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| ranjith | Hi everyone.. | 05:44 |
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| ranjith | I am now trying to do the RestrictePython Implimentation of zope2 supported in python2.5 | 05:54 |
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| ranjith | Can someone suggest me how to start with patching the zope2 Restsictedpython policy with the changes needed as the python2.5 has changed..? | 05:55 |
| ranjith | I mean how to enter the restrictedpython module..? | 05:56 |
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| mgedmin | hm | 14:33 |
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| mgedmin | yesterday I wanted to be able to run the zope test runner with python -m zope.testing.testrunner | 14:33 |
| mgedmin | today I can't quite convince myself that this is useful | 14:33 |
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| * mgedmin wants buildout.cfg.override, to prevent accidentally committing buildout.cfg with debugging changes | 14:41 | |
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| philiKON | mgedmin: create a mybuildout.cfg file | 14:46 |
| philiKON | that extends=buildout.cfg | 14:46 |
| philiKON | and then do | 14:46 |
| mgedmin | duh! | 14:46 |
| mgedmin | thanks | 14:46 |
| philiKON | bin/buildout -c mybuldout.cfg | 14:46 |
| philiKON | np :) | 14:47 |
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| * mgedmin hates subversion again | 15:09 | |
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| mgedmin | grr | 15:23 |
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| ccomb | mgedmin should remind of cvs :) | 15:40 |
| mgedmin | I was thinking about it this morning, actually | 15:40 |
| mgedmin | trying to remember any occasion where it hurt me | 15:40 |
| mgedmin | and I couldn't | 15:40 |
| philiKON | uh, the fact that it can't ever really delete directories? | 15:42 |
| philiKON | (it can only "purge" empty ones) | 15:42 |
| philiKON | the fact that it loses history upon every rename | 15:42 |
| Theuni | the fact that checkins aren't atomical | 15:42 |
| mgedmin | yes, yes, I was trying to remember where any of that actually bit me | 15:42 |
| Theuni | you can't offline diff | 15:42 |
| Theuni | you can't really stat without updating | 15:43 |
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| philiKON | yeah, stat w/o updating | 15:43 |
| philiKON | that bit me often | 15:43 |
| mgedmin | none of that beats subversion server looping forever eating memory until OOM on my home directory's repository | 15:43 |
| philiKON | we got bitten a lot during gheddons in zope | 15:43 |
| mgedmin | or bzr suddenly deciding my history is bad and refusing to do anything with it any more | 15:43 |
| philiKON | svn "blames" me for many lines of code | 15:43 |
| philiKON | that i never wrote :) | 15:43 |
| philiKON | just moved around | 15:43 |
| ccomb | oops, didn't want to trigger yet another vcs flame :) | 15:44 |
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| mgedmin | has anyone ever tried cross-compiling windows python eggs on linux? | 15:44 |
| mgedmin | there's a mingw-based cross-compiler, iirc | 15:45 |
| philiKON | i haven't | 15:45 |
| * mgedmin googles | 15:45 | |
| mgedmin | hm, http://kampfwurst.net/python-mingw32/ | 15:46 |
| philiKON | only used mingw32 on windows | 15:46 |
| philiKON | kampfwurst.net lol | 15:46 |
| mgedmin | you must know german | 15:46 |
| philiKON | who... me? | 15:46 |
| mgedmin | the lol gives it away | 15:46 |
| * mgedmin googles for google translate | 15:46 | |
| mgedmin | "sausage fight"? | 15:47 |
| philiKON | more like "fighting sausage" | 15:47 |
| philiKON | e.g. Kampfjet = fighter jet | 15:48 |
| philiKON | Kampfhund = attack dog | 15:48 |
| philiKON | etc. | 15:48 |
| mgedmin | why oh why isn't --exit-with-status on by default in zope.testing.testrunner? | 15:51 |
| mgedmin | and why didn't we extract the test runner to zope.testrunner? zope.testing is full of unrelated other things | 15:51 |
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| * mgedmin thwacks zope.app.twisted-3.4.1-py2.5.egg/zope/app/twisted/ftp/tests/trial.txt with a big hammer | 16:25 | |
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| * mgedmin files https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope.testing/+bug/253959 and prepares to fix it | 16:54 | |
| mgedmin | ... after lunch | 16:55 |
| srichter | mgedmin: wow, you really go hardcore after those failing tests! Swesome! | 17:01 |
| benji | Swesome, indeed. ;) | 17:02 |
| srichter | benji: he he | 17:02 |
| srichter | mgedmin: btw, my wife will go to Germany next week for two weeks, so this will be the best oppurtunity for us to get this Zope 3.4 release out of the door | 17:03 |
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| srichter | mgedmin: good job with bug 253959 | 17:11 |
| srichter | when I saw it, I was too lazy to investigate it :-) | 17:11 |
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| projekt01 | srichter, what do you think about z3c.form hints? | 17:20 |
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| * mgedmin demands a trac instance for zope 3 | 18:20 | |
