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| bob2 | hm, putting skins in the browser/ module is just a convention, right? | 09:21 |
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| elbixio | hi, i'm trying the ZODB Programming tutorial and i got an error when i try to do: userdb[newuser.id] = newuser | 11:26 |
| elbixio | i think userdb is an OOBTree. how do you append a ke/value pair to an OOBTree? | 11:27 |
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| bob2 | hm, so, I get this when trying to run tests: | 12:29 |
| bob2 | File "/home/rob/projects/orious/ZopeX3-3.0.0/build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/zope/app/tests/test.py", line 541, in visit | 12:29 |
| bob2 | __import__(pkg) | 12:29 |
| bob2 | ValueError: Empty module name | 12:29 |
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| * VladDrac still doesn't quite understand the meaning of '@@' (yeah, views, they're "eyes") | 14:15 | |
| SteveA | it means, do not traverse the name using normal traversal. instead, traverse by looking for the view with that name. | 14:17 |
| bob2 | ahh | 14:17 |
| SteveA | hi bob2 | 14:18 |
| bob2 | hey SteveA | 14:18 |
| VladDrac | ah ok | 14:18 |
| VladDrac | so in stead of resolving attributes on objects (sort of), use the skinning machinery? | 14:19 |
| VladDrac | so does that mean that all "templates"/views are prefixed by @@ ? | 14:19 |
| VladDrac | (doesn't that result in alot of ugly urls?) | 14:19 |
| projekt01 | VladDrac, because we lookup items in a container and if no item with this name is found we lookup views with this name! | 14:19 |
| projekt01 | This give us unique namspaces for views and items | 14:20 |
| VladDrac | so http://domain/foo.html and http://domain/@@foo.html are equal as long as there's no item named foo.html | 14:20 |
| VladDrac | (makes sense, it could be a ZODB pagetemplate) | 14:20 |
| * VladDrac notes that his Zope2 experience conflicts here :) | 14:21 | |
| VladDrac | (and this will probably solve alot of zope2 issues I ran into once) | 14:21 |
| projekt01 | You can call views without @@ but it's not recommended, because perhaps you call a item form a container with the same name | 14:21 |
| VladDrac | Namespaces are one honking great idea -- let's do more of those! | 14:21 |
| VladDrac | :) | 14:21 |
| bob2 | since folks are around now, can anyone point me at a sample zope3 application that will run with the zopex3 tarball release? | 14:21 |
| bob2 | the messageboard one seems to error out with an exception I don't understand | 14:22 |
| VladDrac | bob bob how about zphoto/zphotoslide? | 14:22 |
| bob2 | ah, where can I find them? | 14:22 |
| VladDrac | svn.zope.org | 14:23 |
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| bob2 | hmm | 14:26 |
| bob2 | is there a simple way to tell if a particular zope app is for zope3 or 2? | 14:26 |
| MacYET_ | by looking at the code | 14:27 |
| bob2 | ah. what should I look for? afaict zope2 and 3 code live in the same namespace, so it's not as simple as checking imports. | 14:28 |
| yota | look zcml files | 14:39 |
| yota | if exists, it's zope3 app | 14:39 |
| VladDrac | or a zope2 five app :) | 14:40 |
| yota | yes ;) | 14:40 |
| bob2 | ahhh, thanks | 14:40 |
| bob2 | VladDrac: photo loooks interesting, thanks a lot | 14:40 |
| VladDrac | bob2 if you're looking for an application to reverse engineer, please check srichters book first | 14:41 |
| yota | or weitershausen's book | 14:42 |
| bob2 | VladDrac: I have it in my hot little hands | 14:42 |
| bob2 | VladDrac: but the demo code on svn.z.o doesn't run with zopex3 | 14:42 |
| bob2 | and I don't know enough to figure out why, so it's kinda hard to learn from | 14:43 |
| bob2 | the book itself is good, though | 14:43 |
| d2m | bob2: the files for the Zope3Book are at svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/book/trunk an should run with the tarball | 15:02 |
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| bob2 | d2m: hmm...should I file a bug somewhere if I try again and find it doesn't? | 15:02 |
| d2m | bob2: you should care to install zx3 correct - did you create an instance already ? | 15:03 |
| bob2 | d2m: yes, I did. | 15:03 |
| d2m | bob2: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users is the zope3-users-mailing list | 15:04 |
| * VladDrac would still really really really like zope3 to be a bit more developer friendly | 15:08 | |
| VladDrac | i.e. usuable tal parse errors | 15:08 |
| VladDrac | in stead of 'unsubscriptable object' | 15:08 |
| VladDrac | :\ | 15:08 |
| MacYET_ | commit a patch for your current problem | 15:09 |
| VladDrac | if I could I would | 15:09 |
| VladDrac | afaik, there already is a patch somewhere btw | 15:09 |
| MacYET_ | why can#t you? you're smart :) | 15:10 |
| VladDrac | mac: in general, zope3 tends to raise errors during zcml parsing or somewhere outside tal parsing, not at the actual place where the error takes place | 15:10 |
| VladDrac | mac: I'm still rather stupid when it comes to zope3 :) | 15:10 |
| MacYET_ | what a bad excuse :) | 15:11 |
| VladDrac | so untill then I'll just beg for help as a stupid newbie :) | 15:11 |
| bob2 | is the ftp side of things documented anywhere? | 15:16 |
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| * VladDrac hates css | 15:31 | |
| VladDrac | (just so you know) | 15:31 |
| bob2 | hm, something rather obvious, how do I logout of zope? | 15:34 |
| VladDrac | press 'logout' :) | 15:34 |
| bob2 | wow, I'm blind | 15:35 |
| bob2 | that toally wasn't there before | 15:35 |
| bob2 | except that it doesn't seem to log me out | 15:36 |
| VladDrac | that might happen - some browsers have issues clearing HTTP authentication | 15:38 |
| bob2 | hmm, dang | 15:39 |
| VladDrac | if you want an anonymous view, just connect to 127.0.0.1:8080 | 15:40 |
| VladDrac | that's what I do usually | 15:40 |
| bob2 | ah, awesome, thanks | 15:42 |
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| dagnachew | where to buy a 64 GB opteron box ? | 21:54 |
| dagnachew | penguincomputing | 21:54 |
| dagnachew | ? | 21:54 |
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