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| ignas | can someone please sacrifice the one who wrote quetrymultiadapter machinery to some inca god please? | 18:32 |
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| Theuni | ? | 18:33 |
| ignas | Supay sounds nice :) | 18:35 |
| ignas | there is not sane way to make your adapter morespecific than any other adapter that do exist .. | 18:38 |
| ignas | and rules that do the determination are like - unpredictable | 18:38 |
| Theuni | there should be some slides and documentaton around that explain those rules | 18:40 |
| Theuni | AAIK they comply to the method lookup rules of inheritance | 18:41 |
| ignas | well, they do not ;) | 18:41 |
| ignas | or at least they do it in some unexplainable way ... | 18:42 |
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| mgedmin | ignas, do you have a small reproducible example of the problem? | 18:43 |
| ignas | reproducible yes, small - no ... | 18:44 |
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| ignas | i can try and hack and slash one | 18:44 |
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| ignas | but i guess i'll look into it a bit more | 18:51 |
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| _projekt01 | ignas, take a look at zope.interface.adapters.txt it's all described there. | 18:57 |
| _projekt01 | There is no way to make the adapter more specific then another | 18:57 |
| ignas | sorry | 18:57 |
| _projekt01 | You can use a interface form your class where is more specific then another interface | 18:58 |
| ignas | the problem was so far away from the sypthom ;) | 18:58 |
| ignas | i wrote my own request class even, yet the skin was being applied and making my request implement browser request ... | 18:58 |
| ignas | so even though the adapter was designed for IRESTRequest the subscriber was making IBrowserRequest more specific than anything else ... | 18:59 |
| ignas | and chosing another adapter instead ... | 19:00 |
| _projekt01 | Did you use class IRESTRequest(IBrowserRequest): | 19:03 |
| ignas | nope | 19:03 |
| ignas | IRESTRequest(IHTTPRequest) | 19:03 |
| _projekt01 | This should work | 19:04 |
| ignas | no it would not ... | 19:04 |
| _projekt01 | Why? | 19:04 |
| ignas | the IBrowserRequest is added to the begining of the list ... | 19:04 |
| _projekt01 | Where? | 19:04 |
| ignas | in applySkin ... | 19:04 |
| _projekt01 | You try to define a layer? Right? | 19:05 |
| ignas | i guess, it am don't know that part of the code very well .. | 19:06 |
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| ignas | if ISchoolBellApplication.providedBy(event.object): applySkin(event.request, ISchoolBellSkin) is the buggy line ... | 19:07 |
| ignas | i should have checked whether the request is ob BrowserRequest type ... | 19:07 |
| _projekt01 | Why do you apply the skin? | 19:08 |
| ignas | the layer implements IBrowserRequest too ... that migh be the problem | 19:08 |
| ignas | _projekt01, what do you mean "why" ? | 19:09 |
| _projekt01 | Do you like to force the ISchoolBell skin, or avoid the access of other skins? | 19:10 |
| ignas | sorry, i really wish i could tell you that, yet i don't know the exact reason ... | 19:10 |
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| _projekt01 | Ah, someting doesn't work and you don't know why? | 19:11 |
| ignas | might be because schoolbell is running as a more or less standalone app, not as a zope component ... | 19:11 |
| _projekt01 | Yup, sure | 19:12 |
| ignas | now everything works though | 19:12 |
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| _projekt01 | regebro, perhaps you can explain it better | 19:12 |
| regebro | OK, hang on... I'll read through the discussion. | 19:13 |
| _projekt01 | ignas, do you try to run SchoolBell in the Rotterdam skin? | 19:14 |
| ignas | _projekt01, no | 19:14 |
| _projekt01 | What do you try to do? | 19:14 |
| regebro | _project01, ignasm No, sorry, I don't understand the question. | 19:14 |
| ignas | regebro, well there are no unansewered questions left at themoment | 19:14 |
| regebro | OK. | 19:14 |
| ignas | as i said sorry, the bug was mine ;) | 19:14 |
| ignas | thank you :) | 19:15 |
