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bigkevmcdis that an advert?13:03
mweicherthaha... oops13:04
bigkevmcdnot the most subliminal approach13:04
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projekt01Everytime I do python bootstrap.py the first time I get this error:13:07
projekt01  File "bootstrap.py", line 43, in ?13:07
projekt01    PYTHONPATH=13:07
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projekt01if I do it the second time it's working13:07
projekt01any idea?13:07
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projekt01what's going on, is the error I described above a PYPI/network issue?13:22
projekt01after 10 times it works without doing something else then call the cmd again13:23
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baijumprojekt01, it looks like PyPI is down13:24
projekt01baijum, hi, yes it looks like, but that's an very ugly traceback13:24
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baijumyeah13:25
pyqwerHi, does Zope provide something like "hierarchical roles"? E.g. when one role inherits from another?13:25
baijumprojekt01, I think ppix is more reliable : http://download.zope.org/ppix/ (mirror of PyPI)13:25
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projekt01baijum, thanks13:31
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baijumnp13:32
projekt01baijum, should this work? python bootstrap.py --help13:33
projekt01argh, not even this is working if PYPI is down13:34
baijumoh..13:35
projekt01-o for offline is not working too13:35
projekt01-D for debug, same bad traceback about PYTHONPATH13:36
projekt01baijum, could this be peak.telecummunity.com which is not good enough accesible?13:42
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projekt01baijum, what does this line of code in bootstrap.py13:44
projekt01ez = {}13:44
projekt01exec urllib2.urlopen('http://peak.telecommunity.com/dist/ez_setup.py'13:44
projekt01                     ).read() in ez13:44
baijumyeah, I cann't ping that site13:44
projekt01I don't understand the line of code above, do you know what this will check for?13:45
d2mit pulls ez_setup.py sand runs it13:45
agroszerthe site is accessible with a browser13:46
bigkevmcdmaybe a Proxy in the way?13:46
agroszerping works too13:46
projekt01soemtimes it's available sometimes not13:47
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projekt01probably a DOS atack against the server, because someone whould like to show us our bad concept we use13:49
projekt01I think sometimes in the near future it will become time to think about the lot of point of failures we have in the egg/buildout concept13:52
goschtl_Hi is it possible to change the required flag for these two form_fields? form_fields = form.Fields(ISeemann).select('name','gebdat')13:52
afd_goschtl_: I think you can access the fields with self.form_fields['field_name']13:53
afd_probably you should do this in update()13:53
afd_or __init__13:53
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goschtl_afd_: this is my try: (Pdb) name = form_fields.get('name')13:54
goschtl_(Pdb) name13:54
goschtl_<zope.formlib.form.FormField instance at 0xb654e42c>13:54
goschtl_(Pdb) dir(name)13:54
goschtl_['__doc__', '__implemented__', '__init__', '__module__', '__name__', '__providedBy__', '__provides__', 'custom_widget', 'field', 'for_display', 'for_input', 'get_rendered', 'interface', 'prefix', 'render_context']13:54
goschtl_but there is no method for changing required.13:55
afd_I think it's form_fields.get('name').required13:55
afd_I think it's form_fields.get('name').field.required13:55
afd_sorry13:55
goschtl_afd_: cool you are absolutly right thanks a log  :)13:56
goschtl_lot13:56
afd_np13:56
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adphi. just downloaded and installed zope3. I don't see any pythonscript product. did they get rid of it?18:30
afd_adp: z2 development style no longer applies to z318:31
adpok.18:32
afd_see the docs and tutorials on wiki.zope.org/zope3 to get started18:32
adpok. is it possible to use zodb to store python code w/o using zope?18:32
afd_I think there's a package for that on svn.zope.org18:32
adpproblem (for me) is I was using zope as an xmlrpc service for python functions essentially with zope features of authentication and acquisition thrown in18:33
adpI'm wondering if theres a way I can build a services usinng zodb as a backend or something.18:34
adpfor storage (of python code) and clustering somehow18:34
afd_there is xmlrpc support in z318:34
adpbut you can't write python code right?18:34
afd_I think you can... using a package called RestrictedPython18:35
afd_from what I see in the README, I haven't tried it though18:35
afd_http://svn.zope.org/RestrictedPython/trunk/src/RestrictedPython/README.txt?rev=78417&view=markup18:36
afd_http://svn.zope.org/zope.app.pythonpage/18:36
pcarduneadp: you can use the zodb completely separately from the rest of zope18:36
pcarduneadp: see for example http://pypi.python.org/pypi/ZODB4/4.0a218:39
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runyaga_anyone have baiju's email?22:06
runyaga_cant find it anywhere22:06
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benjirunyaga_: he posts to zope3-dev from mbaiju@zeomega.com22:14
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runyaga_benji, thanks23:00
benjino problem23:00
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