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afd_ARiKA-2: zope 3 runs with python 2.507:36
afd_mattt_: you can use a List that will hold the objects. Alternatively, you can use an annotation that inherits PersistentMapping and place the objects there07:38
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jameshshould bugs in the transaction module be filed at https://bugs.launchpad.net/zodb still, now that it has been split into a separate package?07:49
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Theunijamesh: sure08:57
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jameshTheuni: thanks.  I ran into problems with its home-grown thread local storage code :(08:58
Theunii saw the report08:58
TheuniI'm not quite sure why it really collides though.08:58
TheuniIt doesn't give out the same thread name while threads are still alive, does it?08:58
TheuniSo it would be a problem if you leave a thread without causing a transaction to finish.08:59
jameshI have some test code that runs some transactions in short lived threads09:01
jameshand some other code that uses TLS and gets confused when the old transaction gets aborted by transaction.begin()09:02
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jameshI'll need to look into what is opening the transaction though too, yeah.09:07
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amleczkohello - i want to create buildout for zope3, what is the proper recipe for that ?10:08
amleczkoi was trying to use zope.classiczoperecipe - without any success10:09
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Theuniif you're trying to get started, you might want to take a look at 'zopeproject'10:13
amleczkoTheuni: hmm i saw it. i was thinking more about zc.recipe.zope3instance10:15
amleczkoTheuni: and zc.recipe.zope3checkout10:16
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ccombTheuni or someone, when you have time could you please have a look at bug #238579 ?10:45
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ccombI'm surprised it hasn't been discovered before10:46
ccombhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/zope3/+bug/23857910:46
ccombI'm not sure about the fix10:46
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amleczkoi'm still searching for zope3 buildout recipe - zc.recipe.zope3checkout works fine but i prefer installing zope from tgz11:14
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ccombamleczko have you tried zopeproject ?11:16
amleczkoccomb: yes - but i was search something similar to zc.recipe.zope3checkout but with tgz11:17
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seletzhi guys17:06
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seletzcould it be that zc.buildout 1.0.5 is broken?17:07
benjicould it be that you will tell us why you suspect that?  ;)17:07
seletzah17:08
seletzheh17:08
seletzsure17:08
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seletzIt barfs at me at line 844, buildout.py, AttributeError: butildout has no attribute _allow_host17:08
seletzI even have a patch17:08
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seletzalthough I don't know if its valid, though17:09
seletzhmm, tarek is not here17:09
seletzCould be tarek's allow_host patch, could it?17:10
benjisounds like ti17:10
benjis/ti/it/17:10
seletzThats pretty critical, being the primary dev tool nowadays ...17:10
benjihow do you provoke the error?17:11
seletzOne can't even hack around it easily -- doing a bootstrap will always get the newest version IIRC17:11
seletzbenji: just doing a bootstrap of a buildout is enough17:11
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seletzbenji: confirmed on two different linux boxen17:11
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seletzbenji: I'll try now on OSX17:12
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seletzbenji: give me a miute, ok?17:13
seletzbenji: I'll try to nail down the minimal stuff reqired to get breakage17:13
benjiseletz: I just created an empty directory with an empty buildout.cfg and boostraped it with no exception17:13
benjik17:14
seletzbenji: it has to do with some of my buildouts, then. But these clearly worked long enough and do no longer work with 1.0.5 -- lemme nail it17:14
malthewhere's tarek?17:16
maltheperhaps 1.0.5 should be withdrawn from the cheeseshop?17:17
maltheor 1.0.4 set as the default17:17
seletzbenji: ok, on OSX the same buildout breaks, too17:18
seletzI'll remove all of the parts one by one to get at the one which causes the breakage17:18
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benjiseletz: I'd put a pdb.set_trace() just before the line that triggers the error and then run the buildout, then you can poke around in the stack trace to see what buildout what doing when the error occurred17:22
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seletzbenji: well, did that17:24
seletzbenji: I have a patch which does "fix" the issue17:24
seletzbenji: the issue is pretty obscure to me. The code tries to access buildout._allow_hosts, which is set in the BO constructor -- but in that case it's not there.17:25
seletzbenji: I run the boostrap with -D17:25
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faassenJ1m: I assume zc.yuiresource doesn't do very much yet?17:51
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seletzbenji:  I have a minimal buildout of 10 lines which provokes th error18:09
benjicool18:09
benjithat should be filed with your bug report18:09
benji...wherever the bug report should go; I'm not sure about that18:09
lisppaste6seletz pasted "bo 1.0.5 error" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/6207018:09
seletzbenji: ^^^^18:10
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benjithat should be filed with your bug report18:12
seletzbenji: I'll do. It's on launchpad.18:12
seletzbenji: who's the package maintainer of zc.buildout? Maybe the 1.0.5 release should be revoked.18:13
