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| wiggy | FTP does not support virtual hosting | 11:03 |
| wiggy | it's jus not possible | 11:04 |
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| junkafarian | wiggy: so how can you provide ftp access to a zope site? | 12:34 |
| junkafarian | theres not much point in having the functionality if it only provides for one machine!? | 12:34 |
| bigkevmcd | ftp can't do virtual hosting | 12:34 |
| bigkevmcd | there's nothing in FTP that allows you to specify the hostname | 12:35 |
| wiggy | the ftp protocol just does not support it | 12:35 |
| junkafarian | so the hostname needs to be mapped directly to the ip? | 12:35 |
| wiggy | that's why webdav is useful | 12:35 |
| junkafarian | wiggy: because its over http? | 12:36 |
| wiggy | yes | 12:36 |
| * junkafarian will look into it | 12:37 | |
| junkafarian | thanks wiggy | 12:37 |
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| Theuni | hrn. | 12:59 |
| * Theuni reworks ZODBs oid mapping when importing zexp. Gnah. | 13:00 | |
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| iam-vivek | how to get logs of last day #python channel | 14:01 |
| wiggy | you ask on the #python channel | 14:01 |
| wiggy | this isn't it | 14:01 |
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| faassen | J1m: when I run a test.exe on windows (generated by buildout) I get a lot of messages saying | 17:44 |
| faassen | J1m: Module: eggs.zdaemon-2.0.0-py2.4.egg.zdaemon.tests.testzdrun | 17:44 |
| faassen | and then 'Import error: No module named eggs.' | 17:44 |
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| faassen | with the whole eggs.blah.blah again. | 17:45 |
| faassen | it only seems to be pertaining to tests. | 17:45 |
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| faassen | that is, it looks for .tests sub-packages. | 17:45 |
| faassen | as if it's trying to get to all the tests in all the dependencies | 17:46 |
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| J1m | faassen, I have almost no idea what you are talking about. | 17:50 |
| J1m | btw, I also can't pay much attention. :) | 17:51 |
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| benji | good | 17:55 |
| benji | well, something is good, but it's not in this channel <wink> | 17:55 |
| faassen | J1m: when I run bin/test.exe | 17:55 |
| faassen | J1m: in a buildout of zc.zope3recipes | 17:55 |
| faassen | J1m: I get a lot of stuff like: Module: eggs.zope.testing-3.5.1-py2.4.egg.zope.testing.tests | 17:56 |
| faassen | ImportError: No module named eggs.zope.testing-3.5.1-py2.4.eggs.zope.testing.tests | 17:56 |
| faassen | and then at the very end: | 17:56 |
| faassen | Test-modules with import problems: | 17:56 |
| faassen | eggs.zc.buildout-1.0.0b28-py2.4.egg.zc.buildout.tests | 17:57 |
| faassen | and a whole list of other eggs that have import problems. | 17:57 |
| faassen | as if the test runner is look for tests in it. | 17:57 |
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| faassen | the tests themselves that are intended to run *do* run. | 17:57 |
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| J1m | faassen, That's odd. | 18:04 |
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| J1m | If only there was som way to share tracebacks over the internet .... | 18:04 |
| * benji holds up a sarcasm score card with a "7" on it. | 18:05 | |
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| Theuni | The Java guys problably used some quite large amount of technology to find a solution for that problem. | 18:06 |
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| J1m | faassen, srichter, projekt01 btw, I'm happy y'all are trying to make the windows stuff work. Thanks! | 18:08 |
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| faassen | J1m: trying is the problem. | 18:12 |
| faassen | J1m: sorry, I cannot copy and paste from a dos promt in a vm ware window. | 18:12 |
| faassen | J1m: I wish I could, but I haven't figured out how. | 18:12 |
| * J1m wonders if faassen is yoda | 18:12 | |
| faassen | J1m: so you can be sarcastic all you like about sharing tracebacks, but I would give you a better one if it were easy. :) | 18:13 |
| J1m | faassen, it is easy on windows if you use the ONE TRUE TOOL. | 18:13 |
| faassen | J1m: anyway, I also get the following traceback | 18:13 |
| * J1m waits for benji: | 18:14 | |
| * srichter is just involved by answering projekt01's questions; but I have VMWare now, so I can test this stuff better | 18:14 | |
| benji | faassen: click on the icon in the upper-left of the dos box, click "Defaults", put a check beside "QuickEdit Mode", and click OK. | 18:15 |
| benji | Now you can drag with your leff mouse button to select a region and right click to copy it to the clipboard. | 18:15 |
| mgedmin | faassen: take a screenshot, paste it into a word document, and email it to J1m | 18:15 |
| J1m | faassen, I use emacs do do everything. When running tests, any output is captured in a buffer that is easily managed. | 18:15 |
| mgedmin | that's what *our* customers do to us | 18:15 |
| * benji watches as J1m realizes that the ONE TRUE TOOL is sarcasm. | 18:16 | |
