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| spython | anyone know where to find the code that does the automatic indexing of objects when they are modified? | 00:26 |
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| spython | the catalogs in my app are put in containers and not the site manager, so I don't get those automatic stuff for free | 00:28 |
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| ccomb | spython : I think the automatic stuff depends on registration instead of the location of the catalog | 00:35 |
| spython | ok | 00:37 |
| spython | agh, i need to make two instances, right now two apps are sharing one and it's starts to get confusing :) | 00:40 |
| ccomb | sharing one catalog? | 00:40 |
| spython | no :) | 00:40 |
| spython | but they seem to not get along that well | 00:41 |
| spython | that's what you get when your "just-need-to-try-this-thing" packages become a completely new app | 00:41 |
| spython | yeah, i need to reorganize stuff :( | 00:43 |
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| spython | oh wait, I didn't actually register the container catalog :O | 00:56 |
| spython | doh | 00:56 |
| spython | like you said ccomb | 00:57 |
| spython | now i just need to figure out a good way to uniquely name catalogs when registering | 00:58 |
| ccomb | why do you have several catalogs? | 01:04 |
| spython | i don't want one enormous catalog :) | 01:05 |
| ccomb | you have a lot of différent indexes ? | 01:05 |
| spython | so one for each of my "network" which is a container with potentially a lot of content components | 01:06 |
| spython | maybe, 4-5 indexes in the content component | 01:06 |
| spython | there's no point in doing a site wide search in my app | 01:08 |
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| ccomb | you could then have one local sitemanager for each "network" container, with a single catalog in each | 01:09 |
| ccomb | just an idea | 01:09 |
| spython | hmm.. why not just put the catalog in Network.catalog | 01:09 |
| spython | a network isn't really a site :) | 01:10 |
| ccomb | a site is not a really site either | 01:10 |
| ccomb | just a component registry | 01:10 |
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| spython | I don't see what I would gain having a local site in a Network | 01:11 |
| spython | hmm, I wouldn't have to worry about naming conventions for my catalogs maybe.. | 01:12 |
| spython | but isn't it a little bit of "overhead" with one site per network? | 01:13 |
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| ccomb | this would probably lead to more simple api calls | 01:13 |
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| spython | ok, in what way? | 01:14 |
| ccomb | you get the wanted sitemanager depending on the context (the network) | 01:15 |
| ccomb | but I don't know your app | 01:16 |
| spython | hmm, that's true.. | 01:16 |
| spython | thx for tip, I will consider it :) | 01:17 |
| spython | I'm 1 month into zope3 now, so I'm not 100% confident with the concepts yet | 01:18 |
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| edgordon | is there not a direct way to get what interfaces an instance implements? implementedBy seems to only want a factory. | 02:58 |
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| tjs | I have a VocabularyUtility which looks up vocabs from a DB, and can return SimpleVocabs, and other stuff | 09:31 |
| tjs | following philiKON's book chapter 17, p341-342 he registers a function as a factory for a vocab | 09:32 |
| tjs | as a named utility | 09:32 |
| tjs | trying to do that by making my util a module-level singleton, that implements __getattr__ | 09:33 |
| tjs | so I can go <utility component= | 09:33 |
| tjs | er | 09:33 |
| tjs | so I can go <utility component=".foo.util.some_vocab" name='some_vocab'/> | 09:34 |
| tjs | because there are a whole stack of them, the util knows how to look them up just fine | 09:34 |
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| tjs | the issue I'm having is where they need to provide IVocabularyFactory | 09:35 |
| tjs | which is hard because they dont actaully exist until they are requested | 09:35 |
| romanofski | moin :) | 09:36 |
| tjs | G'day romanofski | 09:37 |
| romanofski | howdy tjs :) | 09:42 |
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| timte | Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive). | 11:19 |
| timte | svn: Connection closed unexpectedly | 11:19 |
| timte | I get this when trying to do a checkout (svn+ssh) from svn repository | 11:20 |
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| timte | anyone got a clue what's causing this? | 11:20 |
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| timte | ah, forgot the username | 11:37 |
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| sorindregan | hi, anybody can tell me how can I change the display format of the date value? (from DD.MM.YY in YY.MM.DD) | 12:12 |
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| philiKON | sorindregan: use the locale date formatter | 12:25 |
| philiKON | sorindregan: my book ( http://worldcookery.com ) explains how to do that | 12:26 |
| sorindregan | ok philiKON, thx | 12:26 |
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| timte | Can a utillity be registered as providing an interface it doesn't really provide? | 13:02 |
| wiggy | why would you ever want to that? | 13:02 |
| zagy | *G | 13:05 |
| timte | ah, there was more to it | 13:07 |
| timte | IB extends IA, component provides IA, provideUtility(component, provides=IB) | 13:07 |
| timte | looks like this succeeds in newish zope, but fails in 3.2 | 13:07 |
