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| VladDrac | is there an easy way to check if any of the interfaces implemented by an object provide a specific attribute? | 00:14 |
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| VladDrac | like name in ISomeInterface.names() without explicitly refering to the interface | 00:14 |
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| benji_york | VladDrac, I think there is, but can't make time right now :( | 00:18 |
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| projekt01 | benji_york, are you working on a windows box? | 01:15 |
| benji_york | linux and windows | 01:15 |
| projekt01 | Do you have also a dualmodechannel problem on windows with the z3 server? | 01:16 |
| benji_york | I'm not familure with the "dualmodechannel problem" | 01:17 |
| benji_york | what do you mean? | 01:17 |
| projekt01 | I get all the time such messages in the Dos box: http://paste.plone.org/304 | 01:18 |
| projekt01 | Do you know what this means? | 01:19 |
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| benji_york | I have seen it before, but it's been quite a while and don't remember :( what are you doing when you see it | 01:20 |
| projekt01 | Nothing special just call a page and they get returned correctly | 01:20 |
| benji_york | hmm, sorry I don't have any ideas | 01:21 |
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| runyaga | why on fscking earth does zope3 insert base href?!?!?! | 01:55 |
| * runyaga frowns | 02:01 | |
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| projekt01 | runyaga, there are some discussion about to remove BASE href insertion and use a different concept. | 02:29 |
| runyaga | its stupid | 02:29 |
| projekt01 | runyaga, btw, this happens only if you don't define it in the template | 02:30 |
| runyaga | i dont want base at all | 02:30 |
| runyaga | no one wants to define it | 02:30 |
| projekt01 | I agree, I run into some bugs because of that. | 02:30 |
| runyaga | zope is the only system in the world that even cares about it | 02:30 |
| runyaga | whats hilarious is | 02:30 |
| runyaga | its not hilarious | 02:31 |
| runyaga | its just fucking wrong | 02:31 |
| runyaga | excuse my language | 02:31 |
| projekt01 | I guess it has to do with some traversal stuff where is solved with this concept. | 02:31 |
| runyaga | no its not | 02:31 |
| runyaga | i think its so you can use those stupid :method, :list | 02:31 |
| runyaga | conventions in forms | 02:31 |
| projekt01 | Could be | 02:32 |
| runyaga | i mean.. | 02:32 |
| runyaga | damn i wish i would have hit this problem before 3.1 | 02:32 |
| runyaga | i guess i could just check in the fixes | 02:32 |
| runyaga | redirect and __insertBase dont even USE self.getBase | 02:33 |
| runyaga | why even have that method?! | 02:33 |
| projekt01 | but __insertBase is not allways called | 02:33 |
| runyaga | as faulkner says "its further than crazy" | 02:34 |
| projekt01 | ;-) | 02:34 |
| runyaga | class LSTechBrowserResponse(BrowserResponse): | 02:36 |
| runyaga | def getBase(self): | 02:36 |
| runyaga | return '' | 02:36 |
| runyaga | def setBase(self, *args): | 02:36 |
| runyaga | pass | 02:36 |
| runyaga | _base = property(getBase, setBase) | 02:36 |
| runyaga | jeesh | 02:36 |
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| projekt01 | runyaga, did you see the BrowserDefaultTests tests in zope.app.publication.tests.test_browserpublication.py | 02:51 |
| runyaga | no i got my problem solved | 02:51 |
| projekt01 | runyaga, the __insertBase has to do withe the setDefaultViewName | 02:52 |
| runyaga | huh? | 02:52 |
| runyaga | i will write that on my to look at list | 02:52 |
| projekt01 | The default view forces to traverses to a view. | 02:53 |
| projekt01 | I'm not sure if in this case the base url is needed, but if so you are not able to insert a correct base url because of the implicit (default view) traverse hook | 02:55 |
| projekt01 | I guess z3 does insert a base url because of, there is no other way to provide a correct base url with the "default view name" hook. But I'm not sure ;-) | 02:57 |
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| projekt01 | srichter, ayt? | 03:02 |
| projekt01 | J1m, ayt? | 03:05 |
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| projekt01 | kaczordek, hi | 04:43 |
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| niemeyer_ | Damd firewall | 05:10 |
| sidnei | wassup nimz | 05:11 |
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| fabiorizzo | hi people | 05:55 |
