| spython | tim_: now i get a "svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/'" | 00:02 |
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| tim_ | spython: did you read this? http://www.zope.org/DevHome/Subversion/ZopeSVNFAQ | 00:04 |
| spython | do, wrote http instead of svn, my bad | 00:04 |
| spython | *doh | 00:05 |
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| jsadjohnson | Anyone familiar with: zope.app.keyreference.interfaces.NotYet | 04:02 |
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| edgordon | what is the best way to store references to other objects as an object attribute? | 10:15 |
| edgordon | IntId? | 10:15 |
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| ignas | hi | 12:15 |
| ignas | anyone noticed the breakage in zope.i18nmessageid? | 12:16 |
| ignas | or is it not broken? ;) | 12:17 |
| ignas | ok, now that i looked at it closer it seems that either zope.i18nmessageid is broken because it does not have zope.i18nmessageid.ZopeMessageFactory in it | 12:18 |
| ignas | or zope.app.catalog is broken because it is expecting ZopeMessageFactory to be in there | 12:19 |
| ignas | it's the catalog, someone did something wrong when releasing 3.5.0a3 because 3.5.0a2 worked fine | 12:21 |
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| spython | in the docstring of Principal it says that Principal.groups is filled in by plugins.How do i get my own groups to this list? (I have written an authenticator plugin) | 13:59 |
| spython | all i see in request/principal/groups is ['zope.Everybody','zope.Authenticated'] and not my assigned groups 'foo.bar' | 14:00 |
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| * wiggy wonders why ${<part>:location} does not work inside the part itself | 14:51 | |
| wiggy | in buildout that is | 14:52 |
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| spython | philiKON: in your worldcookery app, I'm trying to make the locally granted roles available in Principal.groups.. but without success :( | 15:49 |
| lisppaste6 | spython pasted "add group to principal" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/48430 | 15:50 |
| philiKON | roles != groups | 15:50 |
| spython | oh | 15:51 |
| spython | so worldcookery.Member is a role, not a group | 15:51 |
| philiKON | yes | 15:52 |
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| edgordon | what is the best way to get the current authenticated user? is there a way to do it w/out the request? | 17:43 |
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| philiKON | edgordon: no | 17:48 |
| edgordon | so, only in request. | 17:48 |
| philiKON | (yes there is, but you shouldn't really use that) | 17:48 |
| philiKON | request.principal | 17:48 |
| edgordon | request.principal is the way you shouldn't use? | 17:48 |
| philiKON | no, that's the way you *should* use | 17:49 |
| philiKON | there's a way to get to the request that's a hack | 17:49 |
| edgordon | yeah, thats fine. i can make it work | 17:49 |
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| ThomasKarlRichte | hi | 17:59 |
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| ignas | hi | 18:38 |
| ignas | anyone who knows Zope3 egg release rules? | 18:38 |
| ignas | the question is: | 18:39 |
| ignas | zope.i18nmessageid 3.4 was released without ZopeMessageFactory in it | 18:39 |
| ignas | it got moved into the package later it 3.4.2 | 18:40 |
| ignas | now zope.app.catalog 3.5.0a3 started depending on the factory being in there | 18:40 |
| ignas | which broke some things for me as i was depending on zope.i18nmessage id 3.4 | 18:40 |
| ignas | what should be the proper procedure - zope.app.catalog continuing to depend on the factory being in zope.app.i18n | 18:41 |
| ignas | or zope.app.catalog stating >=3.4.2 in it's dependencies | 18:41 |
| ignas | or should i fix it on my end, and depend on the requred version of zope.i18nmessageid in my project? | 18:42 |
| ignas | J1m? | 18:42 |
| philiKON | zopemessagefactory should never have moved there | 18:50 |
| philiKON | it canb e created easily: | 18:50 |
| philiKON | from zope.i18nmessageid import MessageFactory | 18:50 |
| philiKON | ZopeMessageFactory = MessageFactory('zope') | 18:50 |
| philiKON | this is what zope.app.catalog should be doing | 18:50 |
| philiKON | and it's what i suggest happens | 18:50 |
| philiKON | this is actually what i proposed ages ago. | 18:51 |
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| ignas | philiKON, i see, because someone just changed the code and released (from my perspective) a broken egg :/ | 18:51 |
| philiKON | yup. it shoudl at least depend on zope.i18nmessageid>=3.4.2 then | 18:52 |
| philiKON | ignas: feel free to fix zope.app.catalog | 18:52 |
| philiKON | you can simply release another alpha there | 18:52 |
| ignas | i see | 18:52 |
| ignas | thanks | 18:53 |
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| philiKON | btw | 18:53 |
| philiKON | we should really move away from central translations anyway | 18:53 |
| philiKON | each egg should carry the translations that it needs | 18:53 |
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| ignas | philiKON, i know, been doing it with schooltool for 2 months | 19:02 |
| ignas | philiKON, most packages should have their own generation utilities too | 19:02 |
| ignas | while it's not too late ... | 19:02 |
| philiKON | yup | 19:02 |
| philiKON | it's never too late :) | 19:03 |
| ignas | because adding 1 when you want to evolve something is not a good idea | 19:03 |
| ignas | there is no "None -> 0" step | 19:03 |
| philiKON | i know | 19:03 |
| ignas | you can make it installable utility, but it becomes very complicated | 19:03 |
| philiKON | to be honest, i think that behaviour should be fixed... | 19:03 |
| ignas | well - how do you tell if it's "no thing installed -> thing installed" and "old version of it installed -> new version" | 19:04 |
| ignas | if both start with "no utility present" | 19:04 |
| philiKON | generation 0 could implicitly be "no utility present | 19:05 |
| philiKON | " | 19:05 |
| ignas | so if you install some egg that has evolution scripts, all of the scripts get executed the first time you include it's zcml? | 19:07 |
| ignas | and what if it is an installable utility? | 19:07 |
| philiKON | hmmm | 19:07 |
| philiKON | i suppose not | 19:07 |
| philiKON | stoopid generations...:) | 19:08 |
| ignas | i know, been a headache since i got the idea of separating schooltool into separate packages | 19:08 |
| ignas | i kind of want them to be "date" not number based sometimes | 19:08 |
| ignas | because having no control over the order of their execution | 19:09 |
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| ignas | if they are in separate packages | 19:09 |
| ignas | requires a lot of planning on data structure level, if you want it to work | 19:09 |
| ignas | when evolution scripts of 3 of your packages will get executed alphabetically :D | 19:10 |
| ignas | cando, schooltool, zope ;) | 19:10 |
| ignas | so all the schooltool evolution scripts MUST work before Zope3 has it's chance to fix things | 19:11 |
| ignas | now imagine the mess with 20+ generation utilites ... | 19:15 |
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