| srichter | mgedmin: that's not a bad idea | 18:21 |
| mgedmin | trac's repository browser is very nice | 18:22 |
| ccomb | the launchpad is not enough? | 18:22 |
| mgedmin | for figuring out branch history | 18:22 |
| ccomb | ah for the repository | 18:22 |
| srichter | mgedmin: you can talk to Jim and Jens to give you a little bit more power on the svn.zope.org machine and install it there | 18:22 |
| mgedmin | I only want the repo browser | 18:22 |
| mgedmin | or I could set up a local one on the svn repository mirror I just made ;-) | 18:22 |
| mgedmin | the thing is, I want to fix KGS tests | 18:23 |
| mgedmin | and this leads to a deep stack | 18:23 |
| mgedmin | I need to fix the test runner | 18:23 |
| mgedmin | for that I need to make a 3.5.4 release | 18:23 |
| mgedmin | for that I need to update CHANGES.txt | 18:23 |
| mgedmin | for that I need to figure out what's going on with the "Next release" section with all those new features | 18:24 |
| mgedmin | supposedly those were released with 3.6.0 | 18:24 |
| mgedmin | but I have a grave suspicion some of them, at least, snuck into 3.5.something | 18:24 |
| mgedmin | for that I need to look at the branch history, both before and after the creation of the 3.5 branch | 18:24 |
| mgedmin | for that I find svn command-line tools (a) slow and (b) inconvenient | 18:25 |
| ccomb | lol | 18:25 |
| mgedmin | heh, yesterday I had to upgrade a server at work to hardy because I wanted a buildbot slave running the KGS tests on python 2.5 on a 32-bit machine | 18:25 |
| mgedmin | and dapper had no python 2.5 | 18:25 |
| * ccomb encourages mgedmin | 18:25 | |
| * mgedmin is not complaining about doing those things | 18:26 | |
| * mgedmin is complaining that with this depth of the todo stack it's a bit hard to keep track of what you're doing | 18:26 | |
| ccomb | another option is to move everything to bzr in the launchpad | 18:27 |
| * mgedmin SHUDDERS | 18:27 | |
| mgedmin | have you ever tried bzr on any larger project? | 18:27 |
| mgedmin | give them a couple of years to mature | 18:27 |
| mgedmin | ask the schooltool guys how long do they have to wait for a bzr checkout from launchpad | 18:28 |
| ccomb | I have had problems on a very small project, indeed | 18:28 |
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| ccomb | another option is to move to svn 1.5 with merge tracking | 18:29 |
| mgedmin | setuptools do not support svn 1.5 | 18:30 |
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| ccomb | until there is a new release, I think it's fixed in the trunk ? | 18:30 |
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| mgedmin | sadly, setuptools releases are not made early and often | 18:31 |
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| mgedmin | why is J1m blinking like this? | 18:32 |
| benji | he put his laptop to sleep | 18:34 |
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| srichter | mgedmin: see my last zope-dev mail; I proposed some scripts that decrease the stack a bit | 18:36 |
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| mgedmin | oh noes, now I have to push another item (read zope-dev) onto my stack :-) | 18:37 |
| mgedmin | the good thing about this is I'm afraid to lose state, so I document it in launchpad bugs and emails to zope-dev | 18:38 |
| srichter | LOL | 18:39 |
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| mgedmin | okay, now I'm fighting with trac and clearsilver on 64-bit (apparently?) | 18:52 |
| mgedmin | /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/neo_cgi.so: undefined symbol: Py_InitModule4 | 18:52 |
| srichter | :-( | 18:53 |
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| mgedmin | btw anyone wants to add buildout.cfg and bootstrap.py to z3c.skin? | 18:53 |
| srichter | mgedmin: let's bully Roger when comes back after dinner :-) | 18:54 |
| mgedmin | yay fun: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/trac/+bug/86685 | 18:54 |
| srichter | mgedmin: We switched from z3c.skin to z3c.skin.*, so we might just fix the KGS in that respect | 18:55 |
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| mgedmin | yay I has a trac | 19:05 |
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| mgedmin | http://zope3.pov.lt/trac | 19:36 |
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| mgedmin | srichter: controlled-packages.cfg has tested=false under [zope.testing] | 20:55 |
| mgedmin | any reason to leave that now that zc.buildbot rebuilds pycs correctly? | 20:55 |
| srichter | it does? | 20:56 |
| srichter | cool | 20:56 |
| srichter | so take that out! | 20:56 |
| srichter | mgedmin: I did not realize Jim fixed that problem | 20:57 |
| mgedmin | I got an email about the bug getting closed in launchpad | 20:57 |
| mgedmin | a while ago | 20:57 |
| mgedmin | oops, wait | 20:57 |
| mgedmin | that was probably zc.buildout 1.1.0 | 20:58 |
| mgedmin | the kgs still demands 1.0.0 | 20:58 |
| srichter | I think this is worth the upgrade | 20:58 |
| srichter | mgedmin: I rather have the tested version in there | 20:59 |
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| mgedmin | hm, I can't find the bug | 20:59 |
