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| * baijum going to give a talk about Zope at FOSS.IN/2007 :) http://foss.in/2007/schedules/ | 11:43 | |
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| huajie | baijum: are your slides available somewhere ? | 12:11 | 
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| baijum | huajie, I have submitted one to FOSS.IN team..but I am making small modification now, will be published after my talk | 12:12 | 
| huajie | baijum: ok, good luck ! | 12:14 | 
| baijum | huajie, thanks ! | 12:14 | 
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| pyqwer | Hi, does someone know if there's an IOBTree-based container available? | 15:14 | 
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| philiKON | pyqwer: containers always have unicode keys | 15:21 | 
| philiKON | if you want something else, it's not an IContainer | 15:21 | 
| pyqwer | Ah, I see. The reason why I'd like to use IOBtrees is the .maxKey() function, which seems not to be available for OOBTree. | 15:22 | 
| philiKON | right | 15:22 | 
| philiKON | um, wait | 15:22 | 
| philiKON | actually, i use OOBTree's maxKey method | 15:22 | 
| philiKON | i think all btrees have this | 15:22 | 
| pyqwer | Hmmm, I'll try that out... | 15:22 | 
| ccomb | philiKON: what should I do to have the new zope.fr.po file commited before RC? | 15:24 | 
| philiKON | become a contributor :)_ | 15:24 | 
| ccomb | what are the steps? | 15:24 | 
| pyqwer | philiKON: Hmmm, an "isinstance(mycontainer, BTreeContainer)" is "True", but mycontainer.maxKeys gives me an AttributeError... | 15:25 | 
| philiKON | the container itself isn't a btree | 15:25 | 
| philiKON | you'll have to get to the actual btree | 15:25 | 
| philiKON | it's something like _Sample_container_data or whatever | 15:25 | 
| baijum | ccomb, send contributor agreement to Jim | 15:25 | 
| philiKON | ccomb: fill out http://www.zope.org/DevHome/CVS/Contributor.pdf and fax or email a signed copy to ZC | 15:26 | 
| ccomb | OK, I will do that, but I want to be sure the po file will be commited for the RC. | 15:27 | 
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| pyqwer | philiKON: Ah, ok, that's the trick: "mycontainer._SampleContainer__data.maxKey". Thanks! | 15:28 | 
| philiKON | yup | 15:29 | 
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| harobed | are there ContainerTraverser which conduct like python route module ? | 15:57 | 
| harobed | what I want is ContainerTraverser configurable with regex... | 15:58 | 
| harobed | I know I can build it myself but I would like know if there already exist | 15:58 | 
| harobed | s/route/routes/ | 16:00 | 
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| ccomb | harobed: it seems there is a z3c.traverser but I don't know what it does. http://pypi.python.org/pypi?%3Aaction=search&term=traverser | 16:01 | 
| harobed | Traverser Plugins is may what I need | 16:02 | 
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| goschtl | harobed: there is a package at zope.svn called megrok.trails. OK it´s for grok but maybe this gives you an impression what to do. | 16:09 | 
| harobed | goschtl: thanks | 16:09 | 
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| edgordon | has anyone got the zmi's 'server control' panel to work with paste to restart the server? | 16:23 | 
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| ignas | edgordon: it should not work iirc | 16:28 | 
| ignas | point being that you can run wsgi server under apache for example | 16:28 | 
| ignas | how do you imagine "restarting" the Zope3 server then? | 16:28 | 
| ignas | zope3 is a wsgi application, thus from what i know it has limmited if any control on the wsgi server | 16:29 | 
| edgordon | i am not super familiar w/ wsgi. i just used the zopeproject setup | 16:30 | 
| ignas | well - under wsgi Zope is acting as an application, leaving the server part to wsgi | 16:30 | 
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| ignas | so that you could use different servers without changing the application | 16:32 | 
| ccomb | so there is no more IServerControl utility available? (I get a lookup error when trying to access ++etc++process/servercontrol.html | 16:33 | 
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| edgordon | yeah, that is what i was getting | 16:40 | 
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| ignas | you can always try writing your own IServerControl utility for the server type that you are using ;) | 16:43 | 
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| harobed | are there zopeproject usage to get something like zope3 without zodb ? | 22:38 | 
| harobed | I would like ZCA, traverse mechanism , view, viewlet... | 22:39 | 
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| replicant | harobed, its possible | 23:02 | 
| replicant | harobed, it just takes a little work, you need to replace the root publication and load up the zcml by hand instead of letting zconfig do it | 23:02 | 
| replicant | is there anyway to tell setuptools to package a whole directory | 23:03 | 
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| hazmat | er. package_data i mean | 23:05 | 
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| hazmat | i see syntaxes for foobar/*, but that doesn't help if your nested, i've only seen the syntax of spelling out every nested directory by hand... is there a way to just point at the top level directory and and tell setuptools to add the whole thing recursively as package_data | 23:07 | 
| harobed | If I drop zodb, I can use zcml machinery ? | 23:08 | 
| harobed | s/can/can't | 23:08 | 
| hazmat | yes | 23:15 | 
| hazmat | you can use zcml and drop zodb | 23:15 | 
| hazmat | you'll still need zodb eggs | 23:15 | 
| hazmat | but you won't have to actually use them | 23:15 | 
| hazmat | to store anything | 23:15 | 
| harobed | thanks for this informations | 23:16 | 
| hazmat | np | 23:16 | 
| harobed | in apidoc, how can I know what are parameters of constructor | 23:23 | 
| hazmat | aha.. just use include_package_data instead of trying to specify it manually and it loads up everything by default | 23:23 | 
| harobed | for instance, I've http://apidoc.zope.org/++apidoc++/Code/zope/publisher/browser/TestRequest/index.html how can I see what are parameter of the constructor ? | 23:24 | 
| harobed | hazmat: where is include_package_data ? | 23:24 | 
| hazmat | harobed, sorry i was just answering my own question from above.. not the apidoc question | 23:25 | 
| harobed | hazmat: I know | 23:25 | 
| harobed | I found it "include_package_data" at setup.py file | 23:26 | 
| hazmat | harobed, setup.py | 23:26 | 
| hazmat | yup | 23:26 | 
| harobed | it is on True | 23:26 | 
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| ccomb | harobed the constructor is not available in the apidoc. I'm not sure what is a reason for that, but this could be an improvement for the apidoc | 23:29 | 
| harobed | yes, sure | 23:30 | 
| hazmat | partly i think the reasoning is that the constructor is an implementation detail not nesc. part of the interface | 23:31 | 
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