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mintsauceGetting the following error when adding data via formlib, im a little confused why: TypeError: "'unicode' object is not callable"16:41
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mintsauceignore me - it was related to a bad search index :)16:46
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ignasanyone with access to http://download.zope.org/zope3.4/versions.cfg ?17:22
ignassetuptools = 0.6c8 should get updated to setuptools = 0.6c917:23
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MadeRGreetings, does anybody know where I can find a tutorial explaining me all the "parts" that are involved in the flow from inserting login and password to having an authenticated principal?17:30
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MadeRI mean how the principal folder, ICredential and IAuthenticator should be used together.17:32
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ccombignas: the version is already updated in the 3.4 branch of zope.release17:36
ccombbut another rc (or the final) has to be released17:37
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mintsauceTrying to create dublincore creators tuple, but it keeps adding each letter individually --- help!17:42
lisppaste6mintsauce pasted "Dublin Core oddness" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/7102017:42
ccomb(u'test',)  ?17:43
ignasccomb: thanks for the info17:43
mintsauceccomb: hah! thats it - thanks17:43
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mintsauceccomb: is IWriteZopeDublinCore not persistent? I'm losing the modifications when i restart the instance ...18:12
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ccombmintsauce: beeing persistent or not is a matter of the stored objet, not the interface18:15
ccombyou must be careful what you're storing18:16
ccombif you modify a list, the objet _p_changed attribute must be set to True, unless it is a PersistentList18:16
ignasccomb: you mean - if you modify the list that is stored in an attribute of a persistent object you must set _p_changed attribute on that object (list does not have that attribute), yes?18:18
ccombI mean if you modify an object of the list (or dict)18:18
ccomba list has no way to know if a list item has been changed18:18
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ignasif that object is persistent - it should still work even with a simple list i think18:19
ccombignas: yes18:19
ignasnow the problem is if you add elements to the list, and the "owner" of the list has no idea that the list has changed18:19
ignasunless it checks18:19
ccombif you add elements to the list, the list has changed, so the object can be aware of the change18:20
ignasnope, not really18:21
ignasmy_persistent_obj.foo = []18:21
ignasmy_persistent_obj.foo.append("lalala")18:21
ignaswill not work unless you do my_persistent_obj._p_changed = True18:21
ignasbecause the list will not notify your object about the change18:21
ignasthus ZODB will think that the object has not changed18:21
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ccombmmmh, yes18:22
ccombI always have trouble remembering this18:22
mintsauce_p_changed ? never come across that .....18:23
ignasmintsauce: most of the time - you should not touch it18:23
ignasuse PersistentList classes18:24
ignasdo things like my_obj.foo = ["lalala"] instead of append18:24
ignasor use tuples to make other people notify your object about the change of the content18:24
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mintsauceheres the context in which im using it:18:25
lisppaste6mintsauce pasted "example" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/7102218:25
mintsauceWhen the user joins, I create a member folder based on their name, i also want them to be the creator - but they aren't logged in yet, so i was adding it manually.18:25
mintsauceit works, but as i said, doesnt persist past a restart...18:26
ignasstrange18:26
ignascan't say what's the problem at a glance18:26
ignaswould have to look using pdb or introspector18:27
mintsauceignas: do i need to set ._p_changed = True ?18:27
ignasmintsauce: you can try, but I don't think it will help18:28
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mintsaucehrrrm18:28
ignashmm18:29
ignaswhat's the defintion18:29
ignasof MemberFolder?18:29
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mintsauceits a BTreeContainer18:30
ignascan't spot a bug sorry18:30
ccombmintsauce: MemberFolder is an instance or a class ?18:33
mintsauceclass ....18:34
ccombalsoProvides(members_folder[name], IAttributeAnnotatable)18:34
ccombdc = IWriteZopeDublinCore(members_folder[name])18:34
ccomba class doesn't provide but implements an interface18:35
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* mintsauce bangs head against wall18:42
mintsaucethanks again ccomb, thats fixed it18:42
mintsauceone day ill get instances and classes the right way round18:43
afd_____mintsauce: class implements interface, instance provides that interface. easy :)18:43
mintsauceafd_____: youd think so wouldn't ya ;)18:43
afd_____yes18:43
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ccombmintsauce: you can configure the MemberFolder class to implement IAttributeAnnotatable in the <class> directive in ZCML, instead of adding the interface on runtime18:44
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mib_v3jhp3I need to develop a widget that consists of labels and checkboxes, do I need to create a field class or just a widget class?19:59
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mintsauceis there a way to call the NotFound error?20:27
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mgedminhey21:17
mgedminhttp://download.zope.org/zope3.4/versions.cfg still wants setuptools 0.6c821:17
mgedminwhich is not compatible with subversion 1.521:18
mgedmincan somebody upload a newer versions.cfg there?21:18
mgedminzope.release allows 0.6c9 in controlled-versions.ini21:18
mgedminI can't run bin/upload any more: Permission denied21:18
mgedminthe subversion issue really merits a new KGS point release21:18
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