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| gary_poster | J1m_: Hey. I've done some experimentation and exploration IRT the buildout changes to accommodate a system Python, and how we would use it. This has changed my goals a bit, and I had to propose some additional changes. I wrote a description of the problem and solutions up for myself, and for discussion with others. | 17:11 |
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| gary_poster | If you have a chance, I'd appreciate it if you looked at this sometime: http://pastebin.com/m424b4ff2 . | 17:11 |
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| J1m_ | I'll try to look at this this morning. | 17:12 |
| gary_poster | thank you | 17:13 |
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| gary_poster | J1m_: revised version of doc, now that I've been informed about dist-packages. http://pastebin.com/m5fc8dd7d Gonna take lunch, no rush. | 19:50 |
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| gary_poster | la la la, looks like the information that caused the previous revision was incorrect. the original document is more correct, in fact. http://pastebin.com/m424b4ff2 | 21:08 |
| gary_poster | (dist-packages appears to be a Debian/Ubuntu thing, as I first thought) | 21:08 |
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| J1m_ | gary_poster, I updated http://pastebin.com/m17fe1671 | 21:10 |
| gary_poster | thank you! | 21:10 |
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| kobold | is there a specific reason why we have a circular dependency between zope.container and zope.filerepresentation? | 22:39 |
| Theuni1 | kobold: besides from someone having built it ? | 22:41 |
| mcdonc | kobold: you might get some clues from http://www.mail-archive.com/zope-dev@zope.org/msg29820.html | 22:41 |
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| mcdonc | (still doesnt really answer why but at least it explains the current state of affairs) | 22:42 |
| kobold | mcdonc: thanks for the link | 22:42 |
| kobold | mcdonc: it looks like we should get rid of zope.filerepresentation and merge it back to zope.container | 22:42 |
| mcdonc | sorta seems that way | 22:43 |
| mcdonc | otoh, there's no real harm in the direct circdep | 22:43 |
| mcdonc | (at least if you're not trying to use zope.filerepresentation without zope.container, which i dont think is a valid case) | 22:43 |
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| Theuni1 | mcdonc, kobold: i think i'd second folding this package in. otoh, i'd send a mail to zope-dev checking if someone really needs the separate package (which I agree with mcdonc that probably nobody does) | 22:46 |
| kobold | Theuni1: thanks | 22:46 |
| mcdonc | the only real issue is bw compat | 22:47 |
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| mcdonc | so (at worst) we might need to create a shim package named zope.filerepresentation that depended on zope.container and imported all the stuff that now lives in zope.container | 22:48 |
| mcdonc | but zope.container would no longer have the dependency in the other direction | 22:48 |
| kobold | I suppose if nobody depends on zope.filerepresentation, it is not needed | 22:48 |
| Theuni1 | kobold: for BW you need it | 22:50 |
| Theuni1 | otherwise people will have incompatible competing symbols in their environment | 22:50 |
| Theuni1 | so, e.g. adapter lookups won't match | 22:50 |
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| kobold | Theuni1: yep, you are right; but zope.container wouldn't pull it in anymore, which is what we want | 22:51 |
| Theuni1 | right, but people might still depend on it | 22:51 |
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