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| VladDrac | damn | 12:02 |
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| VladDrac | can't resolve this conflict | 12:02 |
| VladDrac | ah fixed | 12:12 |
| * VladDrac mixed up some interfaces and definitions | 12:12 | |
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| * VladDrac 's heard some negative remarks about 'registries' here - what's that all about? | 14:31 | |
| VladDrac | (to me a registry is just a utility where you register and lookup stuff) | 14:31 |
| philiKON | most of the time that's even unnecessary | 14:31 |
| philiKON | utilities in itself can most of the time the stuff you want to lookup | 14:32 |
| philiKON | so, you can use the utility lookup facility for a registry | 14:32 |
| srichter | VladDrac: often one utility is one element in your registry | 14:34 |
| srichter | for exampl, every database adapter instance is a utility providing IDatabaseAdapter | 14:34 |
| srichter | you can then say: getUtilitiesFor(IDatabaseAdapter) which will give you all DB adapter instances | 14:35 |
| VladDrac | ok | 14:37 |
| VladDrac | so why not getUtilitiesFor(ISmileyInterface)? :) | 14:37 |
| srichter | same idea | 14:38 |
| srichter | well, every smiley theme is a utility | 14:38 |
| srichter | but I decided that it would be too tedious if every smiley would be a utility as well | 14:38 |
| srichter | because a single smiley is looked up by smiley interface, theme interface and name | 14:39 |
| srichter | so I would have needed to create an interface for each theme | 14:39 |
| srichter | which I did not want to do | 14:39 |
| projekt01 | How do I lookup adapters for a class? I know I can register the adapter for classes as well, but that's not the case. | 15:07 |
| projekt01 | I have to check if I have to create a object if there will be a adapter otherwise I don't create the object form the class. | 15:07 |
| srichter | you lookup adapters for a class the same way as regular adapters | 15:14 |
| srichter | if you want to talk to the adapter registry directly via lookup(), then you need to get the specification for the class | 15:15 |
| srichter | simply check out how the registration for class adapters is done | 15:15 |
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| MacYET | anyone awake? | 15:21 |
| VladDrac | sorta | 15:23 |
| srichter | yeah | 15:24 |
| MacYET | :-) | 15:24 |
| MacYET | can i do the following easier: | 15:24 |
| MacYET | if Isomething.providedBy(obj) or zapi.queryAdapter(obj, ISomething):... | 15:25 |
| srichter | you can do just the latter | 15:29 |
| srichter | if obj provides ISomething, then ISomething(obj) will return obj | 15:30 |
| srichter | so in effect, you can do: | 15:30 |
| MacYET | so an object implementing IX adapts to itself? | 15:30 |
| srichter | if ISomething(obj): | 15:30 |
| srichter | yes | 15:30 |
| MacYET | tnx | 15:30 |
| MacYET | but ISomething.providedBy(obj) does not check if there any adapters? | 15:32 |
| srichter | of course not | 15:35 |
| MacYET | hm... | 15:37 |
| MacYET | if ISomething(obj):...sucks because it might raise an exception...ugly | 15:38 |
| srichter | then you need to use zapi.queryAdapter as you suggested before | 15:39 |
| srichter | which is effectively the above call, but with an exception handler | 15:39 |
| MacYET | but queryAdapter requires the 'name' attribute which is unknown to the application if someone resgisters an adapter under a certian name | 15:39 |
| srichter | well, everything is nameless | 15:41 |
| projekt01 | srichter, thanks I'll try this. | 15:42 |
| srichter | ISomething(obj) --> zapi.getAdapter(ISomething, obj, name='') | 15:42 |
| srichter | because it makes really no sense to ask: do you have any adapter for obj providing ISomething | 15:43 |
| MacYET | ah...Isomething(obj, None) works. | 15:43 |
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| * MacYET beats philiKON for his docs | 15:43 | |
| srichter | because you do not know the name | 15:43 |
| srichter | MacYET: oh, totally forgot about this Zope 3 extension to the feature :-) | 15:43 |
| * MacYET writes the everything-you-should-know-about-z3-book | 15:44 | |
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| MacYET | ok, got it working :) | 15:47 |
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| VladDrac | ok | 15:59 |
| * MacYET really starts to love z3 | 15:59 | |
| VladDrac | let's find out today if I can define dynamic constraints :) | 15:59 |
| VladDrac | if I derive from an interface (IContained) then I end up with an interface, right? | 16:20 |
| VladDrac | raise TypeError(iface_type, "is not an interface type") | 16:20 |
| VladDrac | zope.configuration.config.ConfigurationExecutionError: exceptions.TypeError: (<InterfaceClass cubic.core.interfaces.ICubicContentContained>, 'is not an interface type') | 16:20 |
| VladDrac | ok | 16:28 |
| VladDrac | if I explicitly implement the interface in my content type, it works, if I try to add the interface through zcml, it doesn't | 16:29 |
| VladDrac | stuff like this confuses me like hell | 16:29 |
| VladDrac | hmm okay I think I know what I'm doing wrong I guess | 16:30 |
| VladDrac | still confuses me though :) | 16:31 |
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| * VladDrac shoud use the introspector more often | 16:51 | |
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| philiKON | MacYET, what's wrong now | 18:01 |
| philiKON | MacYET, i'm pretty sure my book explains that if obj provides ISomething, ISomething(obj) will return obj | 18:02 |
| MacYET | at least i did not find it | 18:07 |
| srichter | the thing is that books are often not flexible enough for immediate needs | 18:15 |
| srichter | I think we need some sort of info-tidbit database that has a very good idex that can be searched | 18:16 |
| srichter | (like "Did you know?" for applications) | 18:16 |
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| srichter | hey, would anyone here be interested in coming to a Zope 3 sprint to Boston this summer? | 20:02 |
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