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| romanofski | moin :) | 09:29 | 
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| pyqwer | Hi, I have container with an index.html-page, which is correctly displayed. However, when calling the URL without index.html, there are permission problems. Any clues why? | 11:00 | 
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| ignas | zp | 12:54 | 
| ignas | sorry, a typo | 12:54 | 
| ignas | hi ;) | 12:54 | 
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| harobed | I don't understand why when I use pdb in zope3 (instance in zopeproject) I've always source module path like this : | 16:02 | 
| harobed | --Call-- | 16:02 | 
| harobed | > /home/stephane/myenv/build-eggs/tmpnw0f5Q/zope.publisher-3.5.0a1.dev_r78838-py2.4.egg/zope/publisher/publish.py(116)publish() | 16:02 | 
| harobed | (Pdb) l | 16:02 | 
| mgedmin | wheee, egg fun | 16:02 | 
| harobed | why I've "tmpnw0f5Q" ? | 16:02 | 
| benji | harobed: setuptools hates you | 16:02 | 
| mgedmin | probably because setuptools hates everyone | 16:02 | 
| benji | delete all your .pyc files and let them get rebuilt with correct paths | 16:03 | 
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| mgedmin | the idea to hardcode the original location of the .py file in the .pyc was brain-dead, too | 16:03 | 
| benji | mgedmin: yeah, the hate is omnidirectional | 16:03 | 
| harobed | benji: ok, I'll try it | 16:03 | 
| harobed | benji: are you some documentation (url) about this issue ? | 16:03 | 
| benji | yes, I am documentation about this issue ;) | 16:04 | 
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| benji | (kidding asside, no I haven't seen it on the web anywhere) | 16:04 | 
| harobed | ;) have you ... | 16:04 | 
| * benji googles | 16:04 | |
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| benji | http://www.z3lab.org/sections/blogs/philipp-weitershausen/2007_07_30_pdb-ing-to-eggs | 16:05 | 
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| srichter | benji: right, Jim told me he always removed all pyc files in his egg cache dir | 16:09 | 
| benji | yep | 16:09 | 
| srichter | he said that building the PYC files at one palces and then moving it to another might be unnecessary | 16:10 | 
| srichter | so it could be fixed within buildout | 16:10 | 
| benji | I /think/ there's a switch to compileall that would make setuptools behave correctly; haven't looked deeply into it though | 16:10 | 
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| pyqwer | Can someone please enlighten me with Apache rewrites? I have the problem that I can access "http://mysite/" but no "http://mysite". | 16:13 | 
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| mgedmin | ah, those are fun | 16:17 | 
| mgedmin | pastebin them for us | 16:17 | 
| pyqwer | mgedmin: Sorry - do you address me or benji? | 16:18 | 
| mgedmin | pyqwer: you | 16:18 | 
| pyqwer | RewriteRule ^/fym/(.*) http://127.0.0.1:9083/FYMSite/++vh++http:%{SERVER_NAME}:80/fym/++/$1 [P,L] | 16:19 | 
| pyqwer | That's all I have. | 16:19 | 
| pyqwer | If I do it like "RewriteRule ^/fym(.*)", I can access http://myhost/fym but all relative links are wrong then. | 16:19 | 
| mgedmin | well then, you're not rewriting ^/fym$ | 16:22 | 
| mgedmin | I use RewriteRule ^/fym(/(.*))$ http://127.0.0.1:9083/FYMSite/++vh++http:%{SERVER_NAME}:80/fym/++$1 [P,L] | 16:22 | 
| mgedmin | sorry | 16:22 | 
| mgedmin | I use RewriteRule ^/fym(/.*)?$ http://127.0.0.1:9083/FYMSite/++vh++http:%{SERVER_NAME}:80/fym/++$1 [P,L] | 16:23 | 
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| * pyqwer trying out... | 16:23 | |
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| pyqwer | mgedmin: Interesting, it works now. | 16:24 | 
| mgedmin | well, it would, if I gave you the correct solution, wouldn't it now? | 16:25 | 
| pyqwer | mgedmin: Yes, it works, many thanks, but I don't really understand why the '/' is in the parantheses and why there is a "$" at the end. | 16:26 | 
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| pyqwer | Ah, I ment, the '?'. | 16:26 | 
| mgedmin | paranoia, perhaps -- $ at the end ensures that URLs like /fymwhatever aren't rewritten | 16:26 | 
| mgedmin | ( and )? ensure that '/fym' is rewritten | 16:26 | 
| mgedmin | regexp magic | 16:27 | 
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| pyqwer | mgedmin: I see, well, thanks for that! | 16:28 | 
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| harobed | benji: thanks for your links | 16:33 | 
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| benji | glad to help | 16:34 | 
| harobed | ok, I see python 2.5 haven't this issue (about egg ziped) | 16:36 | 
| harobed | but, I see in my build-eggs, I haven't egg zipped | 16:37 | 
| harobed | ok, it's work | 16:42 | 
| harobed | another question :) I try to use pycallgraph in zope from zopeproject | 16:43 | 
| harobed | I've insered pycallgraph.start_trace() in function WSGIPublisherApplication.__call__ in zope.app.wsgi-3.4.0-py2.4.egg/zope/app/wsgi/__init__.py | 16:44 | 
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| harobed | but when python call this line "request = publish(request, handle_errors=handle_errors)" it do nothing | 16:44 | 
| harobed | process wait, wait.... | 16:44 | 
| harobed | I don't understand why I can't call this function with pycallgraph.start_trace context | 16:45 | 
| benji | when you say "it do nothing", do you mean it returns immediately, it returns after some time but produces no output, or it appears to hang? | 16:46 | 
| harobed | it never return | 16:47 | 
| harobed | when I test it with pdb, when I on request = publish(request, handle_errors=handle_errors) and I do next | 16:47 | 
| benji | I suspect the overhead of the trace function is making the function call take a long time, so long that it appears to hang | 16:47 | 
