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| binbrain | do I somehow misunderstand what the allowed_attributes arg for a browser:page is used for, I can never get it to work | 03:29 | 
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| binbrain | isn't it supposed to allow me to specify methods in my view that are accessible in template | 03:30 | 
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| tiredbones | It has been awhile since i tried using Zope3, but I would likr to try i again. I've been all over the net for current install instruction, the zope wiki even implies that their documentation is out dated. So could someone point me to some current install instruction? | 19:50 | 
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| afd_ | tiredbones: ZopeProject bootstraps a Zope 3 application for you, also providing a skeleton to build your application | 19:52 | 
| afd_ | so you should install ZopeProject, create a new app skeleton and work inside that | 19:52 | 
| afd_ | tiredbones: http://code.google.com/p/z3ergo/source/browse/#svn/LearningJourney might help you, there a PDF there also | 19:53 | 
| tiredbones | afd_ I'll give it a try. thnks | 19:54 | 
| VladDrac | and/or look at grok | 19:56 | 
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| tiredbones | afd_ I wanted to read this info, "LearningJourney-AZope3Introduction-en.pdf", but the file is to big to display. So how does one read it? | 20:02 | 
| tiredbones | VladDrac, do you have a pointer for grok? | 20:03 | 
| VladDrac | grok.zope.org | 20:03 | 
| tiredbones | thanks | 20:04 | 
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| afd_ | tiredbones: the text files that generated that file are in the docs/ folder | 20:17 | 
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| tiredbones | thk afd_ | 20:20 | 
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| tiredbones | afd_, i don't see anything at that site that helps with installing Zope3. | 20:37 | 
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| afd_ | tiredbones: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zopeproject | 21:24 | 
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| sparcd | I'm trying to run through a tutorial on creating a Principal Source Plug-in, however it refers to things that aren't there | 23:22 | 
| sparcd | can anyone point me in the right direction? I'm finding docs about Zope 3 very thin on the ground | 23:23 | 
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| afd_ | sparcd: just implement the plugin as a persistent object inside the PAU, then add the plugin in its list of active plugins | 23:26 | 
| afd_ | http://apidoc.zope.org/++apidoc++/Interface/zope.app.authentication.interfaces.IAuthenticatorPlugin/index.html | 23:26 | 
| afd_ | that's what you need to implement in the plugin | 23:26 | 
| sparcd | afd_: thanks for that, I was hoping for more of a tutorial as I'm still just stabbing in the dark here | 23:27 | 
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| afd_ | sparcd: there's not much to it. You could also read the sources of zope.app.authentication.principalfolder | 23:28 | 
| sparcd | afd_: ok, I'll take a look at the principal folder | 23:29 | 
| afd_ | the only "catch" that's not very obvious at first is that the principalfolder is a container for "internal principals", which just store information of users and are a completely different thing from a zope principal | 23:29 | 
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| sparcd | afd_: basically what I want to do is add a 'Client' (folder) than contains 'Client Members' (object) that can be used to login | 23:30 | 
| sparcd | I guess I use the PrincipalFolder idea and call it Client | 23:31 | 
| sparcd | afd_: how do I add one of the 'Principal Folders' to my instance out of the box? | 23:31 | 
| afd_ | sparcd: you could use the default implementation and store the extra data that you need in IPrincipalAnnotation | 23:32 | 
| sparcd | so I'd need to create a plugin within the pau that looks up client members in the site? | 23:32 | 
| afd_ | sparcd: that was for the question before | 23:33 | 
| sparcd | afd_: I don't want users to have to navigate to the pau to add clients and client members | 23:33 | 
| afd_ | Code to show you how to add a principal folder: http://code.google.com/p/z3ergo/source/browse/LearningJourney/src/learningjourney/app/event.py | 23:33 | 
| afd_ | there's also code to show you how to implement a registration system, if you look around that codebase | 23:34 | 
