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cypha | what's the difference btwn serving a webpage and serving an application? | 00:49 |
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mcdonc | cypha: no difference except usually an application *generates* a web page, while a "plain old web page" might be just a static file on disk | 00:51 |
mcdonc | the browser doesnt know or care of course | 00:52 |
cypha | mcdonc, ah, ok, so zope serves applications, creating dynamic webpages? | 00:54 |
mcdonc | yeah... but to be honest, the name "application server" (which i assume you've read somewhere to prompt you to ask this question) is really a *marketing* term, not a technical one | 00:55 |
mcdonc | so it really means not much | 00:56 |
mcdonc | any system which serves up web pages dynamically is technically an "application server" | 00:56 |
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cypha | oh, ok, thanks for clearing that up | 00:57 |
TresEquis | appserver usually implies that the code you write is a "plugin" to the AS | 00:58 |
TresEquis | even CGI could be construed like that: the contract is "I give you environ + stdin, you give me stdout" | 00:58 |
TresEquis | most appservers have a somewhat more elaborate contract :) | 00:59 |
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krish1 | how to resolve a broken object, error in zodb3 | 07:28 |
krish1 | any one please help me out | 07:28 |
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rokka_ | any help to my question for yesterday? | 12:00 |
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kosh | rokka_: what was your question from yesterday? | 16:17 |
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rokka_ | kosh: Is it possible to add custom object to ZODB from a python script created with ZMI? | 23:46 |
rokka_ | context.root['foo'] = 'bar' | 23:47 |
rokka_ | or something | 23:47 |
rokka_ | with zope2 that comes with plone4 | 23:47 |
kosh | as long as the object is defined outside of the python script | 23:51 |
kosh | but you can't define a custom object type inside a python script and add taht type to the system | 23:51 |
rokka_ | oh.. :o | 23:52 |
kosh | how to open a python object again later is part of the definition | 23:53 |
kosh | if that definition is inside a python script it would not realy work to open it later | 23:53 |
rokka_ | where can i define it | 23:53 |
kosh | if you want to do stuff with plone though you will need to define the object the plone way but you can add them with a script | 23:53 |
kosh | and I have no idea how plone defines new object types | 23:53 |
rokka_ | no i don't need plone | 23:53 |
kosh | so you want to add something to pure zope2 and not have it interact with plone? | 23:54 |
rokka_ | ype | 23:54 |
rokka_ | yep | 23:54 |
rokka_ | i want to do similar than with php+mysql but with zope2+python+zodb | 23:55 |
rokka_ | should be simpler with zodb than with relational databases..? | 23:55 |
kosh | it is different, I find it simpler but I have been doing it for a very long time | 23:56 |
rokka_ | ok.. i have read some tutorials but there is so much to write even to have a simple object.. :( like interfaces and stuff.. | 23:57 |
kosh | I don't use any interfaces | 23:57 |
rokka_ | i would like to do app like in http://docs.zope.org/zope2/zope2book/BasicObject.html#creating-a-basic-zope-application-using-page-templates-and-scripts | 23:58 |
rokka_ | + inside python script that handles form data i would like to save that data to zodb somehow | 23:59 |
kosh | saving it to the zodb requires a content object of some kind to save it in | 23:59 |
kosh | a lot of the docs on doing that I don't see anymore | 23:59 |
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