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| baijum | Hi projekt01 | 14:24 | 
| projekt01 | baijum, hi | 14:25 | 
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| elro | What's the current story about getting zope committer privileges? foundation.zope.org and www.zope.org seem to be saying different things (and have different agreements) | 15:04 | 
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| CrippsFX | how much has the authentication system changed between Zope 2.8 and Zope 3.3 ? | 15:30 | 
| philiKON | um, zope 3 != zope 2 | 15:32 | 
| philiKON | i suggest getting my book on zope 3 in any case | 15:32 | 
| zagy | philiKON's always doing a good job in advertising his book *G | 15:33 | 
| CrippsFX | philiKON: yeah, well, I'm looking at an LDAPMultiAdapter package that looks like it was written for zope 2.8, I'm wondering how much work it would require to bring it up to speed with Zope 3 | 15:33 | 
| philiKON | well, lemme put it this way: i didn't write it so that i can repeat it over and over again on irc | 15:33 | 
| philiKON | CrippsFX: how about using ldappas? | 15:33 | 
| zagy | philiKON: sure :) | 15:33 | 
| philiKON | it's a dedicated zope 3 solution | 15:33 | 
| zagy | philiKON: I don't mind actually | 15:33 | 
| CrippsFX | philiKON: does it support grabbing ActiveDirectory permissions? | 15:34 | 
| philiKON | no idea | 15:34 | 
| CrippsFX | I don't mind being told about the book either ... I'd rather be told a chapter for the stuff I ask that's in the book ... I'm after reading through the thing twice ;) | 15:34 | 
| CrippsFX | philiKON: okay. I'll take a look at it and see how it fares ... else I guess I'll have to convert LDAPMultiAdapter to a Zope 3 package. | 15:35 | 
| philiKON | chapter 22 is the one about authentication | 15:38 | 
| philiKON | it actually discusses how to write a custom authenticator | 15:39 | 
| CrippsFX | philiKON: ahh ... interesting ... there is one thing in ldappas that I overlooked when writing my own ldap PAU ... that is creating a principal form a PrincipalInfo object | 15:39 | 
| CrippsFX | yeah, I went through that all months ago ... right now I'm looking for building principals on authentication (which should be trivial) and then the difficult part: grabbing permissions from Active Directory to map to my application's permissions. | 15:40 | 
| CrippsFX | philiKON: so, I've exhausted chapter 22 for the information I can use. Although, it was quite helpful, thank you. | 15:40 | 
| CrippsFX | right now I'm working beyond the scope of the WC book ;) | 15:41 | 
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| projekt01 | philiKON, what is the state about spliting packages into zope and zope.app? | 15:57 | 
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| Subdino | hi. can anyone explain me the locking scheme used in ZEO's ClientStorage tpc_begin ? | 16:58 | 
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| Subdino | ie, why not do a plain lock wait instead of lock - loop until transaction becomes None - wait for notify - lock - unlock - set transaction to something | 16:59 | 
| Subdino | replacing transaction value check by a plain lock wait and replacing "transaction = None" by a lock release looks it would achieve the same thing, to me | 17:00 | 
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| hazmat | is there any status update on the state of the zope3 common criteria security certification | 17:29 | 
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| Subdino | to me it looks like that variable is somehow a lock replacement... and that taking the ock before setting the variable and releasing after setting the variable to none would achieve just the same thing | 17:40 | 
| Subdino | oops | 17:40 | 
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| hazmat | philiKON_, zopeproject is really nice, one request, is to allow for multi package setups as a config option.. ie instead of develop = . to have develop = src/pkg so additional packages can be added | 20:06 | 
| philiKON_ | you mean multi-egg setups | 20:06 | 
| philiKON_ | because you already can do multiple packages | 20:06 | 
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| philiKON_ | but they become part of the same egg | 20:06 | 
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| hazmat | philiKON_, yeah.. i meant multi egg setups | 20:52 | 
| hazmat | my typical dev cycle starts off with new component eggs as part of a project in dev mode, and then after developed reintegrate them as a release egg | 20:54 | 
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| djk001 | Hello. I have a question. I am going through the todo tutorial on world cookery and I am getting a BasicAdder failure. Searching for it in the API it seems it was removed. Is this true? | 21:47 | 
| mgedmin | where was it? | 21:50 | 
| djk001 | you mean the package it was in? | 21:50 | 
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| djk001 | from zope.app.container.browser.adding import BasicAdding | 21:51 | 
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| djk001 | nobody has any thoughts? BasicAdding doesn't seem to be in the adding.py file inclded with the 3.3.1 distribution? Is this tutorial out of date? | 22:21 | 
| mgedmin | looks like | 22:27 | 
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| mgedmin | I see a regular Adding in zope.app.container.browser.adding, but I don't remember BasicAdding | 22:28 | 
| mgedmin | your best bet is to ask philiKON_ | 22:28 | 
| mgedmin | he's responsible for world cookery | 22:28 | 
| philiKON_ | worldcookery's todo tutorial is outdated | 22:28 | 
| djk001 | OK | 22:30 | 
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