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| srichter | Stevea: no | 00:05 |
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| Stevea | there was some work around checking for installed python packages | 00:06 |
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| Stevea | worth i look i think | 00:06 |
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| srichter | ok, I will | 00:06 |
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| __odie | So in zope3 there basically is no *stable* way to search objects yet? The TextIndex NG thing is horrid | 00:47 |
| VladDrac | there's the catalog | 00:48 |
| VladDrac | ting3 is ony zope2+five at this moment (not yet 'ported' to z3) | 00:48 |
| __odie | What exactly does the catalog do? There is like *no* documentation on any of this :) | 00:49 |
| __odie | IIRC it finds objects with a certain property? | 00:49 |
| VladDrac | you're not familiar with zope2? | 00:50 |
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| __odie | no ... :) | 00:51 |
| VladDrac | the catalog indexes content based on attributes | 00:51 |
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| VladDrac | using specific indexes | 00:51 |
| VladDrac | like TING3 (which isn't available for z3) | 00:51 |
| VladDrac | a simple text and fieldindex are | 00:51 |
| __odie | could you search for a partial match? or say a value inbetween two ranges? | 00:53 |
| VladDrac | not with the current implementation | 00:53 |
| VladDrac | but eventually, yes | 00:53 |
| __odie | hmm | 00:54 |
| __odie | so im gonna need to bone up on search algortihms and write something myself heh | 00:54 |
| VladDrac | or fix the catalog :) | 00:55 |
| __odie | i doubt im qualified currently for that :) | 00:55 |
| srichter | VladDrac: I thought Andreas said it works with the Zope 3 catalog as well? | 00:57 |
| VladDrac | srichter I've looked at it | 00:58 |
| srichter | I see | 00:58 |
| srichter | that's too bad | 00:58 |
| VladDrac | as far as I can tell, it can be made to work once you write the z3 glue code around it | 00:58 |
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| VladDrac | TXNG 3 is the reimplementation of the well-known TextIndexNG product for | 00:58 |
| VladDrac | Zope 2 using Zope 3 technologies. The current implementation runs | 00:58 |
| VladDrac | out-of-the-box on Zope 2 (in combination with Five). The core implementation | 00:58 |
| VladDrac | can be re-used easily in Zope 3. | 00:58 |
| __odie | which really means "cant be used at all" because if it was easy, he would have done it ;) | 01:00 |
| VladDrac | actually it looks doable | 01:00 |
| VladDrac | index.py does resemble z3 index implementations alot | 01:00 |
| VladDrac | I might give it a shot | 01:01 |
| __odie | :) | 01:02 |
| __odie | is there some place which gives the current status of the Z3 catalog and what needs to be done to it still? | 01:04 |
| __odie | probabyl would be easier for me to fix it, than write something similiar and then switch over to yours when it works later :) | 01:09 |
| srichter | __odie: the catalog is pretty much done | 01:11 |
| srichter | we kep it small on purpose | 01:11 |
| srichter | the version that is in the trunk will be part of the release | 01:11 |
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| __odie | srichter: right, but it can only find exact values right? :) | 01:33 |
| __odie | you couldn't query for substrings? or values between two valuse (perhaps with the index interface?) | 01:35 |
| __odie | I read the API documentation it was pretty confusing to me, but tahts what I got from it :) | 01:35 |
| srichter | I think the textindex should be able to find substrings | 01:46 |
| __odie | sadly, you're far better off with sql in this regard :) | 01:50 |
| srichter | probably | 02:04 |
| srichter | but textindex ng is supposed to be pretty good | 02:04 |
| srichter | better than SQL | 02:04 |
| srichter | because it lets you do language-specific filtering | 02:05 |
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| elbixio | Hello everybody. I'm new to Zope3 and I'm trying to use PostgreSQL with it. I've read that you can add a SQL script in the the content space and you can use sqlexpr using TALES. Is there another way to use SQL with Zope3? Thanks | 08:44 |
| __odie | elbixio: its pretty quiet here this time of night, I think youd have better luck tomorrow morning (and I dont know the answer to your question :-) | 08:56 |
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| odie-away | srichter: I had some major inspiration for my search problem today ... perhaps when you're around I can run it by you :) | 08:57 |
| odie-away | goodnight all! | 08:57 |
| elbixio | good night :) | 08:58 |
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| VladDrac | odie what kind of idea? | 11:02 |
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| elbixio | hi. do the "authentication" package and the "pluggableauth" package have the same purpose? | 11:21 |
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| * VladDrac would really like http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Collectors/Zope3-dev/397 to be fixed | 12:10 | |
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| VladDrac | ok | 12:46 |
