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| rocky | anyone know what topics are being planned for the FoliageSprint ? | 15:29 |
| jsadjohnson | srichter is preparing those. I think some stuff related to eggs and system administration among others. | 15:31 |
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| rocky | i'd like to know what i'll be working on :) | 15:33 |
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| jsadjohnson | I think we need to wait for srichter to wake up. :) | 15:35 |
| * baijum think working on "reducing the package inter-dependencies" would be good | 15:36 | |
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| mgedmin | agroszer: huh? | 15:54 |
| agroszer | mgedmin, sorry | 15:55 |
| agroszer | wanted to ask you where will you stay during the sprint? | 15:55 |
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| mgedmin | the hotel, afaiu | 15:55 |
| agroszer | thanks | 15:57 |
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| afd__ | anyone knows how to integrate pydev with buildouts & eggs? When pointing to the eggs folder (where all the zope eggs are downloaded) as a source folder in pydev, it will interpret the egg name as package | 16:01 |
| afd__ | I wonder if there's anything to make pydev aware that those are eggs, beyond adding those eggs to site-packages (not something I want) | 16:01 |
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| ignas | pydev? | 16:16 |
| afd__ | eclipse + pydev extensions | 16:16 |
| ignas | and by site-packages you mean the configuration in eclipse or the actual site-packages directory? | 16:17 |
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| afd__ | ignas: system site-packages | 16:17 |
| ignas | can't you just add eggs to pythonpath in eclipse? | 16:17 |
| afd__ | as far as I have seen, pydev can import eggs when they're in site-packages | 16:17 |
| ignas | hmm, i see, well i don't have pydev so i can't debug the problem | 16:18 |
| afd__ | ignas: I have tried, adding a new source folder which points to the eggs folder, but it takes the egg folder as package name | 16:18 |
| ignas | but you must add the path as "site" | 16:18 |
| ignas | which is easy to do in python | 16:18 |
| ignas | but i don't know how to do it in your project configuration | 16:18 |
| afd__ | ignas: pydev has a mechanism to add different folder as python site paths | 16:19 |
| ignas | "import site; site.addsitedir(os.path.join(here, 'eggs'))" | 16:19 |
| afd__ | it just interprets wrongly the way the eggs are structured | 16:19 |
| ignas | when eggs are in python path makes it work on python side | 16:19 |
| afd__ | and the eggs are just too many to add manually | 16:19 |
| afd__ | ignas: ok, let me try your solution, I'll report back | 16:19 |
| ignas | if configuration files are not binary (XML for example) | 16:20 |
| ignas | you can always write a small script | 16:20 |
| ignas | that would export python paths into the xml | 16:20 |
| afd__ | ignas: yeah, that's what I did last time | 16:20 |
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| ignas | afd__: when you say "as python site paths" you mean "as entries in sys.path (a.k.a. PYTHONOPATH)" or "sites" | 16:26 |
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| afd__ | ignas: I think it's entries in sys.path | 16:27 |
| afd__ | I've tried adding the egg folder to pydev's PYTHONPATH, but didn't make any difference | 16:27 |
| ignas | i haven't seen anything related to sites in screenshots | 16:27 |
| afd__ | the idea is to get autocomplete/autoimport support | 16:27 |
| ignas | and just adding egg folder to python path will not help you | 16:27 |
| ignas | it must be a "site" | 16:27 |
| afd__ | ignas: oh, I see | 16:28 |
| ignas | as in "site.addsitedir" site | 16:28 |
| ignas | or your ".pth" file/files will be ignored even though they are in there | 16:28 |
| afd__ | my egg folder doesn't have a pth file | 16:29 |
| ignas | there are more things | 16:29 |
| ignas | maybe site.py | 16:29 |
| ignas | and stuff | 16:29 |
| afd__ | nope, nothing but eggs | 16:30 |
| ignas | hmm, interesting, then i am not sure making it a site will help you | 16:30 |
| ignas | you might want to try anyway | 16:30 |
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| ignas | are these eggs downloaded using buildout? | 16:31 |
