IRC log of #zope3-dev for Monday, 2005-05-09

jerugood night all ... cu00:02
*** jeru has left #zope3-dev00:02
mkerrinsrichter: are you still there00:04
srichtermkerrin: yep00:05
mkerrinI have just gotten SFTP support working with Zope and I am about to add to the twisted branch if it is alright00:05
srichtermkerrin: yipee!00:19
srichteritamar said it should be easy once you get FTP running00:19
srichtermkerrin: now we just need to get logging working for FTP00:19
mkerrinsrichter: it was a lot easier then FTP :-) just one bug found in Twisted00:20
srichterso you and I become regular bug reporters now :-)00:21
srichtermkerrin: do you think you can merge the ftp and sftp package in
*** mgedmin has joined #zope3-dev00:45
*** philiKON has quit IRC00:47
mkerrinsrichter: yeah - think it would be a better idea00:48
mkerrinsrichter: I actually never taught of doing it that way :-). But I am not going to get it done now.00:49
srichtermkerrin: we want to keep the directory structure minimal; that's a general Zope 3 and Twsited development guideline00:50
mkerrinsrichter: makes sense. I can get that done tomorrow has I am getting pretty tried.00:53
*** yota has quit IRC00:53
srichtermkerrin: thanks very much for this work00:53
mkerrinsrichter: no problem - all I want now is SMTP support.00:55
srichtermkerrin: me too00:56
srichtermkerrin: let's chat about this tomorrow as this bears some design decisions00:56
mkerrinsrichter: lets00:58
*** mgedmin has quit IRC01:00
*** mkerrin has left #zope3-dev01:03
*** dipesh has left #zope3-dev01:33
*** ignas has joined #zope3-dev01:40
*** ignas_ has joined #zope3-dev01:44
*** ignas_ has quit IRC02:16
*** tvon has quit IRC03:02
*** bskahan has joined #zope3-dev03:28
*** ignas has quit IRC03:30
*** projekt01 has left #zope3-dev04:08
*** `anthony has quit IRC05:35
*** bskahan has quit IRC05:36
*** stub has joined #zope3-dev05:38
*** tav|offline has joined #zope3-dev06:20
*** `anthony has joined #zope3-dev06:45
*** tvon has joined #zope3-dev07:14
*** hazmat has joined #zope3-dev07:32
*** tav|offline has quit IRC07:40
*** RaFromBRC has joined #zope3-dev08:08
*** RaFromBRC has quit IRC08:09
*** elbixio has joined #zope3-dev08:25
*** elbixio has quit IRC08:27
*** d2m has joined #zope3-dev08:33
*** hazmat_ has joined #zope3-dev08:43
*** hazmat has quit IRC08:51
*** Theuni has joined #zope3-dev09:34
*** stub has quit IRC09:37
*** stub has joined #zope3-dev09:39
*** __gotcha_ has quit IRC09:39
*** yota has joined #zope3-dev09:58
*** tarek_ has joined #zope3-dev10:33
*** tarek_ is now known as tarek10:33
*** mooded has joined #zope3-dev10:50
*** viyyer has joined #zope3-dev11:06
*** viyyer has left #zope3-dev11:23
*** hazmat_ has quit IRC11:53
*** mkerrin has joined #zope3-dev11:57
*** __odie has joined #zope3-dev11:58
*** RaFromBRC has joined #zope3-dev12:09
*** `anthony has quit IRC12:11
*** __gotcha has joined #zope3-dev12:12
*** efge has joined #zope3-dev12:14
*** J1m has joined #zope3-dev12:17
*** RaFromBRC has quit IRC12:18
*** mgedmin has joined #zope3-dev12:18
*** faassen has joined #zope3-dev12:34
*** `anthony has joined #zope3-dev12:35
* VladDrac 's received his srichter zope3 book, hurray!12:59
VladDraclooks like someone at amazon stand on it13:00
VladDraceh stood13:00
*** ignas has joined #zope3-dev13:03
*** __odie is now known as OD-away13:05
*** alga has joined #zope3-dev13:38
*** J1m has quit IRC13:52
*** regebro has joined #zope3-dev14:00
*** bskahan has joined #zope3-dev14:04
*** zagy_ has joined #zope3-dev14:20
*** zagy has quit IRC14:20
*** philiKON has joined #zope3-dev14:26
*** tarek has quit IRC14:27
*** srichter has quit IRC14:29
*** anguenot has joined #zope3-dev14:51
*** srichter has joined #zope3-dev15:13
*** ChanServ sets mode: +o srichter15:16
*** srichter has quit IRC15:16
*** srichter has joined #zope3-dev15:16
*** ChanServ sets mode: +o srichter15:17
* VladDrac 's trying to reuse boston15:35
VladDracbut my impression is that it's better to copy and start customizing the copy15:35
srichterthat totally depends on how much you want to customize it of course15:36
VladDracnot much actually15:36
VladDracbut, if I understand correctly (also from previous conversations) you need to explicitly redefine all slots if you use a macro15:37
srichterwell yeah, you use it and then you have to redeclare it for the other code15:38
srichternote that this is the same in Zope 215:38
VladDracit feels different somehow15:39
VladDracanyway my skin is currently lacking Contents / Preview / etc15:39
VladDraccan't figure out why15:39
srichterI would comment out anything you are not interested for debugging15:40
srichterif you have not used macros before, then it takes a while to see how they work15:41
srichterI just recently discovered myself on how to effectively use them15:41
philiKONVladDrac, the idea of the boston skin is that you simply (re)define your own pagelets15:44
VladDracI'm quite familiar with ZPT and macro's, just not with them in a z3 context (which somehow feels different)15:51
