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| alienoid | hi, i see svn:externals for ZODB were changed for 3.1 branch to reflect new 3.5 final release, but not for the trunk, is there a reason or just it will be done lately? | 00:56 |
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| MJ | alienoid: I am assuming you'll have to poke Tim about that | 01:25 |
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| MJ | alienoid: the trunk will move to ZODB trunk | 01:29 |
| MJ | Tim says | 01:29 |
| MJ | alienoid: 3.5.0a7 became 3.5.0 final | 01:30 |
| MJ | 3.5.0a8 is to be trunk and future 3.6.0 | 01:30 |
| alienoid | ok, thanks i just posted question to zodb list :) | 01:31 |
| MJ | Poor Tim, I told him that you already have the answer | 01:32 |
| MJ | So's he can choose to keep his sanity ;) | 01:32 |
| alienoid | :) | 01:33 |
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| alienoid | c u | 01:33 |
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| tiredbones | I found mention,on google, of a script to change a pass word for zope called zpasswd.py, but I don't have this script on my newly installed zope3. Does such a script live in zope3? | 05:44 |
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| bob2 | hm | 11:24 |
| bob2 | context-dependant vocabularies don't look trivial | 11:24 |
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| SteveA | bob2: vocabularies are a tad over-complex. the "sources" stuff is meant to fix that. | 11:57 |
| bob2 | hmm, I gathaered from reading zope3-dev that sources can't be context-sensitive yet | 11:59 |
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| baldtrol | question... been working with a particular set of macros all morning here, and suddenly the pt that's calling them can't find them, getting a traceback that includes the following: "Warning: Macro expansion failed | 19:33 |
| baldtrol | Warning: exceptions.TypeError: unsubscriptable object" | 19:33 |
| baldtrol | nothing changed except some markup inside the macros, and now when i set them back the way they were, it still throws that, pretty much no matter what... | 19:34 |
| baldtrol | i don't know where to start troubleshooting it, since it was working one minute, and not the next. no zcml has changed, they're still in my standardmacros.py for that skin... | 19:36 |
| baldtrol | any thoughts (other than "hush it up baldtrol" :D ) | 19:36 |
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| srichter | baldtrol: we changed to METAL to 1.1 which changes the semantics | 20:07 |
| baldtrol | hmmm... that would explain things. i just upgraded to c2, but this was working since then... or maybe i just thought it was | 20:08 |
| srichter | it's hard to explain what's wrong | 20:08 |
| srichter | it would be nice if you could demonstrate the failure in a test | 20:09 |
| baldtrol | ok cool... bit rusty on writing tests for pagetemplate stuff, but i'll browse back through the examples and try to whip one up | 20:09 |
| srichter | it would be really, really helpful | 20:10 |
| baldtrol | i'll get on it | 20:10 |
| srichter | thanks a lot | 20:10 |
| srichter | please send the test to the list | 20:10 |
| srichter | Fred or someone else will pick it up | 20:10 |
| baldtrol | will do. thanks man. | 20:10 |
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| baldtrol | srichter: the pagetemplate problem was my own, not my c2 upgrade... error logging utility just wasn't going back far enough in the traceback, but watching the requests (while attempting to build the test case) showed me where the macro compilation was failing. my mistake... | 21:35 |
| baldtrol | thank you though. and if i'd like to get involved with the zope3 project (documentation, test cases, whatever grunt work needs to be done), how would i go about it? i use zope enough that i feel like i should be giving back :) | 21:36 |
| srichter | ok, no prob | 21:36 |
| srichter | baldtrol: cool | 21:37 |
| srichter | just look at the proposals and see what you can do | 21:37 |
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| niemeyer | srichter: Hi! | 22:10 |
| srichter | hi | 22:10 |
| niemeyer | srichter: In src/zope/interface/_zope_interface_coptimizations.c, SpecType is declared as both extern and static. | 22:10 |
| srichter | I think this is for GCC compat | 22:10 |
| srichter | ut I am no C developer | 22:10 |
| niemeyer | Huh!? | 22:10 |
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| niemeyer | It looks broken to me.. and to gcc as well :) | 22:11 |
| niemeyer | Either it is static, and the reference is used only inside the file itself, or it's extern, and people outside may use the reference. | 22:11 |
| niemeyer | Indeed.. declaring something as extern *inside* the file is not really meaningful, since it's available already. | 22:12 |
| srichter | sorry, I am sprinting | 22:12 |
| niemeyer | extern is usually necessary when you want to put a pointer to the structure in some .h file, but want everyone else to be aware that *someone* is defining it. | 22:12 |
| srichter | so I do not have much time | 22:12 |
| niemeyer | srichter: Ah.. I'm sorry. | 22:12 |
| niemeyer | srichter: Ok.. nevermind. The latest version is already fixed. | 22:13 |
| niemeyer | srichter: Have a nice sprint | 22:13 |
| srichter | thanks | 22:14 |
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| tiredbones | Can someone point me to some detail instruction for migrating to Zope3 from Zope2.8? I'm finding a lot of bits and piece on google. | 22:24 |
| srichter | tiredbones: there are no such documents | 22:33 |
| srichter | Zope 3 addresses a very different audience than Zope 2.8 | 22:34 |
| srichter | our support of migration is the Five work | 22:35 |
| tiredbones | srichter, Five work is "do it the hard way" | 22:37 |
| tiredbones | srichter, Five work is "do it the hard way"? | 22:38 |
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| mgedmin | How to port your Zope 2 application to Zope 3: the easy way | 22:43 |
| mgedmin | step 1: hire a team of experienced Zope 3 programmers | 22:43 |
| mgedmin | step 2: give them your Zope 2 application | 22:43 |
| mgedmin | step 3: pay a lot of money | 22:43 |
| mgedmin | step 4: wait a few months (depending on the size of the application) | 22:43 |
| mgedmin | step 5: profit! | 22:43 |
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| srichter | right, good point | 22:43 |
| tiredbones | It sure is unfair to all those folks who jump onto Zope in the early days. | 22:47 |
| tiredbones | I know, who said anything about being fair. | 22:50 |
| srichter | well, we simply do not have a migration path for Zope 2 people | 22:51 |
| srichter | Zope 2 offers a lot of TTW development, nothing of which exists in Zope 3 | 22:52 |
| srichter | seriously, reading one of the Zope 3 books is the best starting point | 22:52 |
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| jbb666 | hehe good marketing ;) | 23:02 |
| srichter | well, I wrote the book so people could get started with Zope 3 | 23:03 |
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| fcorrea-wondermo | srichter : how do you compare your book to the Phillip one?? Whitch one is good for a quick integration with Zope 3? | 23:17 |
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| srichter | fcorrea-wondermo: I have not looked at Philipp's book in such great detail for while to know the difference really | 23:40 |
| srichter | fcorrea-wondermo: also, what do you mean with "for a quick integration"? | 23:40 |
| fcorrea-wondermo | srichter: I mean integration with the technology, Zope 3 itself.... | 23:44 |
| srichter | fcorrea-wondermo: what do you wnat to integrate with Zope 3? | 23:50 |
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