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mintsauceWhat would be the best schema field to use for a 'keyword' list entered by the user (so no vocab). I was assuming 'List' - but what value_type would I use?17:43
nyomintsauce: TextLine?17:44
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mintsaucenyo: Yup - allthough that creates an interface element with an add button and checkboxes .... I just want a simple input field for text (using formlib *spit*)17:56
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nyomintsauce: you need to create a custom widget for that then.. basically a TextLineWidget subclass with custom data converter18:01
mintsaucedoh18:01
nyoand then specify it as a custom_widget for your field18:01
mintsaucewhere can i find examples of a custom data convertor? havent used one before .........18:02
nyomintsauce: with zope.formlib (widgets are zope.app.form actually) it's the _toFieldValue method of the widget18:03
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nyomintsauce: and some method that converts value back to widget's representation (it's toWidgetValue in z3c.form, but IIRC, it has other name in zope.app.form)18:05
nyomintsauce: ah it's _toFormValue18:06
mintsaucenyo: thanks, will had a fiddle18:07
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shane_does anyone here have a good grasp of zope.schema's ISource concepts?23:24
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shane_around ISource there are tokens, terms, and values, and I can't find a document that nails down exactly what those mean.23:26
nyoshane_: isn't that the same as in vocabulary?23:26
shane_maybe23:26
davisaglithe token is what's used as a unique identifier within the widget, the value is what's actually stored in the field, the term is the link between the two23:26
shane_I'm also trying to figure out whether vocabularies are deprecated.23:27
nyoshane_: that's interesting to me as well :)23:27
shane_davisagli: good summary23:27
shane_ok, field value is definitely clear23:28
shane_now I'll go look at the code again and see if everyone actually agrees on that23:28
nyoshane_: vocabularies are still used everywhere and seem handy23:28
shane_nyo: why did the vocabulary ZCML directive get deprecated then?23:29
nyoshane_: because it's a simply utility, so "utility" directive will work fine23:29
nyoshane_: so, to reduce number of zcml directives, I guess23:30
shane_ok, then why are there both sources and vocabularies?23:30
shane_can't they do the same thing?23:30
nyoshane_: i want to know ) the vocabulary seems to be a special case of source23:31
shane_nyo: that sounds right.23:31
shane_nyo: thanks for the help23:32
nyoshane_: BTW, looking at the interfaces, "terms" are for dictionaries, not sources. but I may be wrong here23:32
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shane_this question came up because I switched my app from zope.formlib to z3c.form and the sources broke23:33
shane_it appears that z3c.form and zope.formlib interpret the interfaces differently.23:33
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shane_nyo: the zope.schema trunk has this comment in interfaces.py: # BBB vocabularies are pending deprecation, hopefully in 3.323:43
shane_It's so hard to figure out just what is supposed to be deprecated sometimes :-(23:43
shane_I'm tempted to remove that comment :-)23:44
nyoshane_: I guess they are intended to be deprecated because they have something to do with UI :)23:44
nyoshane_: there's also ITerms interface in zope.browser :)23:45
nyoshane_: btw, IIRC, support for sources was added to z3c.form's trunk23:45
shane_yes, and that's supposedly a generalization of both sources and vocabularies23:45
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