| srichter | it might have never been officially reported | 21:00 |
| mgedmin | ah, no bug, an email to distutils list: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/distutils-sig/2008-July/009720.html | 21:00 |
| mgedmin | yes, it was 1.1.0 | 21:00 |
| mgedmin | srichter: so should I revert the [zope.testing] tested = false change, or bump zc.buildout to 1.1.0 in the kgs? | 21:01 |
| * mgedmin should have checked that before committing, eh) | 21:01 | |
| srichter | no, no problem | 21:01 |
| srichter | I would bump to zc.buildout to 1.1.0 | 21:01 |
| srichter | the change is so worth it | 21:02 |
| srichter | and then have zope.testing being tested | 21:02 |
| srichter | ah, you removed tested=false already | 21:02 |
| srichter | cool | 21:02 |
| mgedmin | question | 21:03 |
| mgedmin | why does zope.release's README.txt say to run bin/generate-buildout before running bin/upload | 21:04 |
| mgedmin | ? | 21:04 |
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| srichter | mgedmin: outdated; I used to upload all generated files | 21:05 |
| srichter | mgedmin: before I had my fancy generation script that does it all and runs as a cron job | 21:05 |
| * mgedmin curses buildbot's SVN step for hanging | 21:13 | |
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| srichter | mgedmin: what hangs? | 21:21 |
| mgedmin | buildbot's svn update step | 21:22 |
| srichter | why? (I meant) | 21:23 |
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| mgedmin | no idea | 21:24 |
| mgedmin | bug in buildbot | 21:25 |
| srichter | mgedmin: the man with answers just joined :-) | 21:25 |
| mgedmin | 2008/08/01 21:05 +0300 [-] SlaveBuilder.commandComplete <buildbot.slave.commands.SVN instance at 0xe22950> | 21:25 |
| mgedmin | 2008/08/01 21:05 +0300 [-] but we weren't running, quitting silently | 21:25 |
| mgedmin | buildBOT, not buildOUT | 21:25 |
| srichter | oh buildbot | 21:25 |
| srichter | yeah, yeah, just saw | 21:25 |
| srichter | it | 21:25 |
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| srichter | ccomb: thanks a lot for your digging and updating the files | 21:26 |
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| ccomb | you're welcome. | 21:30 |
| ccomb | Is there a script to detect automatically all the bugfix releases ? | 21:30 |
| srichter | ccomb: yep :-) | 21:30 |
| srichter | ccomb: it's ./bin/list-latest | 21:31 |
| srichter | in zope.release | 21:31 |
| ccomb | ok | 21:31 |
| srichter | ccomb: there are also some new scripts you could write that would be very helpful | 21:31 |
| ccomb | there is a lot of things I would like to do and my todo list is enormous | 21:32 |
| srichter | of course, like everyones | 21:33 |
| srichter | :-) | 21:33 |
| ccomb | I don't even have time to test all the z3c stuffs you release... | 21:33 |
| ccomb | currently trying z3c.contents and z3c.table | 21:33 |
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| ccomb | would like to work again on the object widget of z3c.form if it makes sense | 21:34 |
| ccomb | and the new website is still unfinished | 21:35 |
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| ccomb | It would be great to have it for 3.4.0 | 21:36 |
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| srichter | ccomb: uuh, I want an object widget too :-) | 21:42 |
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| mgedmin | ccomb: reStructuredText tip: you cannot remove the blank line between a bulleted list item and a nested bulleted list | 21:46 |
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| ccomb | srichter I will probably need it soon so I'll have to work again on it | 22:06 |
| ccomb | mgedmin oups I'm not an expert in rst | 22:06 |
| srichter | ccomb: cool | 22:07 |
| mgedmin | nobody is | 22:07 |
| mgedmin | rst promises to be intuitive, but doesn't quite deliver | 22:07 |
| * mgedmin cheats by previewing it with restview | 22:08 | |
| * ccomb finds boring to be obliged to learn a new wiki-like syntax every month | 22:08 | |
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| mgedmin | can I control the order of the test layers? | 22:23 |
| mgedmin | zope.testing 3.6.0 moves unit tests to the end | 22:23 |
| mgedmin | I think that's because UnitTests alphabetically are near the end | 22:23 |
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| benji | mgedmin: the last time I worked on zope.testing I considered special-casing the unit tests to run first; seemed to be a better policy because they're generally fast and might produce errors faster than functional tests so you could find stupid mistakes faster (syntax errors, etc.) | 22:44 |
| mgedmin | yay | 22:45 |
| mgedmin | should be simple | 22:45 |
| mgedmin | http://zope3.pastey.net/92926 | 22:46 |
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| benji | yep, the code change is simple, now all the tests have to be fixed ;) | 22:57 |
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| Theuni | eeek | 23:09 |
| Theuni | that change isn't really nice | 23:09 |
| Theuni | i think that way of sorting needs to be changed | 23:10 |
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