| philiKON | weird. sure it's an OOBTree? | 00:00 |
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| philiKON | and is the lcoal utility a persistent object? | 00:00 |
| spython | from BTrees.OOBTree import OOBTree ... and then in my local util: emails = OOBTree() | 00:01 |
| spython | yes, it inherits from Persistent | 00:01 |
| philiKON | self.emails = OOBTree, right? | 00:01 |
| spython | hmm, no.. i do this outside a def .. | 00:02 |
| spython | wait | 00:03 |
| philiKON | outside? | 00:04 |
| philiKON | that's bad | 00:04 |
| philiKON | that means it's a class attribute | 00:04 |
| philiKON | not an instance attr | 00:04 |
| philiKON | class attributes aren't pickled | 00:04 |
| lisppaste6 | spython pasted "weird" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/48858 | 00:04 |
| philiKON | worse, they're shared among *all* instances | 00:04 |
| philiKON | yeah | 00:04 |
| philiKON | read up on class attributes vs. instance attributes in python, then look at that code again and you'll notice what's wrong :) | 00:05 |
| spython | oh :) | 00:05 |
| spython | right | 00:05 |
| spython | will do, thanks a lot | 00:05 |
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| CSWookie | philiKON: Is there a 3rd ed of your book planned? | 00:11 |
| philiKON | yup | 00:11 |
| spython | i think i was "blinded" by the recipe class, where you have name=u'' ingredients=[] ... etc and not self.name self.ingredients | 00:11 |
| philiKON | spython: yeah, i agree i set a bad example there | 00:12 |
| philiKON | spython: this will be fixed | 00:12 |
| spython | great :) | 00:12 |
| philiKON | CSWookie: but it's pretty much just a reprint of the 2nd ed., with some errata and typos fixed | 00:12 |
| philiKON | CSWookie: so what i'm realy doing is planning a 4th edition :) | 00:12 |
| CSWookie | philiKON: Do you hve a timeline on that one? | 00:13 |
| CSWookie | philiKON: Either :-) | 00:13 |
| CSWookie | It's sort of the, "Oh, you're going to work here? Read this, then!" | 00:13 |
| philiKON | well, i think they'll bring out the third ed. when they run out of 2nd ed. copies | 00:14 |
| philiKON | which is soonish | 00:14 |
| philiKON | by the end of the year | 00:14 |
| philiKON | but the 3rd and 2nd are so similar | 00:14 |
| philiKON | it doesn't really make much of a difference | 00:14 |
| philiKON | except that the 3rd won't be hardcover :) | 00:14 |
| spython | so 4th will focus more on new ways of developing with Zope? with zopeproject, grok, etc.. | 00:14 |
| philiKON | so buy now if you want a hardcover | 00:14 |
| philiKON | spython: exactly | 00:15 |
| philiKON | spython: there was just no time to do that for the 3rd | 00:15 |
| spython | great, I'm waiting for 4th ed then :) | 00:15 |
| spython | got 2nd here | 00:15 |
| philiKON | yeah. if you have the 2nd, don't bother getting the 3rd :) | 00:15 |
| philiKON | (unless you want a travel-friendly version) | 00:15 |
| CSWookie | philiKON: I'd like to see a section on what one has to do with an adapter to make it the equivalent of a browser:page and similar things. | 00:16 |
| CSWookie | Although a section on grok sounds nifty as well | 00:16 |
| philiKON | um, chapter 7 explains how browser pages are just multi adapters | 00:17 |
| spython | why not skip the version with just errata/typo fixes? Seems like a too "minor" one for a major version :) | 00:17 |
| philiKON | spython: not my decision :) | 00:17 |
| spython | ah | 00:17 |
| philiKON | spython: the publisher rang and said they were running out of copies | 00:17 |
| philiKON | spython: so i said, let's do a reprint with errata fixes | 00:17 |
| philiKON | spython: and they sad, sure, but let's call it 3rd ed. for marketing reasons :) | 00:18 |
| spython | cool, so it's selling pretty good? | 00:18 |
| philiKON | well... | 00:18 |
| philiKON | i suppose it's selling like they expected | 00:18 |
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| philiKON | anyway, i wish i could've done the whole egg story sooner, but on the other hand, there are fundamental things we haven't worked out yet | 00:19 |
| philiKON | so i'm glad i haven't wasted paper on it | 00:19 |
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| amaron | anyone used z3c.sqlalchemy? | 01:03 |
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| wiggy | I'm using z3c.zalchemy | 01:12 |
| amaron | zalchemy? | 01:15 |
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| amaron | wiggy: is it the same as sqlalchemy? | 01:15 |
| wiggy | no | 01:15 |
| amaron | what is the difference? | 01:16 |
| wiggy | I don't remember I'm afraid | 01:16 |
| amaron | :) | 01:17 |
| amaron | as i can see, z3c.sqlalchemy has version 1.x | 01:17 |
| amaron | and zalchemy 0.2 | 01:17 |
| amaron | is it stable? | 01:18 |
| amaron | for production? | 01:18 |
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| wiggy | works great for me | 01:20 |
| amaron | any intro for using it? | 01:21 |
| amaron | ah, here i see some demos | 01:22 |
| amaron | i hope it will be enough | 01:22 |
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| tjs | srichter: G'day | 02:08 |
| tjs | Getting distribution for 'z3c.template'. | 02:08 |
| tjs | Error: Download error: unknown url type: svn | 02:09 |
| tjs | I found a transcript from this channel 2007-05-22 where you noticed this, was wondering if there is a fix? | 02:09 |
| tjs | I'm trying to convert our app to use zopeproject | 02:09 |
| tjs | and z3c.template is a dep | 02:09 |
| tjs | anyone know what the status of this is? | 02:31 |
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| tjs | http://zope3.pov.lt/irclogs/%23zope3-dev.2007-05-22.log.html#t2007-05-22T16:52:27 | 02:32 |
| tjs | is the previous discussion | 02:32 |
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| srichter | tjs: I think it is the home page which links to SVN | 03:49 |
| srichter | tjs: should still work | 03:49 |
| tjs | its not working for me, buildout just fails with that error | 03:54 |
| srichter | mmh | 03:54 |
| tjs | is there a workaround? | 03:54 |
| tjs | can I add some page to my own dependency_links? | 03:55 |
| srichter | yes | 03:55 |
| tjs | you wouldnt happen to know what url that would be? | 03:56 |
| tjs | do you have eggs someplace? | 03:56 |
| srichter | no | 03:57 |
| srichter | hold on, I'll make a new release | 03:57 |
| tjs | cheers | 03:57 |
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| srichter | tjs: okay, 1.1.0 is out | 04:09 |
| tjs | thanks mate, you rock | 04:09 |
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| romanofski | moin :) | 09:31 |
| tjs | hey | 09:33 |
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| goschtl | how can i install a custom buildout receipe in my buildout. I try to use hexagonit.recipe.download. This is my section and the traceback: http://paste.plone.org/17240 | 14:58 |
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| napoliKON | goschtl: you misspelled recipe | 15:43 |
| goschtl | napoliKON: yes i found it stupid error. thx | 15:44 |
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| brandon_rhodes | Drat. | 18:20 |
| brandon_rhodes | I thought I'd seen zalchemy commits for SQLAlchemy 0.4. | 18:20 |
| brandon_rhodes | But now I can't find them. | 18:20 |
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