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| tarek | is there a way to subscribe to an event, but not its descendants ? | 15:22 |
| tarek | I have an event B that derives from event A, and a subscriber on A. When event B is triggered, my code is called, and I don't want this to happen | 15:23 |
| tarek | ok it seems to be 'declared' | 15:26 |
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| philiKON | tarek: 'declared' ? | 15:34 |
| tarek | the declared attribute in the Implements class in zope.interface.declarations | 15:36 |
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| tarek | its on Zope 2 OFS ObjectWillBeMovedEvent and ObjectWillBeAddedEvent events | 15:39 |
| tarek | ObjectWillBeAddedEvent removes some infos in its constructor, so the event code that is subscribed to ObjectWillBeMovedEvent brakes | 15:40 |
| tarek | philiKON here http://svn.zope.org/Zope/trunk/lib/python/OFS/event.py?rev=67823&view=markup | 15:41 |
| * tarek finds event inheritance a bit weird | 15:41 | |
| philiKON | you just check for None in the subscriber i guess | 15:42 |
| tarek | yes we did so, but we were looking for a 'implements this interface but no other inherited interface' kind of API then | 15:45 |
| tarek | anyway, thx :) | 15:45 |
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| ARiKA | Hello | 16:24 |
| ARiKA | hi afd__ :) | 16:24 |
| afd__ | hi ARiKA, how's zope3 learning going? | 16:24 |
| ARiKA | well with a big holidays stop | 16:25 |
| ARiKA | so I don't remember a thing | 16:25 |
| ARiKA | lol | 16:25 |
| afd__ | haha :) | 16:25 |
| ARiKA | but difficult and slow : | 16:25 |
| ARiKA | :) | 16:25 |
| afd__ | it will come back | 16:25 |
| ARiKA | yeah hahahaha | 16:25 |
| ARiKA | class Blah( IPersistent ): | 16:25 |
| afd__ | what was it, a month to write a blog? | 16:25 |
| ARiKA | ... | 16:25 |
| ARiKA | hahahahaha | 16:25 |
| ARiKA | well It was usable... | 16:25 |
| ARiKA | didn't finished it | 16:25 |
| ARiKA | gone on holidays hahahahaha | 16:25 |
| ARiKA | now I'm rewritting just to clean things... :) | 16:26 |
| * ARiKA got original philip's book | 16:26 | |
| ARiKA | hahahahaha | 16:26 |
| ARiKA | :) | 16:26 |
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| ARiKA | but I'll do my best... | 16:26 |
| ARiKA | and how are you?? | 16:26 |
| afd__ | heh... :) | 16:27 |
| ARiKA | I definitely chosen Zope 3 as the engine of my series of websites... | 16:27 |
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| ARiKA | it's amazing and serves for everything heh | 16:27 |
| afd__ | hopefully you'll overcome the learning curve | 16:31 |
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| ARiKA | yeah I suppose lol | 16:33 |
| ARiKA | afd__: it's about "getting the thing" | 16:36 |
| ARiKA | and then everything get's easy | 16:36 |
| ARiKA | lol | 16:36 |
| ARiKA | one thing | 16:36 |
| afd__ | ? | 16:36 |
| ARiKA | to transform latex code into a picture... I have to do an Adaptor... | 16:36 |
| ARiKA | that's the name, isn't it? | 16:37 |
| ARiKA | something that would change somewhat like <latex> ... </latex> in the page content | 16:37 |
| ARiKA | and then write an <img> tag that points to somewhere those pictures are generated, true? | 16:38 |
| afd__ | you can generate the image "in memory" | 16:39 |
| ARiKA | ahhhh | 16:39 |
| ARiKA | yeah,... | 16:39 |
| ARiKA | but I would need an <img tag just to watch the picture! | 16:39 |
| ARiKA | lol | 16:40 |
| afd__ | you could probably have an wsgi filter that could take <latex/> tags and change them to images | 16:40 |
| ARiKA | wsgi... | 16:40 |
| ARiKA | hmm... | 16:40 |
| ARiKA | yeah | 16:40 |
| ARiKA | so the image generator would be an Application | 16:40 |
| afd__ | or some kind of response handler in zope | 16:40 |
| ARiKA | and the Adapter is the one that changes the code in the page | 16:40 |
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| ARiKA | isn't it? | 16:40 |
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| ARiKA | huh... cool | 16:41 |
| afd__ | "adapter" is more of an implementation detail... you shouldn't think about them when you're at this stage | 16:41 |
| ARiKA | just making plans for the future hahaha :) | 16:41 |
