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| MJ | philiKON: The partial interface + adapter works fine | 00:22 |
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| philiKON | good to know :) | 00:22 |
| philiKON | thanks for your email on the book example by the way | 00:22 |
| MJ | except that I now have to make the container class also contain the partial interface... | 00:22 |
| philiKON | haven't looked at the code yet | 00:22 |
| philiKON | will do so soon | 00:22 |
| MJ | :) | 00:22 |
| philiKON | right | 00:23 |
| MJ | The example is simple enough... simple mathematics. | 00:23 |
| philiKON | yep | 00:23 |
| MJ | And just me being pedantic | 00:23 |
| philiKON | but maybe already too not-straightforward enough to blur the reader's mind about what's really going on (annotations) | 00:23 |
| MJ | BTW, how would one use conflict resolution in zope 3 with adapters like these? | 00:24 |
| MJ | Perhaps | 00:24 |
| MJ | The goal is illustration, I realize that | 00:25 |
| philiKON | dunno about conflict resolution. what do you mean exactly? | 00:25 |
| MJ | In z2 zodb you can use app-level conflict resolution | 00:25 |
| MJ | we use that with our rating class | 00:26 |
| MJ | If thread A reads, then thread B reads and writes, then thread A writes | 00:26 |
| MJ | you can have the class patch it up | 00:27 |
| philiKON | right. adapters do add some indirecdtion there | 00:27 |
| MJ | Exactly | 00:27 |
| MJ | So the IAnnotatable cannot resolve the conflict | 00:27 |
| philiKON | that's a very good question i'll keep in mind | 00:27 |
| philiKON | i presume not the IAnnotatable but the IAnnotations needs to solve the conflict | 00:28 |
| MJ | Maybe MVCC make that less of a problem | 00:28 |
| philiKON | maybe | 00:28 |
| MJ | exatly | 00:28 |
| MJ | but the lookup process to detect who is able to resolve it is going to be costly | 00:29 |
| MJ | better to retry the whole request perhaps | 00:29 |
| philiKON | i'm unsure yet how to such resolving should happen anyway | 00:29 |
| MJ | Nope | 00:29 |
| MJ | One would have to figure out what changed and who's responsible for those changes | 00:30 |
| MJ | tricky | 00:30 |
| MJ | Perhaps something for Jim to ponder. | 00:30 |
| philiKON | that's what i'm thinking *grin* | 00:31 |
| MJ | I, for one, am going to lay that to rest for the night at least.. | 00:31 |
| MJ | Bedtime :) | 00:31 |
| MJ | Thanks for the help again, Philipp | 00:31 |
| MJ | Night all! | 00:31 |
| philiKON | night | 00:32 |
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| epx | hi. | 02:42 |
| epx | I have read a book about zope x3 (von Weitershausen's), but I am having some difficult time to see "the big picture" of zope3, applied to making real-world web applications. Anyone knows some working example software I could study? | 02:44 |
| d2m | epx: have you looked at the download on the book-webpage ? http://worldcookery.com | 02:52 |
| epx | not yet. didn't know where to begin | 03:05 |
| epx | thanks! | 03:05 |
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| projekt01 | Do the OOBTree and the IOBTree have the same API? | 04:32 |
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| philiKON | Theuni, just replied to your email on the german transl | 13:20 |
| * Theuni checks | 13:20 | |
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| MJ | philiKON: I just chucked the partial interface and adapter | 13:27 |
| MJ | and moved the DC stuff to the implementation instead | 13:28 |
| MJ | Makes it all round cleaner | 13:28 |
| philiKON | ok | 13:28 |
| philiKON | matter of taste i guess | 13:28 |
| MJ | No need to adapt really | 13:28 |
| MJ | Also makes the container stuff much cleaner | 13:28 |
| MJ | No need to make the editor contain the partial interface as well | 13:29 |
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| projekt01 | Hi, J1m, back from holiday? | 17:35 |
| projekt01 | J1m, I work together with Julien from nuxeo at the ecm workflow next week. | 17:36 |
| J1m | No, just home to mow the lawn and check email. | 17:36 |
| J1m | k | 17:37 |
| projekt01 | Does your OK for the lxml mean, we can add a branch for the migration and including xpdlcore | 17:37 |
| J1m | fow what migration? | 17:37 |
| J1m | for what migration? | 17:38 |
