| gileshs | hi there, we have been using zope for some time and have quite a large web app running using it. We are desparate to get the code into svn and manage the code via file system. is there anyone who might be able to point me in the right direction be it channel for discussion or resource. we have looked at using ftp but this is not ideal. | 00:00 |
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| betabug | gileshs: so you mean that the web ab has been developed in the ZMI? | 00:01 |
| betabug | if so, no easy solution | 00:01 |
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| gileshs | yes so far | 00:02 |
| gileshs | I could not see any real alternatives except moving to a product which looks like it would take forever | 00:03 |
| betabug | TTW-applications are not something that lends itself to source code management - that's one of the reasons people switched to writing zope products that have their code on the file system | 00:03 |
| betabug | you could mount the zodb using webDAV, but I doubt that you'd get a clean solution out of that for your use case | 00:04 |
| gileshs | we did look at that and ftp which is our current best attempt. in your experience would moving it over to a product be worth while or be like starting from scratch again? | 00:05 |
| gileshs | system uses python modules, external scripts and all sorts | 00:05 |
| betabug | in my experience, a zope product solves many problems, not just that one | 00:05 |
| betabug | but how easy it is to move to a product depends on a lot of things, e.g. how the "architecture" of your app is etc. | 00:06 |
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| betabug | can't really say much | 00:06 |
| betabug | the 2 times I've moved medium to large applications from "TTW" to products, things were mingled with new feature requests and a switch in application logic | 00:07 |
| betabug | so it was never only the move | 00:07 |
| betabug | (for me) | 00:07 |
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| gileshs | thanks very much for your advice, I guess I need to read up on product development | 00:07 |
| betabug | good idea anyway | 00:08 |
| betabug | oh, one more thing: sometimes you can get away with not moving everything at once | 00:08 |
| betabug | build a little product for one part of the app, then another for another part | 00:08 |
| betabug | helps building confidence too | 00:09 |
| gileshs | makes good sense! | 00:09 |
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| gileshs | is the developer guide the best place to start or are there better tutorials? | 00:10 |
| betabug | hmmm, I don't really know | 00:10 |
| betabug | I've put some resources on wiki.zope.org/zope2/ZopeStarter | 00:10 |
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| betabug | but it seems some stuff is constantly changing and I'm not following it to close | 00:11 |
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| gileshs | I really appreciate you taking the time out to point me in the right direction, having visited this topic a few times and given up for going round in circles at least now I have proper direction...! | 00:12 |
| betabug | you're welcome and good luck! | 00:13 |
| gileshs | thanks | 00:13 |
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| imgrey | anyone alive ? | 12:32 |
| imgrey | have someone used buildout ? | 12:32 |
| imgrey | how to remove something from fake eggs ? | 12:32 |
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