| jeru | good night all ... cu | 00:02 |
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| mkerrin | srichter: are you still there | 00:04 |
| srichter | mkerrin: yep | 00:05 |
| mkerrin | I have just gotten SFTP support working with Zope and I am about to add to the twisted branch if it is alright | 00:05 |
| philiKON | cool | 00:09 |
| srichter | mkerrin: yipee! | 00:19 |
| srichter | itamar said it should be easy once you get FTP running | 00:19 |
| srichter | mkerrin: now we just need to get logging working for FTP | 00:19 |
| mkerrin | srichter: it was a lot easier then FTP :-) just one bug found in Twisted | 00:20 |
| srichter | so you and I become regular bug reporters now :-) | 00:21 |
| mkerrin | :-) | 00:21 |
| srichter | mkerrin: do you think you can merge the ftp and sftp package in zope.app.server? | 00:44 |
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| mkerrin | srichter: yeah - think it would be a better idea | 00:48 |
| mkerrin | srichter: I actually never taught of doing it that way :-). But I am not going to get it done now. | 00:49 |
| srichter | mkerrin: we want to keep the directory structure minimal; that's a general Zope 3 and Twsited development guideline | 00:50 |
| mkerrin | srichter: makes sense. I can get that done tomorrow has I am getting pretty tried. | 00:53 |
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| srichter | mkerrin: thanks very much for this work | 00:53 |
| mkerrin | srichter: no problem - all I want now is SMTP support. | 00:55 |
| srichter | mkerrin: me too | 00:56 |
| srichter | mkerrin: let's chat about this tomorrow as this bears some design decisions | 00:56 |
| mkerrin | srichter: lets | 00:58 |
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| * VladDrac 's received his srichter zope3 book, hurray! | 12:59 | |
| VladDrac | looks like someone at amazon stand on it | 13:00 |
| VladDrac | eh stood | 13:00 |
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| * VladDrac 's trying to reuse boston | 15:35 | |
| VladDrac | but my impression is that it's better to copy template.pt and start customizing the copy | 15:35 |
| srichter | that totally depends on how much you want to customize it of course | 15:36 |
| VladDrac | not much actually | 15:36 |
| VladDrac | but, if I understand correctly (also from previous conversations) you need to explicitly redefine all slots if you use a macro | 15:37 |
| srichter | well yeah, you use it and then you have to redeclare it for the other code | 15:38 |
| srichter | note that this is the same in Zope 2 | 15:38 |
| VladDrac | it feels different somehow | 15:39 |
| VladDrac | anyway my skin is currently lacking Contents / Preview / etc | 15:39 |
| VladDrac | can't figure out why | 15:39 |
| srichter | I would comment out anything you are not interested for debugging | 15:40 |
| srichter | if you have not used macros before, then it takes a while to see how they work | 15:41 |
| srichter | I just recently discovered myself on how to effectively use them | 15:41 |
| philiKON | VladDrac, the idea of the boston skin is that you simply (re)define your own pagelets | 15:44 |
| VladDrac | I'm quite familiar with ZPT and macro's, just not with them in a z3 context (which somehow feels different) | 15:51 |
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| VladDrac | boston has this specific part of tal: | 17:20 |
| VladDrac | <metal:block tal:condition="python: macroname == 'view'" | 17:21 |
| VladDrac | tal:repeat="pagelets pagelets:zope.app.boston.slots.IContextMenu"> | 17:21 |
| VladDrac | <tal:block metal:use-macro="pagelets" /> | 17:21 |
| VladDrac | </metal:block> | 17:21 |
| VladDrac | what's 'macroname'? when is it set to 'view'? | 17:21 |
| srichter | macroname is the name of the macro used | 17:21 |
| srichter | we usually have views and pages | 17:22 |
| srichter | views are a specific view for an object | 17:22 |
| srichter | and pages are just generic HTML pages | 17:22 |
| srichter | we use the macroname to display certain content based on whether you have pages or views | 17:22 |
| VladDrac | a containerView is a view? | 17:23 |
| srichter | this was introduced to get rid of the superfluous "usage" keyword in view registrations | 17:23 |
| srichter | yes | 17:23 |
| VladDrac | (because the condition seems to evaluate to false) | 17:23 |
| srichter | mmh, strange | 17:23 |
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| srichter | you have to ask roger (projekt01) for details | 17:25 |
| VladDrac | ok | 17:27 |
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| jghjk | hhi | 20:48 |
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| tvon | Is packaging z3 something that would be entirely up to the packager for a particular distribution or is there some reccomendation/guideline somewhere for how these packages should be structured? | 21:10 |
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| srichter | tvon: up to the packager | 21:11 |
| srichter | however, we would like zope to live in its own directory tree | 21:12 |
| srichter | iow, not together with the other Python libraries | 21:12 |
| tvon | I'm thinking more of how many packages it could be split into.. eg I think it would be great if the very low-dep packages like zope.interface could be stand-alone packages | 21:12 |
| tvon | it would encourage use of some z3 tech outside of z3 proper without people freaking out too much when some pygtk app sucks in all of zope 3 :) | 21:13 |
| srichter | tvon: we have scripts in place for making separate distros | 21:13 |
| srichter | at least for zope.interface we do | 21:13 |
| tvon | lovely | 21:13 |
| srichter | we could easily make one for zope.component | 21:13 |
| tvon | there arent too many like that... yeah, component is another | 21:14 |
| srichter | you should look at zpkgtools | 21:14 |
| tvon | thanks | 21:16 |
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| rainman | Hi folks -- I have a recurring problem with ZCatalogue searches. They work fine for a time and then all of a sudden, while they will present the appropriate links relevant to the search made, clicking them will simply time out. This will happen every time until I reindex it. Any ideas why this might be occurring and how to prevent it in future? | 21:53 |
| srichter | rainman: are you sure this is in Zope 3? | 21:58 |
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| __odie | srichter: its zope2 hes having the issue with ... | 22:45 |
| srichter | in this case: wrong channel :-) | 22:45 |
| __odie | I suggested he come here and talk to the people who wrote zope ;) | 22:47 |
| srichter | wrong channel still | 22:47 |
| srichter | for example, I know nothing of Zope 2 Catalogs | 22:48 |
| __odie | fair enough, in the future I will refrain :) | 22:49 |
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