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| sparcd | afd_: I've tried adding a principal folder to my pau and entered a new user, but I can't now log in as that user | 23:35 | 
| afd_ | sparcd: did you select that plugin as active for the pau? | 23:36 | 
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| sparcd | yes | 23:36 | 
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| sparcd | and selected the zope basic realm credentials | 23:37 | 
| afd_ | try to enable the session plugin, to see if it makes a difference | 23:37 | 
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| sparcd | ok | 23:38 | 
| sparcd | afd_: maybe cos I have zope.Member role required to access the site | 23:39 | 
| sparcd | afd_: do I add this inside my ++etc++site ? | 23:41 | 
| afd_ | sparcd: no, you should grant that role in your site root | 23:42 | 
| sparcd | afd_: I'm finding this damn near impossible to understand | 23:44 | 
| sparcd | I've been working with Zope2 and Plone for years and this is baffling me | 23:44 | 
| afd_ | sparcd: it's not that hard | 23:44 | 
| sparcd | i have added a principal and can't log in with those details | 23:44 | 
| afd_ | ++etc++site is a shortcut to the local components registry, where local utilities are registered | 23:45 | 
| sparcd | I have started from scratch now, so I am just trying to use the built in Principal Folder | 23:45 | 
| sparcd | afd_: so I can ignore ++etc++site for the moment? | 23:46 | 
| afd_ | you don't need to make role grants there, because normal users don't need access there | 23:46 | 
| afd_ | yes | 23:46 | 
| afd_ | you need to grant that role in the site | 23:46 | 
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| afd_ | for example, you can add a folder to the zope root and click the "Make Site" button | 23:46 | 
| sparcd | ok I have done that | 23:47 | 
| sparcd | now :-) | 23:47 | 
| sparcd | and then I add my pau into that folder? | 23:47 | 
| afd_ | now you'll have two ++etc++site, one for the zope root and one for this site | 23:47 | 
| sparcd | yeah that's right | 23:47 | 
| afd_ | when inside the folder, click on the "manage site" button | 23:47 | 
| afd_ | this takes you to the corresponding ++etc++ site section | 23:47 | 
| sparcd | yup, now it's turned brown and into the ++etc++ folder | 23:48 | 
| afd_ | once there, you can add a pau | 23:48 | 
| afd_ | very important, you need to register that pau as a utility from the Registration button | 23:48 | 
| sparcd | click on the 'Register this object' button | 23:48 | 
| afd_ | yes | 23:48 | 
| sparcd | I then get an error | 23:49 | 
| afd_ | what error? | 23:49 | 
| sparcd | ComponentLookupError: (<zope.app.publisher.browser.viewmeta.AddAuthenticationRegistration object at 0x2a9e1f0>, <InterfaceClass zope.formlib.namedtemplate.INamedTemplate>, 'default') | 23:49 | 
| afd_ | are you on zope 2? | 23:49 | 
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| sparcd | no, Zope 3 | 23:49 | 
| sparcd | eggs/zope.component-3.5.1-py2.4.egg/zope/component/_api.py", line 91, in getAdapter | 23:49 | 
| afd_ | seems like zope.formlib's configure.zcml is not loaded | 23:49 | 
| sparcd | I'll just check that | 23:49 | 
| sparcd | added it to my configure.zcml | 23:50 | 
| sparcd | ah ha, got a textarea box now | 23:50 | 
| sparcd | with a comment | 23:51 | 
| afd_ | and a dropdown | 23:51 | 
| sparcd | no dropdown | 23:51 | 
| sparcd | I get it if I try to register anything else | 23:52 | 
| sparcd | a drop down, just not on pau | 23:52 | 
| sparcd | when I click 'Register' it registers as zope.app.security.interfaces.IAuthentication utility | 23:52 | 
| afd_ | that's ok | 23:53 | 
| afd_ | that's what we want | 23:53 | 
| afd_ | now you need to add a new plugin inside the pau, the principal container | 23:53 | 
| afd_ | this will be your users | 23:53 | 
| afd_ | source | 23:53 | 
| sparcd | yup done that now | 23:54 | 
| sparcd | added a user | 23:54 | 
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| sparcd | I get this error when I go to my new site folder not logged in: TypeError: ('Could not adapt', <zope.publisher.browser.BrowserRequest instance URL=http://localhost:8080/hammerhead>, <InterfaceClass zope.session.interfaces.ISession>) | 23:55 | 
| sparcd | added zope.session to my configure.zcml | 23:56 | 
| sparcd | woohoo, now logged in as new user | 23:57 | 
| sparcd | now on to my big question, if I want to add content to my site that can act as a 'member', do I need to create a plugin like the Principal Folder that finders the members in my site? | 23:57 | 
| sparcd | finders=finds | 23:58 | 
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