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| harobed | it never return | 16:47 | 
| harobed | and cpu is on 100% usage | 16:48 | 
| benji | right | 16:48 | 
| benji | it will eventually return; might not be in our lifetimes, though ;) | 16:48 | 
| harobed | I've wait ten minutes and more | 16:48 | 
| benji | right, it may take a very, very long time | 16:49 | 
| harobed | freaky | 16:50 | 
| benji | not really; any time you instrument a system at the function call level, you're going to introduce some overhead; that overhead is killing you | 16:51 | 
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| harobed | benji: I've also same issue when I do "step" in pdb | 17:08 | 
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| benji | with the call graph code enabled, or disabled? | 17:11 | 
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| harobed | benji: with graph code enabled | 17:16 | 
| benji | sounds like the call graph code is incompatible with pdb (not surprising, as they likely use the same mechanism to do their work) | 17:17 | 
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| harobed | exactly | 17:20 | 
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| nouri | srichter: I'm registering a FieldValidator for my form that subclasses from SimpleFieldValidator, because I want to validate against the schema fields. But apparently I'm missing something; I'm never getting as far as FieldWidgets.extract, so the validators are not looked up. (I'm pretty much following the form.txt example.) | 18:42 | 
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| ccomb | I have a working buildout env created with zopeproject/grokproject, and I'm just trying to add z3c.form to this buildout. What are the simple steps to do that? | 18:50 | 
| ccomb | 1) add z3c.form to the buildout.cfg in the eggs | 18:50 | 
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| nouri | ccomb: That's it | 18:51 | 
| mgedmin | is it? | 18:52 | 
| ccomb | 2) run the buildout again to retrieve and install it | 18:52 | 
| nouri | It isn't? | 18:52 | 
| mgedmin | I thought it was adding z3c.form into setup.py of your package | 18:52 | 
| mgedmin | but maybe both work? | 18:52 | 
| benji | um, shouldn't you instaead add it to the required packages in your setup.py? | 18:52 | 
| philiKON | if your code imports z3c.form, then it's a hard dependency of that package | 18:53 | 
| nouri | He asked to add it to his buildout, okay? :) | 18:53 | 
| * mgedmin means same thing, only benji said it better | 18:53 | |
| philiKON | hence it belongs into install_requires | 18:53 | 
| philiKON | in setup.py | 18:53 | 
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| nouri | While we're at this topic; can I add an egg without pulling in its dependencies, maybe with zc.recipe.egg:custom? | 18:54 | 
| mgedmin | why would you want to? | 18:55 | 
| nouri | Because I'm using Zope 2 | 18:55 | 
| philiKON | right :) | 18:55 | 
| mgedmin | ah, the fun problem: how do you mix old-style and new-style zope mixes | 18:55 | 
| nouri | Exactly | 18:55 | 
| * mgedmin is staying away from that one | 18:55 | |
| philiKON | well, you could "simulate" the zope.* eggs | 18:56 | 
| philiKON | using development eggs | 18:56 | 
| nouri | Hmm | 18:56 | 
| philiKON | just create the appropriate egg-info dirs | 18:56 | 
| nouri | I think I want to equivalent of easy_install --no-deps or however that's spelled | 18:56 | 
| * philiKON didn't know that existed | 18:56 | |
| mgedmin | philiKON: that sounds so trivial... | 18:57 | 
| * mgedmin has no idea how to create an egg-info dir and what's supposed to be inside | 18:57 | |
| philiKON | well... ;) | 18:57 | 
| mgedmin | debian has virtual packages where you can say "yes, I have package foo version X.Y.Z installed, thank you very much" | 18:57 | 
| mgedmin | does setuptools? | 18:57 | 
| philiKON | nope | 18:58 | 
| nouri | It doesn't, but I just had the same idea | 18:58 | 
| philiKON | well, you could do what i suggested, or you could create essentially empty eggs | 18:58 | 
| * mgedmin still thinks setuptools is reinventing Debian, badly | 18:58 | |
| philiKON | and supply them in your own download location | 18:58 | 
| nouri | mgedmin: I agree | 18:58 | 
| mgedmin | s/badly/poorly/ | 18:59 | 
| philiKON | a debian that works on all platforms mind you | 18:59 | 
| mgedmin | "that works"? | 18:59 | 
| * mgedmin is not so sure | 18:59 | |
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| ccomb | this seems similar to deb packages, it is not, you don't assemble several deb packages of different versions on the same system for different purposes | 19:00 | 
| ccomb | just like buildout is at a different level than scons | 19:01 | 
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| ccomb | After 1) and 2), I should then 3) add <include package="z3c.form" /> in zcml | 19:04 | 
| ccomb | that's all? | 19:04 | 
| philiKON | yes | 19:04 | 
| philiKON | except that 1) was wrong | 19:04 | 
| philiKON | it should be in setup.py's install_requires | 19:04 | 
| ccomb | ah | 19:05 | 
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| ccomb | but I get : ConfigurationError: ('Unknown directive', u'http://namespaces.zope.org/z3c', u'widgetTemplate') | 19:06 | 
| ccomb | I'm probably ommtting some obvious thing, but I wonder what | 19:06 | 
| philiKON | you probably need to load z3c.form's meta.zcml as well | 19:07 | 
| ccomb | ahhhhh, that's the 2nd time I do this error | 19:07 | 
| ccomb | thanks in advance I'm sure this is it | 19:07 | 
| ccomb | I will stick a big post-it on my panel | 19:08 | 
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| * ccomb should also add to his post-it to load the meta zcml BEFORE the other one... | 20:02 | |
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