IRC log of #zope3-dev for Saturday, 2007-11-24

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davidstrykeri'm trying to start a zope project with zopeproject , when i try to run the server i get this error: http://davidstryker.pastey.net/7790701:41
philiKONthis is due to your using python 2.501:42
philiKONfirst of all, it seems you're using the system python01:42
philiKONi.e. the python that came with macos01:43
philiKONbad idea01:43
philiKONvery bad idea01:43
philiKONnot really your fault01:43
philiKONleopard comes with a python full of junk01:43
philiKONnobody should ever use it IMO01:43
philiKONespecially since the junk that it comes with are applications needed for certain services in macosx01:43
philiKONso the danger ofmessing things up is there01:43
philiKONanyway01:43
davidstrykerbut about the 2.5 issue ... when i've watched the progress of the zope install i've seen that it found the eggs for python 2.501:44
philiKONit seems you're getting eggs that aren't yet python 2.5 ready01:44
philiKONthat doesn't make any sense01:44
davidstrykerso i thought that this would have not been an issue still with only working ok on 2.4.401:44
philiKONit can install any egg it wants, if the *code* in the egg isn't python 2.5-compatible, it'll break01:45
davidstrykerit appeared as if the install went ok with having pyton 2.5 and not asking for 2.401:45
philiKONsure01:45
philiKONyou can always install buggy software01:45
philiKONthe question is whether you can *run* it01:45
philiKONpython 2.5 will happily take a py25-incompatible piece of software, available as a tarballl, and install it as a python25-egg01:46
philiKONthat doesn't mean the software inside the egg is magically compatible with python 2.5 then01:46
philiKONanyhoo, i suggest compiling your own python01:48
davidstrykerok this has been my fault because i knew that zope3 runs on 2.4 but i;ve installed leopard and it comes with 2.5 of course and i've never tried zopeprojekt and thought to check out if it works with 2.5 and now i know it doesn't thou it does not state on your blog post that it still requires 2.4 and not 2.501:48
davidstrykeri will i'll get 2.401:48
philiKONyes01:49
philiKONbut compile it yourself01:49
philiKONfight the temptation of installing a binary version01:49
philiKONsee http://www.lovelysystems.com/batlogg/2007/11/16/getting-the-lovely-zope-environment-python-postgresql-mysql-working-on-leopard/01:49
philiKON(leopard has a few bugs that make it a bit harder to compile python than it was on tiger)01:49
philiKONperhaps they've been fixed in 10.5.1, not sure01:50
davidstrykeri'll even compile it myself thou i had no issue in tiger with the binary of 2.4.4 if i'm not mistaken but it's still a better practice to go ahead and compile it just stated that i didn't have any issues even running the binary package of 2.401:50
davidstrykerand zope with that install01:50
davidstrykerfunny i actually ran across that post today, but didn't pay that much attention to it :) i'll go and check it out again tomorrow, thanks for the answers01:52
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junkafarian_hey, does anyone know why im getting:17:37
junkafarian_Failure: twisted.internet.defer.TimeoutError:17:37
junkafarian_im trying to access the ftp server remotely17:43
junkafarian_it connects fine locall17:43
junkafarian_s/y17:43
junkafarian_just not remotely17:43
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ChrisWhey all... is repoze the only thing that uses zope.server.http.wsgihtpserver.WSGIHTTPServer?19:43
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