| ARiKA | I'm just curious :) | 16:42 |
| afd__ | don't try to fit them everywhere until you understand what they do... you are not required to write (explicit) adapters just to generate pages in zope | 16:44 |
| ARiKA | ahms... | 16:44 |
| ARiKA | got one problem lol | 16:44 |
| ARiKA | Zope is BIG | 16:44 |
| ARiKA | really BIG | 16:44 |
| ARiKA | hahahahaha | 16:44 |
| afd__ | so learn just the part that you need | 16:44 |
| ARiKA | aha | 16:44 |
| ARiKA | cool | 16:45 |
| ARiKA | well anyway I'll remember everything | 16:45 |
| ARiKA | will rewrite all the code because I changed my mind about some facts! | 16:45 |
| ARiKA | but will try to do my best... | 16:45 |
| afd__ | persistent objects, zope component architecture, the publishing machinery should be enough to be able to create a simple app | 16:45 |
| ARiKA | told you before... the day I get something I'll tell you | 16:45 |
| ARiKA | :) | 16:45 |
| ARiKA | yeah yeah | 16:45 |
| afd__ | then you can learn formlib, templating, advanced page layout, etc | 16:45 |
| ARiKA | I understand about persistent a bit | 16:45 |
| ARiKA | aha | 16:45 |
| ARiKA | formlib? | 16:46 |
| ARiKA | what I did is what Philips suggested | 16:46 |
| afd__ | ? | 16:46 |
| ARiKA | using schemas and those add edit change pages | 16:46 |
| ARiKA | :) | 16:46 |
| ARiKA | but I already knew Zope owned a powerfful form machinery insight... | 16:46 |
| ARiKA | what I discovered is that if you browser around the APIDOC and the code of Zope 3 itself | 16:47 |
| ARiKA | you learn more faster and exactly | 16:47 |
| ARiKA | :) | 16:47 |
| afd__ | the problem is deciding which one to use: zope.app.form, zope.formlib, z3c.form , make your pick | 16:47 |
| afd__ | :) | 16:47 |
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| ARiKA | hahahaa | 16:48 |
| ARiKA | yeah | 16:48 |
| ARiKA | :) | 16:48 |
| ARiKA | I understood also that ZCML is really important to develop zope | 16:48 |
| ARiKA | in the apidoc they have a ZCML reference | 16:49 |
| ARiKA | and there you get all the details... | 16:49 |
| ARiKA | also it's possible to create ZCML tags! | 16:49 |
| ARiKA | :) | 16:49 |
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| afd__ | I consider it an implementation detail... once you understand it it stops being so important | 16:52 |
| ARiKA | hahahahaha, possibly true | 16:53 |
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| ChrisW | hey all, is there any way to mix methods that are doc tests adn methods that are normal unit tests in a TestSuite class? | 22:20 |
| mgedmin | sure | 22:22 |
| ChrisW | how? | 22:22 |
| mgedmin | def test_myUnitTestStyleTest(): self.assertSomething(...) | 22:22 |
| mgedmin | def doctest_myDoctestStyleTest(): """ >>> something ... """ | 22:22 |
| ChrisW | and what type of class do you put those in? | 22:23 |
| mgedmin | you don't get the setUp/tearDown, though | 22:23 |
| ChrisW | :-( | 22:23 |
| mgedmin | only those you pass in test_suite()'s doctest.DocTestSuite() | 22:23 |
| mgedmin | hmm | 22:23 |
| mgedmin | it'd make sense if DocTestSuite accepted not just a module, but also a class as an argument | 22:23 |
| mgedmin | doctest.DocTestSuite(MyTestClass, setUp=MyTestClass.setUp, tearDown=MyTestClass.tearDown) | 22:24 |
| lisppaste6 | x pasted "x" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/65500 | 22:25 |
| ChrisW | that's the kind of thing I'm after... | 22:25 |
| ChrisW | with the test suite's normal set up and tear down done | 22:25 |
| ChrisW | I'm guessing your'e going to tell me that'll never work? :-S | 22:25 |
| mgedmin | not straightforwardly | 22:26 |
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| ChrisW | *sulk* | 22:26 |
| ChrisW | where's my cake? I want to eat it *now* | 22:26 |
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| mgedmin | yay, 3.4 kgs buildbot shows only one stable failure (something in z3c.formjs) | 23:38 |
| mgedmin | and two nondeterministic ones (one in ZEO, one in zdaemon) | 23:39 |
| * mgedmin fixes summary code to extract summaries even when there is no line saying "Tests with errors:" | 23:39 | |
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