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kleist | what's the difference between this channel and #z3-base please? | 13:30 |
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wiggy | this is for zope 3 | 13:30 |
kleist | and thank you too :-) | 13:31 |
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edgordon | what are the advantages of zc.catalog over zope.app.catalog? | 20:55 |
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ccomb | edgordon: some more indexes | 21:23 |
edgordon | If i just want to know every object that implements a certain interface, would that be most appropriate in a catalog or some sort of global utility? | 21:24 |
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ccomb | one way is to register as a utility every object you want to retrieve | 21:30 |
ccomb | then use getUtilitiesFor | 21:30 |
wiggy | in plone 3 we use a catalog index which indexes all directly provided interfaces | 21:32 |
wiggy | works fine | 21:33 |
edgordon | yeah, that is what i am leaning towards | 21:34 |
edgordon | cause i think i will also need to reduce the search my some other attribs | 21:34 |
edgordon | *by some other attribs | 21:35 |
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wiggy | for vocabularies what exactly is the role of 'value' and of 'token' ? | 22:00 |
wiggy | I can't find any mention of that anywhere | 22:00 |
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wiggy | is value the internal value and 'token' what the UI will show? | 22:00 |
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spython | Hi, I'm going to implement my own version of IntIds._generateId, is this the prefered way to do this: first a IMyId(IIntIds), and a MyIntIds(IntIds) and then just define _generateId in MyIntIds? | 22:24 |
spython | and MyIntIds obviously implements IMyIntIds | 22:26 |
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wiggy | there is just no documentation for them | 22:53 |
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ccomb | wiggy : the value is the real value you want to include in the vocabulary | 23:30 |
wiggy | figured that out by now | 23:30 |
ccomb | the token is just an identifier for the value, that can be used as a value in web forms | 23:30 |
wiggy | token is just a 7-bit encoding of value | 23:30 |
ccomb | a source can be used when the vocabulary is infinite | 23:31 |
ccomb | just to say if a value is in it or not | 23:32 |
wiggy | or for iterable vocabularies I gather | 23:33 |
wiggy | I see in several places that vocabularies are deprecated | 23:34 |
wiggy | but I can not find any trace of documentation on how sources can be used to replace them | 23:35 |
wiggy | sources.txt is not helpful | 23:35 |
wiggy | there is also no sources proposal on the wiki | 23:36 |
ccomb | I don't see how to replace vocabularies, they are really usefull for the Choice schema | 23:36 |
wiggy | zope.schema.interfaces is full of deprecation warnings for them | 23:37 |
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ccomb | we should probably look at z3c.form to see what is used | 23:39 |
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wiggy | deprecating something without having a documented replacement sucks a bit | 23:41 |
ccomb | deprecation warnings are in 3.3 ? | 23:43 |
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wiggy | # BBB vocabularies are pending deprecation, hopefully in 3.3 | 23:47 |
wiggy | from zope.schema.interfaces | 23:47 |
ccomb | this is not a real zope.deprecation warning | 23:56 |
wiggy | iirc philiKON's book also mentions that | 23:56 |
wiggy | so there are confusing signals | 23:56 |
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