| timte | or I might just be missing something | 13:08 |
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| zagy | you should not want to register it if it doens't provide the interface =) | 13:09 |
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| zagy | i wonder | 14:25 |
| zagy | is there a supposed way to validate an object against a schema? | 14:25 |
| zagy | including invariants? | 14:25 |
| philiKON | zagy: look at chapter 4 of my book | 14:26 |
| philiKON | short answer: there's no single call | 14:26 |
| zagy | philiKON: okay, I know the single calls | 14:26 |
| zagy | would it be an idea to add such a function to zope.schema? | 14:27 |
| zagy | It seems like something recurring | 14:27 |
| philiKON | i wouldn't mind | 14:28 |
| projekt01 | zagy, see z3c.testing there is a schema validation test, it will test if the object implements the interface and the method arguments are correct | 14:32 |
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| zagy | philiKON: ping | 17:51 |
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| CrippsFX | w00t. My demo skin works. | 19:24 |
| CrippsFX | ... and it even looks pretty. | 19:24 |
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| philiKON | zagy: pong | 19:51 |
| zagy | philiKON: ah | 19:51 |
| zagy | philiKON: i checked in the browser:menu change | 19:51 |
| zagy | question is how to do it with the release/versions now | 19:51 |
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| zagy_ | hmpf | 20:07 |
| zagy_ | philiKON: did you say something? :) | 20:07 |
| philiKON | zagy_: ah, not yet | 20:08 |
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| zagy_ | ok, no hurry :) | 20:08 |
| philiKON | zagy_: i assume you changed zope.app.publisher | 20:08 |
| zagy_ | jep | 20:08 |
| philiKON | shrug | 20:09 |
| philiKON | it doesn't have a tag whatsoever | 20:09 |
| zagy_ | it does not? | 20:09 |
| zagy_ | umpf | 20:09 |
| zagy_ | there is a 3.4 branch | 20:10 |
| philiKON | shrug | 20:10 |
| zagy_ | well | 20:10 |
| philiKON | we only have 0.1dev and 3.5.0a1 eggs | 20:10 |
| zagy_ | *G | 20:10 |
| philiKON | first of all, your fix should also go on the 3.4 branch | 20:11 |
| philiKON | then i suggest we make a 3.4.0b1 release | 20:11 |
| philiKON | and a 3.5.0a1 | 20:11 |
| philiKON | and stop this dev-rXXX nonsense | 20:11 |
| philiKON | omg, the cheeseshop even has a completely differnet version | 20:11 |
| philiKON | http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi/zope.app.publisher | 20:11 |
| philiKON | how the hell did the beta get there? | 20:12 |
| zagy_ | no idea | 20:12 |
| zagy_ | so i guess... we take the 3.4 branch and move it to 3.4b1 tag | 20:12 |
| philiKON | huh? | 20:12 |
| philiKON | no | 20:12 |
| philiKON | you merge your stuff to the 3.4 branch | 20:12 |
| philiKON | the bugfix | 20:13 |
| zagy_ | right | 20:13 |
| philiKON | then we tag 3.4.0b1 from the 3.4 branch | 20:13 |
| zagy_ | that makes sense :) | 20:13 |
| philiKON | (after having edited setup.py and the changelog, etc.) | 20:13 |
| philiKON | and we properly release that on the cheeseshop | 20:13 |
| zagy_ | who will release it on cheeseshop? | 20:13 |
| philiKON | Theuni: can you give zagy_ and me access to zope.app.publisher's page on the cheeseshop? | 20:13 |
| * zagy_ zieht die frage zurück ;0 | 20:13 | |
| philiKON | :) | 20:14 |
| philiKON | semper saudum queret | 20:14 |
| zagy_ | Theuni isn't there right now, but i'll nag him tomorrow then | 20:14 |
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| philiKON | and then i also suggest we do a 3.5.0a1 | 20:14 |
| philiKON | just to get the fix out as an egg | 20:14 |
| philiKON | and to make the dev-rXXX stuff obsolete | 20:15 |
| zagy_ | mkay... | 20:15 |
| zagy_ | anyway, i'll need to do some RL things ;) | 20:15 |
| * philiKON goes shopping :) | 20:22 | |
| instantfoo | :) | 20:29 |
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| redir | is there an attribute (that I can't find) which allows for per field permissions settings i.e. constraint=isNotAnonymous or permission=modify or something | 21:21 |
| redir | ? | 21:21 |
| redir | In other words I want a schema field to only show up if a user is not anonymous | 21:23 |
| instantfoo | <class ...><allow attribute="..."></class> | 21:24 |
| instantfoo | oh | 21:24 |
| instantfoo | can't you just define a require? | 21:25 |
| redir | as an attribute on a field? | 21:25 |
| redir | required is a boolean | 21:25 |
| instantfoo | i think there's something like.. <require attribute="foo" permission="bar.View" /> | 21:26 |
| redir | in zcml? | 21:27 |
| instantfoo | yes | 21:27 |
| redir | thinking | 21:27 |
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| redir | so if in a <browser:page> directive I can add a require attribute for a given field as an attr in the page? | 21:30 |
| instantfoo | no, require is for the <class> | 21:37 |
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| spython | lets say that "iibtree[45] == 1000" in my IIBTree, and I later write the same value to it, would it be considered changed by ZODB? Or does the value have to actually be different | 22:07 |
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| bigkevmcd | spython: == is a comparative operator, it shouldn't change anything | 22:15 |
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| spython | that was just to show what was in my tree, a bit confusing yes :) | 22:16 |
| spython | so iibtree[45] has the value 1000... | 22:17 |
| spython | and if I write 1000 to iibtree[45] afterwards.. will zodb store the object or simply not do it because the value was the same before.. | 22:19 |
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