| faassen | benji: that quickedit mode confuses me more. | 18:16 |
| faassen | benji: but how do I copy and paste something *out* of a vmware window? | 18:16 |
| faassen | mgedmin: I might just do that! | 18:16 |
| J1m | emacs on windows works pretty well. | 18:16 |
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| benji | faassen: no idea; I don't use vmware (much) | 18:16 |
| J1m | although shell mode doesn't work well, which makes me really sad. | 18:16 |
| faassen | benji: me neither. :( | 18:16 |
| mgedmin | seriously, if you have vmware tools installed inside the vmware'd OS, you get clipboard sharing | 18:17 |
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| faassen | mgedmin: I thought I did. | 18:17 |
| benji | ahh, true mgedmin | 18:17 |
| faassen | mgedmin: maybe Id on't have enough vmware tools installed. | 18:18 |
| faassen | mgedmin: my clipboard isn't sharing one bit. | 18:18 |
| faassen | anyway, the.. | 18:18 |
| faassen | paste board idea is actually interesting, I can of course use a windows browser .:) | 18:18 |
| faassen | http://pastebin/com/m7850dfd4 | 18:19 |
| faassen | is my most recent error on windows. | 18:19 |
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| faassen | something to do with the wrong version of visual studio to compile the ZODB egg, I imagine. | 18:20 |
| faassen | but I installed a straight Python 2.4.4 off python.org | 18:20 |
| faassen | so that's a bit worrying. | 18:20 |
| J1m | http://www.pastebin.com/com/m7850dfd4 is empty afaict | 18:20 |
| * J1m things windows isn't safe for faassen | 18:21 | |
| faassen | that might be because I can't copy & paste that URL :) | 18:21 |
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| Theuni | mgedmin: IIRC you have to enable clipboard sharing in some option field | 18:22 |
| faassen | but I am triple-checking that stupid URL and it's still that one. | 18:22 |
| faassen | weird. | 18:22 |
| mgedmin | could be, it was ages since I used that | 18:22 |
| mgedmin | http://pastebin.com/m7850dfd4 | 18:23 |
| faassen | right. | 18:23 |
| mgedmin | "recent posts" to the rescue | 18:23 |
| faassen | without the www. | 18:23 |
| mgedmin | and without the /com | 18:23 |
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| faassen | right. | 18:23 |
| faassen | that was all wrong. | 18:23 |
| faassen | as I said, my clipboard don't work. :) | 18:23 |
| faassen | J1m: anyway, what could cause that problem? you built that egg, right? | 18:23 |
| J1m | I have no idea and would still like to see a traceback. | 18:24 |
| * faassen is tempted to invoice this time double for utter windows frustration. :) | 18:24 | |
| faassen | that latest link works? | 18:24 |
| J1m | ah | 18:24 |
| faassen | http://pastebin.com/m7850dfd4 | 18:24 |
| J1m | mgedmin, posted it | 18:24 |
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| faassen | yes, thanks mgedmin | 18:24 |
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| J1m | Hm, that doesn't look at all like what you described. | 18:25 |
| J1m | You are having a problem building zodb. | 18:25 |
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| J1m | look at the message. | 18:25 |
| J1m | I have a feeling this isn't the right tb. | 18:25 |
| faassen | J1m: I'm not building the zodb, I'm expecting getting a windows egg. | 18:26 |
| J1m | http://pastebin.com/m7850dfd4 | 18:27 |
| faassen | I guess it's trying to build it then? | 18:27 |
| faassen | instead of giving me the binary? | 18:27 |
| J1m | Is that the traceback you wanted me to look at? | 18:27 |
| J1m | It doesn't look like what you described. | 18:27 |
| faassen | well, that's my most recent traceback. there was another windows problem I haven't solved yet at all. | 18:27 |
| faassen | J1m: yes, the other one where I laboriously typed stuff. | 18:28 |
| faassen | J1m: I can generate one for that too. | 18:28 |
| faassen | J1m: I gave up on that for the time being as it wasn't blocking me. this is. | 18:28 |
| J1m | dude, I don't have time to flail with you or to tease the right info from you. | 18:28 |
| J1m | Did you really need my help to understand: | 18:29 |
| J1m | http://pastebin.com/m7850dfd4 | 18:29 |
| benji | faassen: couldn't use use a browser in your VM to paste stuff to the pastebin? | 18:29 |
| faassen | benji: I did that just now. | 18:29 |
| benji | great minds... | 18:29 |
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| faassen | J1m: ah, does the installation not fall back on an older binary egg? | 18:29 |
| faassen | J1m: there's a ZODB-3.8.0b2-py2.4-win32.egg | 18:30 |
| faassen | but I guess it doesn't fall back on that. | 18:30 |
| J1m | no | 18:30 |
| faassen | not even 'default to released eggs' would fix this. | 18:30 |
| faassen | as the b2 isn't released either. | 18:30 |
| faassen | J1m: my apologies, I was so frustrated trying to get the error message visible that I didn't think. :) | 18:31 |
| faassen | J1m: I will make a bug report for the other error. | 18:31 |
| J1m | I'm happy to help but I'm especially time challenged today. | 18:31 |
| J1m | I'm taking tomorrow off to take my older son to college. | 18:32 |