benjireleases are never removed18:13
malthebut maybe the 1.0.4 should be made default, for now.18:14
benjiwe need to release a fixed version18:14
benjidefine "made default"18:14
seletzmalthe: cpuld you please confirm that the bo config i pasted at the url above does indeed get an error?18:14
maltheon the cheeseshop, you can (afaik) set a current or default version18:14
maltheseletz: let me try18:15
seletzmalte, just to rule out personal madness, insanity etc.18:15
maltheit does break18:15
malthegood to rule out18:16
malthestrange that the tests don't catch this??18:17
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seletzmalthe, phew18:17
seletzsooo -- is thes even a valid buildout configuration18:18
maltheyou should incorporate your buildout into buildout.txt, and see if you can provoke it in a test18:18
malthesure it's valid18:18
seletzmalthe, I still have no zope svn access18:18
malthegah18:18
malthesend a fax to J1m og faassen18:19
seletzfaassen: Hi, how to get zope svn access? I want to fix/add tests to zc.buildout18:19
seletzhmm, could even try google :p18:20
faassenmalthe: a fax to me? just to Jim. :)18:20
faassenseletz: let me get you the web page with Jim's instructions.18:20
faassenseletz: a moment.18:20
malthefaassen: :-)18:20
seletzfaassen: http://www.zope.org/DevHome/Subversion/ImpatientPeoplesGuideToRequestingCommitPrivileges18:20
seletzthat one ?18:20
malthenice url18:21
J1myes18:21
faassenseletz: yes, that one. :)18:21
seletzcool, thanks. Will do the fax-tha-stuff method.18:23
seletzfaassen, J1m: But still -- the zc.buildout release 1.0.5 seems broken. Is there a way to revoke that release?18:24
faassenseletz: can't revoke releases, need to do a new release with a fix.18:24
faassenseletz: revoking releases is bad policy.18:24
benjiindeed18:24
seletzfaassen: then a 1.0.6 which reverts the changeset?18:24
faassenseletz: yes, that sounds right. I'm not confused by any understanding of the details. :)18:24
faassenseletz: I suggest you talk to Andreas Jung and/or Jim Fulton (j1m)18:25
faassenseletz: or just a message to zope-dev about it all.18:25
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seletzfaassen: ok, will do.18:31
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seletzfaassen: meanwhile, I've added a bug report and patch here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/zc.buildout/+bug/23921218:42
faassenseletz: that's always a good idea, thanks. :)18:43
seletzfaassen: hmm I guess you're not the one to talk to, are you? ;)18:43
faassenseletz: no, I'm not. Jim would be the most important person, but there are other buildout hackers hanging around. it's just not me. :)18:43
seletzfaassen: mh-kay. Fax sent, anyhow.18:47
seletzfaassen: and thanks!18:47
seletzJ1m: could you perhaps look at the bug (if its even valid), or point me to someone who could? It's critical (to me), because buildouts do no longer work which worked before.18:49
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benjiseletz: you should be able to nail the version to one that works18:51
mgedmingit bisect... oops, this is svn18:51
seletzbenji: well, tried that. But not if you doing a bootstrap18:52
seletzbenji: i looked at the bootstrap code, its not obvious to me how to nail a version of zc.buildout there18:52
seletzbenji: it always tries to get the newest release. Yo can't even temporarily apply a patch because it does install the egg in a volatile temp directory18:53
malthebenji: you can *hide* releases on pypi; that's not the same as removing them.18:53
malthewhy not hide the bad release?18:54
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faassenseletz: sounds like a pretty nasty problem, benji should poke j1m to get a new release out quickly then.19:00
seletzfaassen: well, lets hope the buildout deities are in favor of doing that, then :)19:01
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J1mI haven't made a release in a while.19:29
* J1m wonders who made the last release and can someone poke them.19:29
seletzJ1m: I guess it was Andreas Jung -- I sent mail.19:32
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seletzAnother question for builout deities. I'm debugging lxml builds on OSX right now. I'm using z3c.recipe.egg, which allows me to add arbitary arguments to a setup.py script (which lxml needs). Now I wind that zc.buildout/zc.buildout/buildout.py::Buildout.setup() does create a temporary wrapper script for calling setup.py. This script does a os.chdir(). Why is that?20:05
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benjiseletz: no clue20:08
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TheVisionHello.  I'm getting the following error using zc.sourcerelease and I was hoping someone might be able to give some insight as to what I may be able to do to get this thing packaging! :-)23:33
TheVisionhttp://paste.plone.org/2193123:33
benjiTheVision: not sure, but it looks like a previous run chose exactly the same temp directory (which seems very strange), try removing /home/amannar/tmp/tmpAVx6q1source-release2/devel/eggs and try again23:36
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TheVisioni'll make sure /tmp is totally clean.. i think overall error message isn't too helpful because it does a good job of cleaning everything up and removing after error23:38
TheVisionso you'd think it was just clear /tmp but its not really that23:38
benjiTheVision: note that the temp file wasn't in /tmp, but /home/amannar/tmp23:41
TheVisionyup.. that's what I meant.. just didn't type it all out.. :-)23:41
TheVisionmy system /tmp is quite small overloads.. so I changed environment tmp to point to local location and lets system build huge package23:41
benjiTheVision: I have no clue then. ;)23:42
TheVisionthanks for the help and response.. i appreciate it23:42
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