| _projekt01 | ignas, doesn't matter, just ask if you have other questions. That's useal that not all will work right out of the box ;-) | 19:16 |
| mgedmin | _projekt01, we had a BeforeTraversalEvent subscriber | 19:17 |
| _projekt01 | Take also a look at zope.interface.adapters.txt for more info about adapters. It's well documented. | 19:17 |
| _projekt01 | Yup | 19:17 |
| mgedmin | that applied our skin when traversing ISchoolBellApplication | 19:17 |
| _projekt01 | And this adapter applys the skin. right | 19:17 |
| mgedmin | this had the unexpected side effect of coverting HTTP requests into Browser requests | 19:18 |
| mgedmin | that was the bug | 19:18 |
| _projekt01 | Why do you use the HTTPRequest? That's not a good idea! | 19:18 |
| _projekt01 | I guess you need a clean layer instead. | 19:19 |
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| _projekt01 | Btw, that's not this easy! | 19:19 |
| mgedmin | we need both browser requests for end users | 19:19 |
| mgedmin | and HTTP requests for applications | 19:20 |
| _projekt01 | Why do you apply a Skin to the HTTPRequest? | 19:20 |
| mgedmin | RESTive interface on a different port | 19:20 |
| mgedmin | why? because of a bug | 19:20 |
| _projekt01 | I don't think IBeforeTraverEvent should apply a skin to the HTTPRequest. | 19:21 |
| _projekt01 | Is this what's happen? | 19:21 |
| ignas | yes, but it was not ment to be so now it is fixed | 19:21 |
| _projekt01 | Oh, that's not nice. | 19:22 |
| _projekt01 | Do we really need a skin applied to the HTTPRequest? I don't think so? | 19:23 |
| _projekt01 | Or I'm wrong? | 19:23 |
| _projekt01 | I think a HTTPRequest is only a interaction between the client and server without UI stuff, right? | 19:24 |
| ignas | yes you are right | 19:24 |
| _projekt01 | mgedmin, can you take a look at it? Or should I do it later this night? | 19:25 |
| ignas | you mean fix the applySkin | 19:25 |
| ignas | of zope itself | 19:25 |
| _projekt01 | Yup | 19:25 |
| _projekt01 | ignas, can you add a issue to the bugtracker for this. I'm not sure if I have time tonight. | 19:27 |
| ignas | i can i guess | 19:27 |
| _projekt01 | But this should get fixed for the release 3.1 | 19:27 |
| _projekt01 | Cool, thanks for reporting this. | 19:27 |
| _projekt01 | Write also that this issue is related to the SchoolBell, perhaps it usuable for reproduceing the bug | 19:29 |
| mgedmin | hmm | 19:30 |
| _projekt01 | ? | 19:30 |
| mgedmin | is it the job of applySkin to make sure the request is IBrowserRequest? | 19:30 |
| mgedmin | I think it is the job of the caller | 19:30 |
| _projekt01 | I think so too | 19:31 |
| ignas | so what's the bug ? | 19:31 |
| _projekt01 | It's just happen in the wrong place. | 19:31 |
| ignas | ? | 19:33 |
| _projekt01 | At least the IBeforeTraversalEvent adapter shouldn't applySkin for HTTPRequest. | 19:33 |
| ignas | yes, yet these are written in the code of our application ... | 19:34 |
| ignas | or there are a few in zope ? | 19:34 |
| _projekt01 | Our application? | 19:35 |
| ignas | schoolbell, or any other project we are using IBeforeTraversalEvent to apply skin | 19:36 |
| _projekt01 | But not for the HTTPRequest! | 19:37 |
| * mgedmin sighs | 19:37 | |
| ignas | it's not the fault of the framework, and the only fix i can see is - a warning near definition of applySkin | 19:37 |
| _projekt01 | Why a warrning? HTTPRequest don't use skin. | 19:38 |
| mgedmin | I've a different problem here | 19:38 |
| ignas | ? | 19:38 |
| mgedmin | overrides_ftesting.zcml won't let me override a mailer utility | 19:38 |
| mgedmin | oh, I see | 19:39 |
| mgedmin | I already override it in overrides.zcml | 19:39 |
| mgedmin | so two overrides conflict | 19:39 |
| mgedmin | my error, never mind | 19:39 |
| ignas | allways glad to help :) | 19:39 |
| _projekt01 | Ok, I have to go to dinner. | 19:40 |
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| jules | Should my buddydemo goodies (from the pdf) go in my_new_instance/lib/python ? | 23:03 |
| jules | ConfigurationError: ('Invalid value for', 'package', "Couldn't import buddydemo, No module named buddydemo") | 23:04 |
| * jules didn't check out from source | 23:04 | |
| jules | Well, it's back to Zope 2 then. | 23:57 |
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