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| CIA-83 | do3cc * r121416 Products.GenericSetup/ (3 files in 3 dirs): | 04:26 |
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| CIA-83 | Add handling for cases where a report for an import already exists. | 04:26 |
| CIA-83 | This can happen in fast tests. The code now starts incrementing an id | 04:26 |
| CIA-83 | until it has an unused id. | 04:26 |
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| kosh | hmm so far my tests with relstorage are not very good, with full site tests and single page tests with concurrency I am getting better performance with zeo and zope 2.13 then with relstorage connecting to postgres | 13:25 |
| kosh | all tests run locally, I even added memcached for relstorage to use | 13:25 |
| betabug | interesting | 13:25 |
| betabug | I thought relstorage was supposed to be faster? | 13:25 |
| betabug | or did I remember that wrong? | 13:25 |
| kosh | supposed to be and their benchmarks show it is faster also | 13:25 |
| kosh | it took about 5 hours to convert a 2G database from filestorge to relstorage and everything seems to be working right but it runs slower | 13:26 |
| kosh | maybe relstorage last was tested again filestore before zope 2.13 | 13:26 |
| kosh | zope 2.13 zeo got a LOT faster then it was before | 13:27 |
| betabug | are there any settings or stuff to tune? | 13:27 |
| kosh | there are no docs for tuning it so all I have are the default settings it has | 13:27 |
| betabug | ah | 13:27 |
| kosh | I did some looking online and found squat information for it | 13:27 |
| kosh | it is all connecting locally over localhost | 13:28 |
| kosh | so the only difference between zeo and relstorage is which db it is connecting to but same machine | 13:28 |
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| betabug | hmm | 13:35 |
| betabug | well, ofcoz "fast" is not the only usecase for relstorage | 13:35 |
| kosh | have you had any experience with it, so far I have not even figured out what version of zeo they are doing their benchmarks against | 13:35 |
| betabug | 2.8 probably :-) | 13:35 |
| kosh | well it was supposed to be more concurrent then zeo | 13:35 |
| betabug | no, haven't had any use for relstorage | 13:35 |
| kosh | and so far my tests are that it is not | 13:36 |
| betabug | you can do failover easier etc. if your DBA already has all this set up | 13:36 |
| betabug | so I guess for some people it just fits better into what they already use | 13:36 |
| kosh | so far though the setup feels more fragile | 13:37 |
| kosh | all the complexity to set it up | 13:37 |
| betabug | yes, obviously | 13:40 |
| betabug | for some company that is all wired to SQL that may look different though | 13:41 |
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| kosh | it just seems to have a lot more moving parts, the failover part would be nice though | 13:43 |
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| kosh | the test script they have to performance testing did not work right so I have gutted it | 13:48 |
| kosh | mysql would not compile and since I am not using mysql I removed all of those tests | 13:48 |
| kosh | it is using the latest zodb at least | 13:48 |
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| kosh | ooh with the latest zeo the numbers it has show that zeo adds faster, updates faster, and it basically tied at all other levels | 13:50 |
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| kosh | as concurrency goes up in the tests so far zeo and postgres still run neck and neck | 13:51 |
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| kosh | the more connections to the same server at the same time the more postgres gains compared to zeo but at 4 they are still pretty much the same | 13:57 |
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| kosh | what is strange is this benchmark shows that relstorage should be the same or a little faster if this benchmark is representative of my load | 13:57 |
| kosh | of 4 connections to the same server but it actually runs slower | 13:57 |
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| kosh | so far one thing relstorage has done is that sharing the session through postgres instead of temporarystorage for zeo has involved no unresolved readconflicterrors | 14:01 |
| betabug | that's nice | 14:02 |
| kosh | temporarystorage for zeo is not file backed, so all ram based just like the regular session stuff, just shared over zeo | 14:02 |
| kosh | however I have never seen one of those readconflicterrors on my live servers | 14:02 |
| kosh | only in ab testing when I tell ab to run 100 or more connections at the same time | 14:02 |
| kosh | so it is nice not to have it happen but also not an actual issue in practice so far | 14:03 |
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| kosh | betabug: if I figure out how to make it work better I will tell you | 14:24 |
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| betabug | sure | 14:27 |
| kosh | the load on my servers has gone down a fair bit since I put the unique urls in for all images, files, javascript and css files :) | 14:33 |
| kosh | you should definitely look into doing it | 14:33 |
| betabug | yeah | 14:33 |
| kosh | such an easy idea, too bad zope does not have that built in by default | 14:33 |
| betabug | once I finish with this unicode stuff | 14:33 |
| kosh | the other thing I did today was create a nice little script that reads about 10 zip files an extracts the js and css files from them that I need, combines them to single files, minimizes them, compresses them, uploads them to amazon and then sets all the appropriate caching times | 14:35 |
| kosh | so whenever I need to add a new lib to my standard set of javascript I just add the zip file to the list and what files in it I need and the code will autorebuild the files, so what took 20-30 minutes before now takes < 1 minute | 14:35 |
| CIA-83 | ldr * r121417 plone.z3cform/ (docs/HISTORY.txt plone/z3cform/traversal.py): | 14:41 |
| CIA-83 | Only search a group's widgets if they exist. collective.z3cform.wizard doesn't | 14:41 |
| CIA-83 | create widgets for pages/groups other than the current one. | 14:41 |
| betabug | my apps here aren't really performance intensive in that respect | 14:48 |
| betabug | biggest bottleneck is the lame adsl connection that some local data is served from | 14:48 |
| kosh | ah ok | 14:48 |
| kosh | well if you build larger systems consider it | 14:48 |
| betabug | yupp | 14:48 |
| kosh | files that you don't serve also are not a load on zope | 14:48 |
| betabug | since I'm starting to freelance now, it might come along :-) | 14:48 |
| kosh | and that allows you to still allow people to use zope to manage the files and give great caching | 14:49 |
| betabug | yeah :-) | 14:50 |
| kosh | later I am going to update my system so that the customer can choose to transfer files to amazon | 14:50 |
| kosh | I will give them a nice unique id over there with a huge caching time | 14:50 |
| kosh | and when the customer updates the file on zope what it will do is delete the old one on amazon and add the new one | 14:50 |
| kosh | just have to figure out a good design for making it work | 14:51 |
| kosh | the only real problem is if people bookmark those urls which would become invalid | 14:51 |
| kosh | mostly though I want to use it for resource files | 14:53 |
| kosh | video/audio type of stuff where you can bookmark the url of the page in the browser but people don't go find the video and bookmark that directly | 14:53 |
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| kosh | that way people only download those once | 14:53 |
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| CIA-83 | jim * r121418 ZODB/src/ZEO/tests/test_cache.py: | 19:33 |
| CIA-83 | Added renomalizing to deal w spurious error due to rounding | 19:33 |
| CIA-83 | difference. | 19:33 |
| CIA-83 | shane * r121419 CompositePage/slot.py: Integrated a simple patch from CompositePack. | 19:33 |
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| Gogo|gui | Hello, every 01! | 21:30 |
| Gogo|gui | I'm investigating an intrusion on an unpatched plone site. Right now I am looking at the ZMI undo log and I have a question: Does a user "None" suggest, that the user who made the transaction has been deleted? | 21:31 |
| Gogo|gui | And question #2 - could i get any user ID from ZODB (_p_jar and friends) even if the user has been deleted (asuming Q1 is True) | 21:34 |
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