| afd__ | ignas: yes | 16:31 |
| afd__ | a comlete zope buildout application | 16:31 |
| afd__ | complete | 16:31 |
| afd__ | zope though-buildout application instance | 16:31 |
| afd__ | through | 16:31 |
| afd__ | argh... | 16:31 |
| ignas | hmm | 16:31 |
| ignas | a problem | 16:32 |
| ignas | buildout manages eggs that are included by itself | 16:32 |
| afd__ | yeah, it adds the write paths to sys.path in the runzope/instance script | 16:32 |
| ignas | (look at bin/ for examples) | 16:32 |
| ignas | so you could in theory make the eggs/ directory a site | 16:33 |
| ignas | without breaking buildout | 16:33 |
| ignas | but still, you'd have to manage eggs yourself as buildout would not update anything in there | 16:33 |
| ignas | as egg sets for different scripts are different | 16:33 |
| ignas | and using different configuration when running the script and when developing it would be a bad idea | 16:34 |
| ignas | the only thing i might suggest is creating eclipse configuration out of the script you are using to start up your application | 16:34 |
| ignas | so you will be sure that configuration matches, and will be able to update your eclipse setup every time you run "bin/buildout -N" | 16:35 |
| afd__ | ignas: yes, that's what I did the last time. I might also add a recipe to buildout to generate that pth file from the installed eggs... what do you think? | 16:36 |
| afd__ | I'd still have to run the python modules reimport in eclipse though, so it's won't be a lot of automation... | 16:36 |
| ignas | afd__: you see - eggs available are not the same as eggs used | 16:37 |
| ignas | you might have 5 versions of some egg in your eggs/ | 16:38 |
| afd__ | you're right | 16:38 |
| ignas | so all of them will be available | 16:38 |
| ignas | but buildout will have the *right* version set | 16:38 |
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| timte | The required version of setuptools (>=0.6c7) is not available, | 17:20 |
| timte | I always get this :/ | 17:20 |
| timte | not always, but very often | 17:20 |
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| rocky | when i override the [buildout] section for a buildout is there anyway i can do "parts += anotherpart" rather than having to list all the parts again? | 18:10 |
| wiggy | no | 18:11 |
| rocky | that feature would be just dandy :) | 18:13 |
| benji | rocky: we've talked about something that you could use to the same effect (and other effects, too); the ability to reference the value you're currently redefining. | 18:16 |
| benji | so you could do "parts = $parts anotherpart" | 18:17 |
| benji | (with perhaps different syntax) | 18:17 |
| rocky | benji: oh yeah... that would definitely be more powerful than what i suggested | 18:18 |
| hazmat | and very useful | 18:29 |
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| edgordon | is there a way to tell formlib to render a field as hidden, w/out doing it in the page template? i see the 'hidden' method, but I want to do it in the python, like how i can set the displayWidth on a text widget | 20:34 |
| jsadjohnson | I like the way z3c.form handles this. But I'm no expert. | 20:38 |
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| jhauser | instead of simple calling the widget, you can call the hidden method on the widget | 21:52 |
| jhauser | edgordon: ah in python you can simply overwrite the type attribute | 21:54 |
| edgordon | yeah, i just decided to do the whole thing as a custom widget anyways. the hidden thing was just one part of what I am trying to do | 21:55 |
| edgordon | so, I am good now. Thanks though | 21:55 |
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| jhauser | does the generated class name make problems with styling? | 21:56 |
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| jhauser | id="form.fieldname", is the referencabel from css? | 21:57 |
| jhauser | I think "." are not allowed in css-identifiers | 21:57 |
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| edgordon | i have had some problems w/ that, in css and js | 22:01 |
| edgordon | I have wondered if using periods in a lot of the names is more trouble than it is worth | 22:03 |
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