |
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| wiggy | jap! | 11:54 |
| jap | wig! ;) | 11:55 |
| wiggy | jap: what's up with zc.buildout? | 11:55 |
| jap | i'm working on an app which needs lxml and installs that during buildout | 11:56 |
| jap | however, it's linking lxml to libxml in /opt instead of the one in /usr | 11:56 |
| wiggy | there is a plone.recipe.lxml recipe that builds lxml | 11:57 |
| jap | which i do not want | 11:57 |
| jap | hm, time to check that out | 11:57 |
| wiggy | that will try to build libxml2 and libxslt if needed as well | 11:57 |
| jap | yep, i see | 11:57 |
| jap | let's try that | 11:58 |
| wiggy | there's a growing amount of useful plone.recipe.* stuff | 11:58 |
| wiggy | cheeseshop can find them all | 11:58 |
| jap | something's building, time for some coffee | 12:06 |
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| jap | great, that seems to work | 12:24 |
| jap | now, for extra bonuspoints, is it possible to share that lxml between multiple buildouts? | 12:24 |
| wiggy | the recipe doesn't support that | 12:25 |
| jap | hm, bummer | 12:25 |
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| wiggy | hah, I just got confirmation that I have my first zope3 customer | 13:19 |
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| timte | cool | 13:21 |
| timte | are you self employed? | 13:21 |
| wiggy | yes | 13:22 |
| jap | nice | 13:22 |
| timte | wiggy: do you have time for another customer? :) | 13:22 |
| wiggy | not this week | 13:22 |
| * wiggy needs to get plone 3 out as well | 13:23 | |
| jap | this week? ;) | 13:23 |
| wiggy | tagging the whole thing on friday, installers over the weekend, press release and official stuff on tuesday | 13:23 |
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| jap | hm, cool | 13:25 |
| wiggy | very, developing with it is so much nicer than 2.5 | 13:27 |
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| wiggy | how do grokproject and zopeproject relate? | 14:18 |
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| grahamstratton | I believe zopeproject allows you to use Zope as a library instead of a framework | 14:20 |
| grahamstratton | So zopeproject will generate a sort of scaffolding for your zope app | 14:20 |
| grahamstratton | grokproject builds on it to do the same for Grok apps | 14:21 |
| grahamstratton | But I haven't played with either... | 14:21 |
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| edgordon | i asked this last night, but my question wasn't that clear. I have some objects that go to an add form when selected vie the Add menu, but I really would like for them to just populate w/ defaults and skip the form. How does zope determine whether to take you to the add form vs. direct adding via the @@contents page? | 16:42 |
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| spython | edgordon: hmm, the add-button below the listing submits to @@contents.. but add via the addmenu submits to @@+ | 16:49 |
| spython | if I'm not mistaken | 16:50 |
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| edgordon | oh really? cause i have some objects from the addmenu that submit to @@contents. I have added defaults to all the attributes, so i am just trying to figure out how to skip the add form. In the project i am working on, they want the user to add a bunch of items, then view a single form w/ all the folder's contents on one form, so they can quickly populate all the info in one place. That is done (thanks formlib), but I am having | 16:51 |
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| spython | edgordon: you could check zope/app/container/browser/contents.py to see how it works | 16:54 |
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| spython | search for container_add_button, addObject, hasAdding.. might find some valuable info | 16:57 |
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| spython | just giving you pointers here :) | 16:57 |
| spython | search in that .py-file that is.. | 16:58 |
| edgordon | spython:yeah, thanks. reading through that now. Guess that should have been my starting point, I was just focusing on the interface and didn't think of that | 17:00 |
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| CrippsFX | hello room. Did everybody miss me? | 17:21 |
| edgordon | yep | 17:22 |
| spython | a little.. | 17:23 |
| CrippsFX | haha. aww, how sweet. | 17:23 |
| CrippsFX | so ... I've been gone for 10 days ... and probably forgotten pretty much everything ... here's a heads up ... I'll probably be asking some pretty elementary questions for the next few days ;) | 17:24 |
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| * CrippsFX waves to mgedmin | 17:30 | |
| * mgedmin waves back to CrippsFX | 17:30 | |
| CrippsFX | :) | 17:30 |
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| edgordon | spython: thanks for the pointers. I got it done. | 18:49 |
| junkafarian | btw wiggy/benji thanks for your help last night | 18:50 |
| junkafarian | got it fixed in the end | 18:50 |
| benji | cool | 18:50 |
| junkafarian | not really knowing what you are doing to start with never helps | 18:51 |
| junkafarian | once again philipps book helped a lot | 18:52 |
| benji | junkafarian: if you figure out how to know what you're doing before you start something, let me know <wink> | 18:53 |
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| junkafarian | benji: its a long time goal of mine ;) | 18:55 |
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| CrippsFX | benji: I don't think there's any hope for any of us in that department :) | 19:33 |
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| benji | heh | 19:54 |