*** J1m has joined #zope3-dev15:58
*** bradb has joined #zope3-dev16:06
*** SureshZ has joined #zope3-dev16:14
*** __gotcha has quit IRC16:22
*** niemeyer has joined #zope3-dev16:22
*** FarcePest has joined #zope3-dev16:26
*** alga_ has joined #zope3-dev16:29
*** philiKON has quit IRC16:33
*** alga has quit IRC16:41
*** BjornT has quit IRC16:57
*** gintas has joined #zope3-dev17:05
*** mooded has quit IRC17:10
VladDracboston has this specific part of tal:17:20
VladDrac          <metal:block tal:condition="python: macroname == 'view'"17:21
VladDrac                       tal:repeat="pagelets">17:21
VladDrac            <tal:block metal:use-macro="pagelets" />17:21
VladDrac          </metal:block>17:21
VladDracwhat's 'macroname'? when is it set to 'view'?17:21
srichtermacroname is the name of the macro used17:21
srichterwe usually have views and pages17:22
srichterviews are a specific view for an object17:22
srichterand pages are just generic HTML pages17:22
srichterwe use the macroname to display certain content based on whether you have pages or views17:22
VladDraca containerView is a view?17:23
srichterthis was introduced to get rid of the superfluous "usage" keyword in view registrations17:23
VladDrac(because the condition seems to evaluate to false)17:23
srichtermmh, strange17:23
*** gintas has quit IRC17:24
srichteryou have to ask roger (projekt01) for details17:25
*** BjornT has joined #zope3-dev17:28
*** gintas has joined #zope3-dev17:29
*** alga has joined #zope3-dev17:52
*** stub has quit IRC17:52
*** stub has joined #zope3-dev17:53
*** alga_ has quit IRC18:09
*** hazmat has joined #zope3-dev18:13
*** tvon has quit IRC18:14
*** hazmat has quit IRC18:25
*** hazmat has joined #zope3-dev18:25
*** MacYET has joined #zope3-dev18:33
*** Aiste has joined #zope3-dev18:36
*** hazmat has quit IRC18:38
*** hazmat has joined #zope3-dev18:49
*** hazmat has quit IRC18:59
*** stub has quit IRC19:03
*** stub has joined #zope3-dev19:03
*** stub has quit IRC19:25
*** stub has joined #zope3-dev19:30
*** FarcePest has quit IRC19:34
*** FarcePest has joined #zope3-dev19:36
*** gintas has quit IRC19:53
*** philiKON has joined #zope3-dev19:53
*** stub has quit IRC20:12
*** bradb has quit IRC20:14
*** stub has joined #zope3-dev20:15
*** mkerrin has quit IRC20:19
*** faassen has left #zope3-dev20:21
*** tarek_ has joined #zope3-dev20:29
*** bradb has joined #zope3-dev20:32
*** MacYET has quit IRC20:34
*** projekt01 has joined #zope3-dev20:36
*** ignas has quit IRC20:37
*** jghjk has joined #zope3-dev20:47
*** Aiste has quit IRC20:50
*** jghjk has left #zope3-dev21:05
*** jghjk has joined #zope3-dev21:06
*** tvon has joined #zope3-dev21:09
*** jghjk has left #zope3-dev21:09
*** SteveA has quit IRC21:09
tvonIs packaging z3 something that would be entirely up to the packager for a particular distribution or is there some reccomendation/guideline somewhere for how these packages should be structured?21:10
*** SteveA has joined #zope3-dev21:11
srichtertvon: up to the packager21:11
srichterhowever, we would like zope to live in its own directory tree21:12
srichteriow, not together with the other Python libraries21:12
tvonI'm thinking more of how many packages it could be split into.. eg I think it would be great if the very low-dep packages like zope.interface could be stand-alone packages21:12
tvonit would encourage use of some z3 tech outside of z3 proper without people freaking out too much when some pygtk app sucks in all of zope 3 :)21:13
srichtertvon: we have scripts in place for making separate distros21:13
srichterat least for zope.interface we do21:13
srichterwe could easily make one for zope.component21:13
tvonthere arent too many like that... yeah, component is another21:14
srichteryou should look at zpkgtools21:14
*** stub has quit IRC21:21
*** gintas has joined #zope3-dev21:35
*** stub has joined #zope3-dev21:37
*** rainman has joined #zope3-dev21:53
rainmanHi folks -- I have a recurring problem with ZCatalogue searches. They work fine for a time and then all of a sudden, while they will present the appropriate links relevant to the search made, clicking them will simply time out. This will happen every time until I reindex it. Any ideas why this might be occurring and how to prevent it in future?21:53
srichterrainman: are you sure this is in Zope 3?21:58
*** efge has left #zope3-dev22:02
*** stub has quit IRC22:11
*** anguenot has quit IRC22:21
*** stub has joined #zope3-dev22:23
*** bradb has quit IRC22:31
*** RaFromBRC has joined #zope3-dev22:31
*** bradb has joined #zope3-dev22:36
*** stub has quit IRC22:38
*** OD-away is now known as __odie22:42
__odiesrichter: its zope2 hes having the issue with ...22:45
srichterin this case: wrong channel :-)22:45
__odieI suggested he come here and talk to the people who wrote zope ;)22:47
srichterwrong channel still22:47
srichterfor example, I know nothing of Zope 2 Catalogs22:48
__odiefair enough, in the future I will refrain :)22:49
*** mgedmin has quit IRC22:54
*** alga has quit IRC22:56
*** rainman has quit IRC23:05
*** stub has joined #zope3-dev23:08
*** tvon has quit IRC23:13
*** tvon has joined #zope3-dev23:14
*** SteveA_ has joined #zope3-dev23:15
*** stub has quit IRC23:35
*** SteveA has quit IRC23:38

Generated by 2.15.1 by Marius Gedminas - find it at!