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| VladDrac | jay! | 11:58 |
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| * VladDrac wanted to implement something, thought up what would be the zope3 way to do it (using an adapter), implemented it | 11:59 | |
| VladDrac | and it works! | 11:59 |
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| * VladDrac is trying to find the zope3 way of writing a generic form + template | 14:39 | |
| VladDrac | in CMF/Plone you can just implement a form, some pythonscript, optionally use CMFFormController | 14:39 |
| VladDrac | I wonder if I have to encapsulate my form action into a utility first | 14:39 |
| VladDrac | (most stuff until now was just generated) | 14:39 |
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| * VladDrac is having a relatively good Zope3 day | 15:28 | |
| srichter | I told you you would be productive soon ;-) | 15:33 |
| * MrTopf is again buried in client work.. | 15:35 | |
| MacYET | shoot the client | 15:35 |
| MrTopf | shooting the client is like shooting myself at some point ;-) | 15:35 |
| MacYET | first get the gun, then get the customers money and then kill 'im | 15:36 |
| MrTopf | try to get some z3 playing done at the weekend | 15:36 |
| * MacYET heads for a textindexng 3 release | 15:36 | |
| VladDrac | hurray | 15:36 |
| * faassen has developed evil plans to use Zope 3 tech for client work. :) | 15:37 | |
| * MacYET starts writing his first adapter | 15:38 | |
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| MacYET | faassen: how do i model the following with five: TXNG expects that objects implement IIndexable to be indexed by TXNG. Plone objects don't implement that interface. Can I tie somehow adapters to classes instead to interfaces? | 15:43 |
| VladDrac | you can configure zcml to link interfaces to plone content, right? | 15:45 |
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| MacYET | plone content has interfaces? :-) | 15:45 |
| MacYET | maybe with ATCT | 15:45 |
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| VladDrac | use <bridge> perhaps? | 15:46 |
| * VladDrac 's not familiar enough with five | 15:46 | |
| VladDrac | hmm wait | 15:46 |
| VladDrac | <implements | 15:46 |
| VladDrac | class="Products.CMFDefault.Document.Document" | 15:46 |
| VladDrac | interface=".interfaces.IDublinCore" | 15:46 |
| VladDrac | /> | 15:46 |
| VladDrac | but you don't want to define this explicitly for all content I assume | 15:47 |
| faassen | MacYET: you can adapt classes, but you could also use five:interface to tel them what interface they have, or use the aforementioned five:bridge | 15:47 |
| faassen | MacYET: look at how Five deals introduces Zope 3 interfaces. | 15:47 |
| MacYET | k | 15:47 |
| faassen | MacYET: or look at how CMFonFive, I believe, might use bridge to convert Z2 interfaces into Z3 ones. | 15:47 |
| faassen | MacYET: possibly that's five:implements, I always mix them up. :) | 15:47 |
| MacYET | most plone contenttypes don't have any interface :) | 15:47 |
| MacYET | except ICrap | 15:48 |
| * MacYET hides | 15:48 | |
| faassen | then you invent them yourself, perhaps marker ones. | 15:48 |
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| faassen | I'm not a plone hacker, I'm fine with you saying it's ICrap. :) | 15:48 |
| faassen | faassen: anyway, follow the pattern we use inside five to tell Zope 2 that it has Zope 3 interfaces. | 15:48 |
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| VladDrac | if my interface defines a field 'foo', is an object implementing the appropriate attribute required to name it 'foo' as well? | 16:27 |
| mexiKON | of course | 16:28 |
| VladDrac | ok, so class bar: implements(IFoo) \n blah = FieldAttribute(IFoo['foo']) should not occur | 16:29 |
| mexiKON | right; it wouldn't make much sense anyway | 16:29 |
| VladDrac | and, therefor, from an adapter that adapts IFoo I can assume the field foo will be available as self.context.foo | 16:30 |
| VladDrac | mexikon: it doesn't, just want to be sure - there's nothing (except common sense) from doing it, right? | 16:30 |
| mexiKON | well, IFoo describes an api | 16:31 |
| mexiKON | by saying implements(IFoo), a class promises that contract | 16:31 |
| mexiKON | the 'foo' attr is part of the contract | 16:32 |
| mexiKON | so, you'd be violating the contract (and not be compliant with the IFoo api) | 16:32 |
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| VladDrac | is it possible to define a zmi action for a (site) folder and all its subfolders? | 16:45 |
| srichter | hdima: yeah, test 29 is incorrect | 16:45 |
| VladDrac | and (related to me) how do I get the url for the nearest sitefolder? | 16:45 |
| * VladDrac isn't used to not having implicit acquisition | 16:45 | |
| * MacYET takes the stick | 16:46 | |
| srichter | I think this is: getSiteManager(location) | 16:47 |
| srichter | in zope.component | 16:47 |
| srichter | also in zapi, I assume | 16:47 |
| VladDrac | no shortcuts available in any skin macros? | 16:52 |
| srichter | I don't think so | 16:53 |
| srichter | your view class should handle such logic anyway | 16:53 |
| srichter | ZPTs should never contain logic | 16:53 |
| MacYET | any plans to tie browserview classes to a dedicated interface and permission and make the zcml configuration a bit easier? | 16:54 |
| mexiKON | you can use adapts() | 16:54 |
| mexiKON | (in zope 3.1) | 16:55 |
| hdima | srichter: Ok. tal code is so hard to understand... %-) | 16:57 |
| mexiKON | hdima, tal code makes you fall on your knees and cry | 16:57 |
| srichter | hdima: I think you are a brave man for trying to fix the problem! :-) | 16:57 |
| srichter | hdima: I have never done anything productive on the code, just helped people find possible places for trouble | 16:58 |
| mexiKON | anyone fixing bugs in tal code should get the zope medal of tal honour | 16:58 |
| srichter | I agree | 16:58 |
| MacYET | purple heart medal | 16:58 |
| hdima | :) | 17:01 |
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| hdima | Maybe later I'll be ready for some refactorings in the code :)) | 17:02 |
| mexiKON | that code isn't worth the sweat | 17:03 |
| mexiKON | a spec-compliant rewrite would probably be quicker :) | 17:03 |
| hdima | ...but not now definitely %)) | 17:03 |
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| faassen | mexiKON: If people pay me I'll do a reimplementation on top of libxml2. :) | 17:24 |
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| VladDrac | zope3 has stopped being nice | 18:12 |
| VladDrac | it now dumps the same piece of zcml 4 times complainign about a conflict | 18:12 |
| VladDrac | hmm wait, it's 4 different times for 4 different attributes | 18:12 |
| VladDrac | trying to redefine folder permissions (because I derive from it) | 18:13 |
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| efge | VladDrac: btw does http://vanderwijk.info/Members/ivo/articles/ComplexSVNSetupFix still work well for you ? | 19:29 |
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| VladDrac | efge yes | 21:33 |
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