IRC log of #zope3-dev for Monday, 2008-01-14

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vodhey when's the zope3 wiki coming back online?05:08
vodbeen lookin 2 get my learn on05:09
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vodhow up to date is the zope book 2.6?05:22
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mcdoncvod: incredibly old06:30
mcdoncvod: this is (only a little) more up to date: http://www.plope.com/Books/2_7Edition06:30
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agroszerhi, somebody here responsible for http://wiki.zope.org ? it seems to be down12:47
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timteDoes an event object have to provide IObjectEvent?14:59
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timteI guess no15:04
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philiKON_timte: no. only object events have to :)17:55
philiKON_timte: events have to provide no special interface at all in fact17:55
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timtephiliKON_: I'm debugging events in zope 2.9 (and therefore 3.2). For some reason my handler isn't called if my interface just extends Interface. It works when it extends IObjectEvent.17:58
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philiKON_are you in a test?17:58
philiKON_or outside the normal zope environment?17:58
timtephiliKON_: no, pdb:ing real requests from browser17:58
philiKON_how are you registering your event handler?17:58
timte<subscriber for="* p4a.subtyper.interfaces.ISubtypAddedEvent" handler=".subtyper.subtype_added" />17:59
philiKON_you're registering it wrong18:00
philiKON_you're registering with the signature of an object event handler18:00
philiKON_a handler for an event that's not an object just takees the event as an argument18:01
philiKON_hence it's also registered for just the event18:01
timteah, doh18:01
philiKON_<subscriber for="p5a.subtyper.interfaces.ISubtypeAddedEvent" ... />18:01
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* timte tests18:01
philiKON_note you'll have to adjust the handler signature too18:02
* philiKON_ recommends using @adapter anyway18:02
philiKON_because that'll allow you to easily spot problems like these18:02
philiKON_@adapter(spec, for, each, argument, below)18:02
philiKON_def foo(has, to, have, five, arguments):18:02
timteright18:03
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timtephiliKON_: but isn't an event always an object?18:05
philiKON_sure18:05
philiKON_but it's not necessarily *about* an object18:05
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timtephiliKON_: adding a marker interface to an object, should that trigger an object or non-object event?18:09
philiKON_i don't think you've understood events yet18:09
* timte thought he knew events :)18:10
philiKON_notify(event) triggers an event18:10
philiKON_event is the event object18:10
timteyes18:10
philiKON_ordinarily, this will trigger all handlers registered for a specification that's compatible to 'event'18:10
philiKON_(meaning, all handlers that are registered for one of the interfaces that event provides, or for one of the classes that event inherits from)18:11
timteyes, I know18:11
philiKON_ok18:11
philiKON_now, there's a special handler18:11
philiKON_registered for IObjectEvent18:11
philiKON_it will dispatch from (event,) to (event.object, event)18:12
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philiKON_this way, those 2-ary handlers for object events are called18:12
timtehow does zope know which to use?18:12
timtedon't answer that  :)18:12
philiKON_the dispatcher is just an ordinary handler for IObjectEvent18:13
philiKON_see zope.component.event.objectEventNotify18:13
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TheuniJ1m: Do I see it right that __len__ of ClientStorage doesn't do anything? It seems to always be 0.18:13
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timtephiliKON_: this SubtypeAddedEvent event sets self.object in its constructor, isn't it an object event then?18:15
philiKON_only if it provides IObjectEvent somehow18:16
timteok, it doesn't18:16
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timtephiliKON_: I think I need to read 16.2 once more  :)18:17
J1mTheuni, no, it tries to return the database length.18:21
J1mIt gets this from the info returned by the server.18:21
J1mThis is allowed to be somewhat out of date.18:21
TheuniHmm. Ok.18:22
* Theuni reads on18:22
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timtephiliKON_: works much better, thanks, so it wasn't a bug in zope after all  ;)18:26
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philiKON_timte: :)18:37
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TheuniJ1m: ah. I stumbled over the fact that the helper method _dostore() assumes z64 as the revid but the storage server handles this as a special case where it doesn't send out invalidations and so the _info is never updated ...19:02
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Theuni-win 219:15
Theunibrr. wrong keyboard layout. sorry19:16
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srichterJ1m: are you there?21:55
srichterJ1m: I think we are pretty much ready for Zope 3.4 final?21:56
srichterwe only need the final ZODB 3.8.0 release21:56
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J1msrichter, well, unless Theuni objects, I'd be happy to make a 3.8 final.22:08
srichterJ1m: cool22:08
J1mI really don't know what the status is. I'm just a robot. ;)22:09
srichterI just got back from Germany last week, so I am mechanically going through my to do list :-)22:10
J1m:)22:14
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