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| philiKON | w0000t | 13:02 |
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| philiKON | modzope works | 13:03 |
| philiKON | using wsgi | 13:03 |
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| philiKON | srichter, modzope works using wsgi! | 13:44 |
| srichter | yipee! :-) | 13:44 |
| philiKON | though i can't get it to act as a zeo client | 13:44 |
| srichter | I don't know what that means | 13:45 |
| srichter | ok, gotta reboot | 13:46 |
| srichter | my sony keys stopped working :-( | 13:47 |
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| philiKON | srichter, unless you use a threaded MPM in apache, multiple python interpreters are started (one for each process). the best way to deal with that situation is to have each one act as a zeoclient to a common zeo instance, so that they share the same zodb storage | 14:20 |
| srichter | I see | 14:21 |
| philiKON | right now, i'm using the worker MPM (threaded + fork model), but only with one process and multiple threads | 14:21 |
| philiKON | and filestorage | 14:21 |
| philiKON | multiple processes might not be good idea for another reason, though | 14:22 |
| philiKON | for each new process spawned, another zope 3 instance needs to be started | 14:22 |
| philiKON | which means the whole zcml config tree is loaded | 14:22 |
| philiKON | so, in the end, i might have to go with the threaded model anyways (although I've read there are subtle problems with it) | 14:22 |
| philiKON | anyway, i'd like to be able to use modzope as an apache client, whether it's necessary or not... | 14:23 |
| philiKON | debugging zeo is hard, though | 14:23 |
| philiKON | (mainly because debugging threads is hard) | 14:23 |
| srichter | yeah | 14:25 |
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| mooded | hmm.. away-msg spam.. | 15:33 |
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| J1m | srichter, ayt | 16:23 |
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| C8N | hello | 18:54 |
| srichter | hi | 18:55 |
| C8N | hi steph | 18:56 |
| srichter | C8N: what's up? Time to play again? :-) | 19:04 |
| C8N | yup. erar time to play :) | 19:05 |
| C8N | ever, sorry | 19:05 |
| C8N | btw, referring to the hypotetical z3-app sprint in turin italy | 19:06 |
| C8N | my company sayd ni :( | 19:06 |
| srichter | ok | 19:06 |
| srichter | oh well | 19:06 |
| C8N | too earl, sayd my boss | 19:07 |
| C8N | but | 19:07 |
| C8N | i've contacted giuseppe adel masini | 19:07 |
| C8N | owner of zope.it also from turin | 19:07 |
| srichter | cool | 19:08 |
| C8N | and federico fog de gregorio (psychopg, pyorde), owner of initd.org, from turin too | 19:08 |
| C8N | and debian italia speechman | 19:08 |
| srichter | so you all could start working on Zope 3 together | 19:09 |
| srichter | and then get Debian to use Zope 3, like Ubunu | 19:09 |
| C8N | and luca ldw de vitis, debian packager for zope | 19:09 |
| C8N | yep | 19:09 |
| C8N | they seem very excited, let's hope we can do something of it | 19:10 |
| srichter | yeah, did you suggest doing something concrete? | 19:11 |
| C8N | i've send a mail with some date proposal for a pizza (zopyzza) | 19:12 |
| srichter | ? | 19:12 |
| C8N | i hope we meet together in front of a big birra and pizza, and plan something concrete, yes | 19:12 |
| C8N | pizza is a flat dish of bread with tomato and cheese | 19:13 |
| C8N | birra is beer | 19:13 |
| C8N | zopyzza is the contraction of zope, python an pizza | 19:13 |
| C8N | meaning pizza meeting for zope and python developrs | 19:14 |
| srichter | :-) | 19:15 |
| srichter | I knew what birra and pizza were, though ;-) | 19:15 |
| C8N | ehehehe i was sure | 19:19 |
| C8N | just poking | 19:19 |
| C8N | (i don't know any deutsche not knowin' pizza and birra) | 19:20 |
| C8N | btw, ehm, i've got to ask u a question | 19:20 |
| C8N | maybe in query.. can i? | 19:21 |
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| J1m | srichter, ayt? | 21:18 |
| srichter | J1m: yeah | 21:18 |
| srichter | but I am here with Itamar | 21:18 |
| J1m | Have a minute for a question? | 21:18 |
| srichter | sure | 21:18 |
| J1m | in zope.component.__init__ | 21:19 |
| J1m | when defining adapters | 21:19 |
| J1m | we have: | 21:19 |
| J1m | if IFactory.providedBy(factory): | 21:19 |
| J1m | provides = factory.getInterfaces() | 21:19 |
| J1m | do you know where that came from? | 21:19 |
| J1m | I'd really like to get rid of IFactory. | 21:19 |
| srichter | what do you mean where does this come from? | 21:20 |
| J1m | I don't know who wrote that code. | 21:20 |
| J1m | I assumed you did. | 21:20 |
| J1m | But I don't know what the motivation for it is. | 21:20 |
| srichter | hold on, I am opening the file | 21:20 |
| J1m | for example, line 318 | 21:21 |
| srichter | I did not write getFactoriesFor | 21:21 |
| J1m | I'm talking about provideAdapter | 21:21 |
| srichter | and I did not write provideAdapter() :-) | 21:22 |
| srichter | I thought you did :-) | 21:22 |
| srichter | so I did not put that in there either | 21:22 |
| J1m | I did, but I don't think I had that IFactory crap. | 21:22 |
| srichter | but it makes sense :-) | 21:22 |
| srichter | LOL | 21:22 |
| J1m | It doesn't make sense to me. | 21:23 |
| srichter | why? | 21:23 |
| srichter | if you really have a factory object, you really wanna know what the created object provides | 21:23 |
| srichter | not what the factory implements | 21:23 |
| J1m | IFactory is an ancient burnt offering to support factories | 21:23 |
| srichter | then deprecate it | 21:23 |
| J1m | I will eventually | 21:24 |
| srichter | though getFactoriesFor is a nice API function I bet many use | 21:24 |
| J1m | IFactory was never intended for adapters | 21:24 |
| srichter | just remove it and wait for someone to scream :-) | 21:24 |
| C8N | LoL | 21:24 |
| J1m | It was for the old factory concept, as in for createObject. | 21:24 |
| srichter | right | 21:24 |
| srichter | I know | 21:25 |
| J1m | But somebody probably added this code for a reason. | 21:25 |
| J1m | OK, anyway, you don't know about it. | 21:25 |
| srichter | nope, I don't | 21:25 |
| srichter | ok, back to twisting my mind in zope 3 | 21:26 |
| C8N | J1m: svn blame didn't help? | 21:26 |
| J1m | No, it blames srichter and myself | 21:26 |
| C8N | ehehehe | 21:26 |
| J1m | I'll probably try to take this code out and see if any tests fail. | 21:27 |
| C8N | and drilling down to the referenced revision? | 21:27 |
| J1m | I'd have to go past that. | 21:27 |
| J1m | oh well, I'll figure it out | 21:29 |
| J1m | later | 21:29 |
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| J1m | srichter, you did add that code | 21:35 |
| srichter | really? | 21:35 |
| srichter | I cannot recall; maybe something broke? | 21:36 |
| J1m | yes, in 29143 | 21:36 |
| srichter | mmh, no clue | 21:36 |
| * C8N gives J1m a whip... | 21:39 | |
| J1m | :) | 21:40 |
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| MistaTopfa | hi | 22:25 |
| C8N | hello | 22:26 |
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