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| spython | edgordon: anytime | 20:07 |
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| J1m | Theuni, ayt? | 20:47 |
| J1m | srichter, ? | 20:51 |
| spython | allllright | 20:53 |
| benji | spython: shh! We're playing hide-and-seek with J1m. | 20:58 |
| * benji sneaks behind a shrub. | 21:00 | |
| * spython closes his eyes | 21:01 | |
| spython | I'm unvisible! | 21:01 |
| * benji makes a mental note to not pick spython to be on his team next time. | 21:02 | |
| spython | :D | 21:02 |
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| srichter | J1m: I am here now | 21:20 |
| J1m | I was going to ask you about the test failure in buddydemo. | 21:20 |
| J1m | I decided to ignore it. :/ | 21:20 |
| srichter | ok | 21:20 |
| spython | srichter: op some guys, you're making me nervous ;) | 21:21 |
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| CrippsFX | I have a template file located here: http://www.pastebin.ca/657262 ... when I try to view an object using this template I get a page that is completely blank except for the info, but I want a view under the ZMI ... what appears to be happening is that zope isn't parsing the metal tags. I was wondering if somebody could take a look and let me know what's wrong with my template. | 21:46 |
| spython | agh! yellow on white | 21:50 |
| spython | CrippsFX: hmm | 21:51 |
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| spython | why aren't you putting the namespace stuff in<html>? | 21:53 |
| spython | and add <head> <body> stuff | 21:53 |
| * spython likes stuff | 21:54 | |
| CrippsFX | spython: because I shouldn't have to for something that's only going to be a view. | 22:00 |
| CrippsFX | I have another page template that has all the xmlns stuff in a <div> and it works fine. | 22:00 |
| spython | ok! then I don't know :) | 22:01 |
| CrippsFX | damn :P | 22:01 |
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| spython | wow, i need a new mouse.. the pointer occasionaly decides to go insane for around 5 secs and the returning to normal | 22:08 |
| CrippsFX | spython: screw the mouse ... get a wacom tablet ;) | 22:08 |
| CrippsFX | much easier on the wrist, so I've heard. | 22:08 |
| * spython remembers the old trusty mice with a ball | 22:09 | |
| CrippsFX | hahaha. | 22:09 |
| spython | yeah, i got a penlike mouse some years ago and it was very easy on the wrist | 22:10 |
| spython | but it just stopped working after a year | 22:10 |
| CrippsFX | hm. That sucks. | 22:11 |
| spython | sometimes i wonder if manufacturers deliberatly puts self destroying mechanisms in their product, conveniently triggered the day after warranty expires | 22:11 |
| CrippsFX | spython: hahaha ... check this out ... in my template, I was using xmlns:metal="http://xml.namespaces.zope.org/metal" where it should have been xmlns:metal="http://xml.zope.org/namespaces/metal" | 22:12 |
| CrippsFX | spython: with some manufacturers, I wouldn't be surprised ;) | 22:12 |
| CrippsFX | but what you said just convinced me to buy a genuine wacom instead of a cheaper *imitation* | 22:12 |
| spython | ah, ok.. I always copy paste the namespace stuff.. never remember how to write them | 22:13 |
| spython | the pen mouse was nice, but you don't fully get the precision of a regular mouse.. but for surf/irc/mail it's great | 22:15 |
| spython | horrible with games obviously :) | 22:15 |
| CrippsFX | hahaha. Yeah ... I guess that only matters if you play games ;) | 22:17 |
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| CrippsFX | check this out ... now I have the namespace stuff correct, but I'm getting a traceback ... seems like the talinterpreter isn't liking something, but the error isn't very informative *to me* ... I need help decoding it ;) | 22:19 |
| CrippsFX | oh yeah ... error's located here: http://www.pastebin.ca/657310 :) | 22:19 |
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| edgordon | anyone else ever have trouble with Five views failing by just not showing up? I never have this trouble in z3, but w/ Five it seems like I get no feedback but 404 errors | 22:31 |
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| RaFromBRC | edgordon: i've found that usually means that the view object is failing during construction... usually in the __init__ method | 22:50 |
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| edgordon | ok. so frustrating though | 22:51 |
| edgordon | no problems on the commandline either | 22:51 |
| RaFromBRC | edgordon: yup. it used to be a lot worse, where ANY error in a view just showed up as a 404 | 22:51 |
| RaFromBRC | if you put a pdb in the __init__ of your view class you can probably figure out what's going on pretty easily, though | 22:52 |
| edgordon | yeah, some logging would be nice at least | 22:52 |
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| edgordon | oh, good idea | 22:52 |
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| CrippsFX | so, what *precisely* causes this error: Warning: zope.tal.taldefs.METALError: macro u'context/@@standard_macros/view' has incompatible mode 'html', at line 2, column 1 ? | 23:05 |
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| CrippsFX | ... well ...if somebody answers, I'll check the irclogs in the morning ... for now though, I'm going home. | 23:08 |
| instantfoo | hi, any suggestions/guidelines how to effectively sort/filter the result from a catalog search? | 23:18 |
| instantfoo | use case example.. say i want to sort the search results from the worldcookery app by creation date.. | 23:19 |
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