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| lukasg|4tw | hey - I'd like to use zc.monitor / zc.z3monitor with my zope instance | 14:23 | 
| lukasg|4tw | I've added a <product-config zc.z3monitor> stanza in my zope.conf and included zc.u3cmonitor's zcml with zcml-additional in my buildout | 14:24 | 
| lukasg|4tw | however, I don't see how I'm supposed to actually start the monitor as a network service on the defined port | 14:25 | 
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| wosc | lukasg|4tw: the monitor should start automatically together with your server | 14:26 | 
| lukasg|4tw | wosc, that's what I expected - however it doesn't (tested with telnet 127.0.0.1 <port> and had a look at netstat) | 14:27 | 
| lukasg|4tw | wosc, but thanks for making that clear | 14:27 | 
| wosc | with a Zope3-based server I get a log message on startup like this | 14:28 | 
| wosc | 2011-06-27T10:40:15 INFO zc.ngi.async.server listening on ('', 18080) | 14:29 | 
| lukasg|4tw | ah, I definitely don't get that, I was watching out for sth like that | 14:29 | 
| lukasg|4tw | but I guess I can't use zc.z3monitor with Zope2 + Five? | 14:29 | 
| * wosc isn't too well-versed in Zope2-land | 14:29 | |
| wosc | so my answer is a definitive "it depends" ;) | 14:30 | 
| lukasg|4tw | gotcha ;) | 14:30 | 
| wosc | but the fact that it's called z3monitor might suggest it uses zope3-internals | 14:31 | 
| wosc | that might or might not have been ported in the meantime | 14:31 | 
| wosc | sorry I can't be of more help | 14:31 | 
| lukasg|4tw | Yeah, it also says "Zope 3" on the pypi site - I also tried zc.monitor only though, which is supposed to be Zope2 | 14:31 | 
| lukasg|4tw | wosc, np, knowing how it's *supposed* to work already helps me a lot | 14:32 | 
| wosc | I think zc.monitor is only infrastructure | 14:32 | 
| lukasg|4tw | I got to review my configuration again I guess | 14:32 | 
| wosc | that enables to open a network port and offer a "console" thingy on it | 14:32 | 
| wosc | from reading the pypi page I don't think it tells you anything about your zope server | 14:32 | 
| wosc | (which I guess is what you want) | 14:32 | 
| lukasg|4tw | well, in the end I want to use it to get info about my zc.async queues / jobs | 14:33 | 
| wosc | could "bin/zopectl debug" help? | 14:33 | 
| lukasg|4tw | yeah, it actually does. I can get my queues from the ZODB that way and inspect them | 14:34 | 
| lukasg|4tw | however it's a bit cumbersome and not too well suited for a production site ;) | 14:34 | 
| wosc | can't argue with that | 14:35 | 
| lukasg|4tw | Well, I'll see if I can get it to work | 14:35 | 
| lukasg|4tw | Thanks for your help! | 14:35 | 
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| rockfruit | My view (I'm doing a 'print XXX' in __init__) is being called twice for a single page view, once from line 81 and once from line 89 of ZPublisher/BaseRequest.py (zope 2.12.17) - How can I figure out why? At that level it's a bit too complex for my head. A simple test view doesn't do this, and I can't track it down... | 21:16 | 
| TresEquis | rockfruit, line 81 is the call to '__bobo_traverse__' on the object currently being traversed | 21:18 | 
| TresEquis | so your object's __bobotraverse__ tries to instantiate your view | 21:19 | 
| TresEquis | and raises an attribute or key error | 21:19 | 
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| TresEquis | the publisher then tries the view lookup | 21:19 | 
| TresEquis | you could edit the code to put a 'pdb.set_trace()' in just above line 81, and step into __bobo_traverse__ to try to figure it out | 21:20 | 
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| rockfruit | I have so many questions... ok, I pdb now. thanks | 21:24 | 
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