IRC log of #zope for Thursday, 2010-03-11

gileshshi there, we have been using zope for some time and have quite a large web app running using it. We are desparate to get the code into svn and manage the code via file system. is there anyone who might be able to point me in the right direction be it channel for discussion or resource. we have looked at using ftp but this is not ideal.00:00
betabuggileshs: so you mean that the web ab has been developed in the ZMI?00:01
betabugif so, no easy solution00:01
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gileshsyes so far00:02
gileshsI could not see any real alternatives except moving to a product which looks like it would take forever00:03
betabugTTW-applications are not something that lends itself to source code management - that's one of the reasons people switched to writing zope products that have their code on the file system00:03
betabugyou could mount the zodb using webDAV, but I doubt that you'd get a clean solution out of that for your use case00:04
gileshswe did look at that and ftp which is our current best attempt. in your experience would moving it over to a product be worth while or be like starting from scratch again?00:05
gileshssystem uses python modules, external scripts and all sorts00:05
betabugin my experience, a zope product solves many problems, not just that one00:05
betabugbut how easy it is to move to a product depends on a lot of things, e.g. how the "architecture" of your app is etc.00:06
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betabugcan't really say much00:06
betabugthe 2 times I've moved medium to large applications from "TTW" to products, things were mingled with new feature requests and a switch in application logic00:07
betabugso it was never only the move00:07
betabug(for me)00:07
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gileshsthanks very much for your advice, I guess I need to read up on product development00:07
betabuggood idea anyway00:08
betabugoh, one more thing: sometimes you can get away with not moving everything at once00:08
betabugbuild a little product for one part of the app, then another for another part00:08
betabughelps building confidence too00:09
gileshsmakes good sense!00:09
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gileshsis the developer guide the best place to start or are there better tutorials?00:10
betabughmmm, I don't really know00:10
betabugI've put some resources on wiki.zope.org/zope2/ZopeStarter00:10
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betabugbut it seems some stuff is constantly changing and I'm not following it to close00:11
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gileshsI really appreciate you taking the time out to point me in the right direction, having visited this topic a few times and given up for going round in circles at least now I have proper direction...!00:12
betabugyou're welcome and good luck!00:13
gileshsthanks00:13
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imgreyanyone alive ?12:32
imgreyhave someone used buildout ?12:32
imgreyhow to remove something from fake eggs ?12:32
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