| faassen | J1m: I'll just hardcode in a dependency on the b2 thing. | 18:32 |
| faassen | J1m: I just hate developing on windows with a passion. :) | 18:32 |
| faassen | J1m: good luck! | 18:32 |
| faassen | J1m: I'll post the erorr traceback into launchpad. | 18:32 |
| J1m | k | 18:32 |
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| CrippsFX | Does anybody know what's in the login.css file for chapter 10 of phil's book and/or where I can get that code? | 19:24 |
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| wiggy | isn't all his code on worldcookery.com | 19:35 |
| CrippsFX | wiggy: should be ... I haven't found it in the "site" package, but I'll take another look around. | 19:36 |
| CrippsFX | wiggy: oh, peh. It's in the example app code, not the WorldCookery site or example code ;) | 19:38 |
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| CrippsFX | has anyone else had trouble with the login viewlet code from Phil's book? I can't get it to work *at all,* I don't know what the issue is since there appear to be no discrepancies between my code and phil's ... what it *looks* like is that when I add the login viewlet to ship.Headers (as opposed to worldcookery.Headers) I get a traceback (pasted here: http://www.pastebin.ca/659959) ... all I'm getting from the traceback, really, is that there | 20:33 |
| CrippsFX | 's some malformed html, but I can't tell whence that issue comes. | 20:33 |
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| bigkevmcd | CrippsFX: have you looked at the start tag, at line 1, column 21 ? | 21:08 |
| CrippsFX | bigkevmcd: of which file? standardmacros.pt, or login.pt? | 21:10 |
| CrippsFX | I've looked at both and didn't find an issue | 21:10 |
| CrippsFX | ... but it could just be my eyes ... I'm out of practice on html | 21:11 |
| CrippsFX | bigkevmcd: in standardmacros.pt line 1 is: '<metal:block xmlns:metal="http://xml.zope.org/namespaces/metal"' and column 21 is the 'e' xmlns:metal | 21:13 |
| CrippsFX | *the 'e' *in* xmlns:metal | 21:13 |
| CrippsFX | in login.pt line 1 is '<div><span>this is just a test</span></div>' and column 21 is the 'u' in "just" | 21:14 |
| CrippsFX | line 1 on login.pt was pretty much swiped verbatem from phil's book. | 21:14 |
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| kleist | anybody has experimented with letting views/templates produce XAML ? | 21:24 |
| benji | kleist: is XAML the offspring of XML and YAML? | 21:24 |
| kleist | no idea about YAML, but it's the foundation for Microsoft Silverlight (aka Flash killer :-/ | 21:25 |
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| kleist | http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9029725 | 21:26 |
| kleist | from # 7: "The separate packages encourage the creation of dynamic server-side content much more easily than is accomplished today using Flash. It allows us to create compelling and dynamic XAML on the server and simply deliver it the way we do other markup (e.g., HTML)." | 21:29 |
| benji | kleist: never heard of it, but it should be easy to deliver from a Zope 3 app | 21:31 |
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| redir | I can easily auto render my interface with form_fields = form.FormFields(IFeedbackForm) | 22:56 |
| redir | but how can I set the default for a particular field in IFeedbackForm? | 22:57 |
| redir | I cannot seem to locate the magig way to do that | 22:57 |
| philiKON | foo = TextLine(..., default=u'The default') | 22:57 |
| redir | erm I mean dynamically at form generation time | 22:57 |
| philiKON | override setupWidgets | 22:58 |
| redir | which is in zope.formlib | 22:58 |
| redir | ? | 22:58 |
| philiKON | after calling the super class's setupWidgets | 22:58 |
| philiKON | you do: | 22:58 |
| philiKON | setupWidgets is a method on every form class | 22:58 |
| philiKON | usually inherited | 22:58 |
| philiKON | so, anyway | 22:58 |
| philiKON | after calling the super class's setupWidgets, you do: | 22:59 |
| philiKON | for widget in self.widgets: | 22:59 |
| redir | did I maybe see that in the doc tests? | 22:59 |
| philiKON | widget.setRenderedValue(...) | 22:59 |
| redir | as usual thanks philiKON | 22:59 |
| philiKON | np | 22:59 |
| redir | Hoope I run into you in Naples | 23:00 |
| philiKON | (the key is to use widget.setRenderedValue at the right time, IOW *after* the widgets have been set up) | 23:00 |
| wiggy | philiKON: did you get a talk in for naples? | 23:00 |
| philiKON | yup | 23:00 |
| philiKON | see http://plone.org/events/conferences/2007-naples/speakers-1 | 23:01 |
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| wiggy | ah, a grok.five based talk? | 23:02 |
| philiKON | sorta | 23:03 |
| philiKON | it's megrok.five, though | 23:03 |
| philiKON | grok isn't a namespace package | 23:03 |
| redir | OK I am going to go read the formlib source and doc tests and hopefully it will all be clear to me tomorrow;) | 23:05 |
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| nerdalert | I have a TAL/TALES related question... | 23:58 |
| nerdalert | is there a way to pass GET variables using regular TAL? | 23:59 |
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