| VladDrac | I guess using TextIndexNG under zope3 is slightly less trivial | 12:47 |
| VladDrac | the core isn't as zope2 independend as andreas claims :) | 12:47 |
| VladDrac | wait, it compiles! | 12:47 |
| VladDrac | ship it! | 12:47 |
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| regebro | does the unittest run? | 13:05 |
| regebro | :) | 13:05 |
| VladDrac | don't think there are any | 13:05 |
| VladDrac | hmm wait, there are | 13:06 |
| regebro | See, you must have quality controls. If the unittest runs:ship it! :) | 13:09 |
| gintas | The functional test zope.app.debugskin.ftests.DebugSkinTests is failing for me for some reason. Is it just my machine? | 13:09 |
| hdima | gintas: Windows? | 13:10 |
| gintas | Linux | 13:11 |
| hdima | strange, on Linux the test passed | 13:12 |
| gintas | it's odd: the traceback does not include the code of the last few entries in the traceback which the functional test checks, just the file names and line numbers | 13:12 |
| hdima | I've seen some the test breakage on Windows, but I don't remerber the cause | 13:13 |
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| VladDrac | ok | 13:16 |
| VladDrac | I lost all errors | 13:16 |
| VladDrac | but it doesn't really index or search yet :) | 13:16 |
| VladDrac | interface.providedBy(foo) returns true if foo can somehow be adapted into interface? | 13:30 |
| VladDrac | hmmm guess not | 13:31 |
| projekt01 | VladDrac, try interface(foo), if no CommponentLookupError occurs, you get the right adapter | 13:34 |
| VladDrac | yeah ok | 13:34 |
| VladDrac | I'm more of a LBYL guy | 13:34 |
| projekt01 | LBYL ??? | 13:35 |
| VladDrac | look before you leap, google it :) | 13:35 |
| gintas | VladDrac, better use IInterface(foo, None) and check if result is not None | 13:37 |
| gintas | (of course, you can use a marker object if you expect None sometimes) | 13:37 |
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| projekt01 | Yes, this is also possible, it depends on what you are trying to do. | 13:42 |
| projekt01 | But you are sure that you don't know there is or is not a adapter and you have to check it? | 13:42 |
| projekt01 | I preferre to call adapters only if I know there are there. You allways can add a generic adapter for a minimal support for Interface (for="*"). | 13:44 |
| VladDrac | I'm sure :) | 13:44 |
| VladDrac | it's about indexing - random objects must be adapted into something before their index attribute is accessed | 13:45 |
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| VladDrac | okay, coolness | 14:11 |
| * VladDrac got TextIndexNG 3 to work witn the zope3 catalog | 14:11 | |
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| VladDrac | speaking of the devil | 14:16 |
| VladDrac | hmm wait, nevermind | 14:16 |
| VladDrac | lunchtime :) | 14:16 |
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| VladDrac | mogge j1m | 15:09 |
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| J1m | mogge | 15:37 |
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| VladDrac | let's see if I can get the tng3 tests to work as well | 15:53 |
| VladDrac | I wonder if porting additional zope2 indexes is as easy as porting tng3 | 15:53 |
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| VladDrac | are there any zope3 sprints planned for EP? | 16:34 |
| projekt01 | Ask, philiKON perhaps he will be there and know something about a sprint | 16:35 |
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| odie-away | VladDrac: Hows that textNG thing going? :) | 19:49 |
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| VladDrac | odie: it's working | 19:52 |
| __odie | VladDrac: cool, maybe you can describe what you did to me sometime ;) | 19:52 |
| VladDrac | basically it will be a new index package for zope3 | 19:53 |
| VladDrac | but I have to discuss some details with AJ before finalizing things I guess | 19:53 |
| __odie | good work :) | 19:53 |
| __odie | so you made the textindex use the index interface? | 19:54 |
| __odie | so it can be stored in catalogs? | 19:54 |
| VladDrac | in a sense yes | 19:56 |
| __odie | I am trying hard to understand how this stuff works :) not much documentation to go on heh | 19:56 |
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| VladDrac | the catalog/README.txt and catalog/browser/README.txt should get you started | 19:58 |
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| __odie | I read the catalog Readme a few times, still have some conceptual gaps to fill first ;) | 19:59 |
| __odie | but thanks :) | 20:00 |
| __odie | good work though | 20:00 |
| __odie | what issues did you encounter while doing this? | 20:00 |
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| VladDrac | Fetching external item into 'src/zope/testing' | 23:57 |
| VladDrac | svn: 'src/zope/testing' is not a working copy | 23:57 |
| VladDrac | damn, why does svn keep failing | 23:58 |
| J1m | Jusr remove it | 23:59 |
| J1m | Just remove it | 23:59 |
| J1m | (externals suck) | 23:59 |
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| VladDrac | I did | 23:59 |
| VladDrac | it's just annoying, svn is already slow sometimes, if I leave my svn up unattended I'll find it broken later | 23:59 |
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