| projekt01 | ... xpdl core uses lxml and the ecm wmfc package uses xpdlcore | 17:38 |
| projekt01 | Right now we use a replacement for zope.wfmc at the ecm project | 17:39 |
| projekt01 | zope.wfmc should use xpdlcore which uses lxml in the future, right? | 17:39 |
| J1m | I still don't know what migration you are talking about. | 17:39 |
| projekt01 | migration/integration | 17:40 |
| J1m | Um, I don't really care. | 17:40 |
| J1m | I think the rewrite of the xml parser was a waste of time. | 17:40 |
| J1m | The sax parser worked fine imo, but of someone else wants to take over maintenance and use a different strategy, that's OK with me. | 17:41 |
| projekt01 | I mean this proposal: | 17:41 |
| projekt01 | http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/XpdlcoreInclusion | 17:41 |
| J1m | ok, I'm -0 on that propsoal. | 17:42 |
| projekt01 | Ok | 17:43 |
| projekt01 | Cool, have a nice weekend | 17:44 |
| J1m | Thanks | 17:44 |
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| roym` | I need to create a view w/NEXT/PREV buttons for a folder's contents. | 20:39 |
| roym` | My plan is to define an Interface with next()/prev() methods, then | 20:39 |
| roym` | write an adapter for my content object to the Interface. Has this already | 20:39 |
| roym` | been done? | 20:39 |
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| philiKON | roym`, this is really a matter of the browser view. no need to adapt, i think | 21:41 |
| philiKON | what you're talking about is generally referred to as batching | 21:41 |
| roym` | philiKON, ok - maybe this is about batching in batches of one... | 21:45 |
| philiKON | ah, ic | 21:45 |
| philiKON | i misunderstood you | 21:45 |
| philiKON | in this case an adapter seems feasible | 21:46 |
| roym` | imagine going thru a subfolder of recipes, one at a time. | 21:46 |
| philiKON | righ | 21:46 |
| roym` | am I right in assuming that I need to grow my own solution here? | 21:47 |
| philiKON | an adapter for IContained could yield the next/previous item in its containing parent | 21:47 |
| philiKON | yes | 21:47 |
| roym` | thanks - that's what I had figured. | 21:48 |
| roym` | btw, your RecipeView example (pg 231) inherits from BrowserView. srichters book claims that this is no longer necessary. | 21:48 |
| philiKON | well | 21:49 |
| philiKON | phone | 21:49 |
| roym` | I couldn't however find the way he mentions in his book. | 21:49 |
| roym` | sorry - phone? | 21:49 |
| philiKON | i'm on the phone | 21:49 |
| roym` | ah. | 21:49 |
| philiKON | back | 21:54 |
| philiKON | well, i don't think BrowserView is deprecated | 21:55 |
| philiKON | so, at least that "no longer" is not entirely right | 21:55 |
| philiKON | it's correct that it's not necessary | 21:55 |
| philiKON | however | 21:55 |
| philiKON | for the sake of clarity, I still do it, even in my own code | 21:55 |
| philiKON | why? | 21:55 |
| philiKON | because it explains, where the __init__ and self.context, self.request come from | 21:55 |
| philiKON | zcml is doing too much magic there if you ask me | 21:55 |
| philiKON | zcml should be about registering stuff, not about saving two lines of python code that could very well be there and explain (esp. to newbies) a lot | 21:56 |
| roym` | agreed wholeheartedly... | 21:56 |
| roym` | I find it tedious to restart the engine each time zcml changes. | 21:57 |
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| roym` | is there a way to register a page in ZCML as an alias for another? | 22:32 |
| roym` | I have a view named "xx.html" and I want "index.html" to be the same view without duplicating the declaration. | 22:32 |
| philiKON | nay, you'd have to duplicate the zcml directive | 22:43 |
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| roym` | I am trying to figure out how to use a python View class to handle | 23:35 |
| roym` | both form submission, and display (just like Philipp's RecipeView | 23:35 |
| roym` | class). However, I want to render my own ZPT file - how would I do | 23:35 |
| roym` | this? Should I define a __call__ method? I don't understand the | 23:35 |
| roym` | use of response.redirect(".") in the example.. | 23:35 |
| roym` | 23:35 | |
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