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| nyo | There's a deprecation warning about importing `sets` module in zope.security.checker on python2.6 and I wonder how this should be fixed. I think one nice option is to supress the warning on importing (and restore it after importing), because we probably still want to define a default checker for it, even if it's deprecated. But just not defining a checker on python >= 2.6 is easier though :) Any opinions? | 19:22 |
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| ignas | are there any implementations of sites that do not depend on ZODB? | 20:06 |
| ignas | i'd like to try to do a ZODBless zope3 application, but it seems that I won't be able to use sites and local utilities | 20:07 |
| VladDrac | why no zodb dependency at all? | 20:09 |
| * VladDrac uses zope3 (grok) on top of a rdbms but it still uses the zodb for some application state | 20:09 | |
| ignas | VladDrac: I think not having to do all the double commit stuff would be kind of nice | 20:10 |
| VladDrac | double commit stuff? | 20:11 |
| ignas | well - if commit into one database succeeds, and commit into another one fails, the first commit has to be rolled back | 20:12 |
| ignas | also - isn't it adding additional complexity | 20:12 |
| ignas | i mean - why have 2 databases | 20:12 |
| ignas | makes it more difficult to transfer application state | 20:12 |
| ignas | makes it more difficult to evolve application | 20:12 |
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| nyo | ignas: doesn't `transaction` package handle the commit routines? | 22:51 |
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| VladDrac | sorry, back | 22:55 |
| VladDrac | ignas my apps hardly make any commits in the ZODB, so there's not much to fail | 22:55 |
| VladDrac | and if a commit on the rdbms fails, collective.lead or z3c.sqlalchemy or whatever's out there will handle that properly | 22:56 |
| VladDrac | (not that there's much to handle) | 22:57 |
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