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| andrew_m | i have some troubles understanding a deprecation warning: "[...]/zope/app/component/metaconfigure.py:84: DeprecationWarning: Use of factory without provides to indicate a handler is deprecated. [...] Use the handler attribute instead." | 13:48 | 
| andrew_m | is that something in a <factory> tag? what does that new 'handler' attribute do? | 13:48 | 
| J1m | Look for a subscriber that factory rather than handler | 13:49 | 
| J1m | No, a subscriber tag | 13:49 | 
| J1m | We can improve that message. | 13:49 | 
| J1m | It was written assuming that people knew which directive we were refering to. | 13:50 | 
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| J1m | We have a general problem with warnings that, because they are not exceptions, it is hard to give people information about code affected. | 13:50 | 
| andrew_m | J1m: ahh, all clear now, thanks. Yes, hard to track these warnings back to the source | 13:51 | 
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| eldar | hi | 16:28 | 
| eldar | a quick question, is zope3 picky about objects having attributes with names like "id"? | 16:29 | 
| srichter | nope | 16:36 | 
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| srichter | that was one of the major design goals of Zope 3 | 16:36 | 
| philiKON | well, it is picky about __name__ and __parent__ | 16:36 | 
| srichter | well, everyone should be carefull if it comes to __<name here?__ variables | 16:37 | 
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| eldar | thanks | 16:51 | 
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| itamar | srichter: here? | 17:20 | 
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| VladDrac | heya itamar | 17:33 | 
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| itamar | hi | 17:34 | 
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| srichter | itamar: I am now; but I will be gone in 10 mins for lunch again; but I will be around all afternoon | 20:47 | 
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| itamar | srichter: just wanted to let you know exarkun and I have started working on fixing the twisted ftp server | 21:37 | 
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| mkerrin | itamar: just saw your last message. Are you working on the twisted FTP server. | 22:43 | 
| itamar | yes | 22:44 | 
| mkerrin | I have done some work on this that I am about to update that may help | 22:44 | 
| itamar | well, we have a branch | 22:45 | 
| itamar | patches against that branch would be welcome, but we did some major surgery on the current code | 22:45 | 
| itamar | so patches against trunk may not be very useful for most parts of the code | 22:45 | 
| mkerrin | cool - is this on the against the twisted trunk | 22:45 | 
| itamar | hm? | 22:46 | 
| mkerrin | sorry - are you taking about patches against Zope or Twisted | 22:46 | 
| itamar | oh, Twisted | 22:47 | 
| itamar | the interface for the backend is still in flux, so patches against zope aren't worht doing yet | 22:47 | 
| itamar | but the goal is for srichter to be able to add ftp to his twisted http patch for zope | 22:48 | 
| mkerrin | I have gone some work on this already - bug #1003 on twistedmatrix.com and a half working Twisted FTP server | 22:50 | 
| mkerrin | So which branch are you using? | 22:51 | 
| itamar | exarkun/ftp-server/ | 22:51 | 
| mkerrin | thanks - I will take a look | 22:52 | 
| itamar | http://svn.twistedmatrix.com/cvs/branches/exarkun/ftp-server/ is viewcvs | 22:52 | 
| itamar | patches against that are more than welcome | 22:54 | 
| itamar | we were mid-way through reimplementing ftp_* commands | 22:54 | 
| itamar | USER, PASS, LIST and PASV kinda work | 22:55 | 
| mkerrin | excellant work. i see the backend interface looks a lot nicer then before | 22:57 | 
| itamar | yes, though send() and receive() may still change somewhat | 22:59 | 
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| mkerrin | I have go home now - but I will try and do some work on this in the next two days | 23:04 | 
| itamar | cool | 23:05 | 
| mkerrin | is there anything in particular I should attempt to try so I don't duplicate your stuff | 23:06 | 
| itamar | we'll only probably get back to this on weekend | 23:06 | 
| itamar | unless exarkun does it on his own | 23:06 | 
| itamar | ask him first | 23:06 | 
| mkerrin | right will do - he is on #twisted | 23:08 | 
| itamar | yeah | 23:09 | 
| srichter | itamar: fixing ftp: yipee!!! | 23:09 | 
| srichter | that fits our schedule pretty well | 23:11 | 
| srichter | itamar: Jim wants me to keep zservre in the code, but make twisted the default, so I have to do some redoing, but it should nto be too bad | 23:11 | 
| srichter | I want to shoot for October 1 to get the twisted integration stable and merge it to the trunk | 23:12 | 
| srichter | (at the latest) | 23:12 | 
| itamar | ok, cool | 23:12 | 
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