| fabiorizzo | how i solve this error type: TypeError("Could not adapt", obj, self) ? | 05:56 |
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| VladDrac | fabiorizzo: by creating an adapter to adapt from a to b :) | 11:10 |
| VladDrac | argh | 11:12 |
| VladDrac | I refactored my IBrowserPublisher supprt into an adapter | 11:12 |
| VladDrac | and now it won't adapt anymore :( | 11:12 |
| VladDrac | ok | 11:15 |
| * VladDrac drops the adapter | 11:15 | |
| VladDrac | I really would not know how to debug this | 11:15 |
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| SteveA | VladDrac: what do you have? | 13:39 |
| VladDrac | steve I wanted to refactor my class's IBrowserPublisher support into an adapter | 13:40 |
| VladDrac | but for some reason zope3 doesn't try to adapt my class (it just gives notfound) | 13:40 |
| VladDrac | I've given up on it, and undone de refactoring | 13:41 |
| J1m | Was this a single adapter or a multiadapter? | 13:42 |
| VladDrac | single | 13:42 |
| J1m | That's your problem. | 13:42 |
| J1m | As I told you last night, this should adapt the object and the request. | 13:42 |
| VladDrac | ah ok | 13:45 |
| J1m | Generally, you should expect anything having to do with presentation to adapt the request. :) | 13:46 |
| SteveA | the whole thing is very "grammatical" in a way | 13:47 |
| SteveA | "traverse myobject as appropriate for this request" | 13:48 |
| VladDrac | sorry, after all this hacking, my brain still hasn't transformed itself into a zope3 component :) | 13:49 |
| SteveA | in a language with rich cases, "myobject" would be accusative while "request" would be dative or instrumentive | 13:49 |
| SteveA | VladDrac: does dutch have cases? | 13:50 |
| VladDrac | I think you mean something like "onderwerp" and "leidend voorwerp" | 13:52 |
| VladDrac | but I'm not sure :) | 13:52 |
| VladDrac | I'm not to good in english grammar terminology | 13:52 |
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| faassen | SteveA: dutch doesn't have grammatical cases for nouns, if you mean that. | 14:16 |
| faassen | SteveA: not like lithuanian which has a zillion. German has cases, right? | 14:17 |
| faassen | SteveA: oh, right, accusative and dative and genetive (acquisition! :) | 14:17 |
| SteveA | yeah, german has cases | 14:21 |
| SteveA | the nominative, accusative, genetive and dative, iirc | 14:21 |
| faassen | yeah, I just had to synch up with the english terms for these grammatical thingies. | 14:21 |
| faassen | yeah. | 14:21 |
| faassen | nominative, genetive, dative and accusative tends to be the way they're ordered in the tables. :) | 14:21 |
| philiKON | SteveA, right, not in that order though | 14:21 |
| philiKON | faassen, correct | 14:21 |
| faassen | an auf hinter neben in uber unter vor zwichen | 14:21 |
| philiKON | the order is the latin order | 14:21 |
| faassen | right, I use the standard order. :) | 14:22 |
| philiKON | those are all dative :) | 14:22 |
| faassen | oh, I didn't remember that. :) | 14:22 |
| faassen | but I remember that thing.. | 14:22 |
| faassen | mit nach bei zeit ..something.. | 14:22 |
| philiKON | hehe, yes, it's funny how you remember those sayings | 14:22 |
| faassen | I told Felicia last night she should be glad she's learning Dutch, not German, and gave the cases as the ..case.. | 14:24 |
| faassen | to prove it. :) | 14:24 |
| j-w | faassen: I bet you didn't touch the topics of tussen-n, kofschip etc. yet ;) | 14:24 |
| faassen | yes, we did touch kofschip in fact. | 14:24 |
| faassen | as I actually did verbal conjucations. | 14:25 |
| faassen | het kofschip. | 14:25 |
| faassen | conjugations. | 14:25 |
| faassen | I don't know what tussen-n is. is that one of those newfangled thingies? | 14:25 |
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| regebro | drzoltron: Hi! | 15:19 |
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| drzoltron | regebro: hi | 16:52 |
| drzoltron | (sorry in a meeting) | 16:52 |
| drzoltron | regebro: just wanted to comment on your zope2 <> zope3 thing | 16:52 |
| regebro | Alright, shoot. :) | 16:52 |
| drzoltron | your headline said: zope2 vs zope2 ;) | 16:53 |
| drzoltron | ah you changed it ? | 16:53 |
| drzoltron | no it's still there: | 16:53 |
| drzoltron | I see many questions on the differences between Zope 3 and Zope 3 on mailing lists. Here is a short attempt to answer some of the most common ones. | 16:53 |
| regebro | No, but I see now in the textthat it sais Zoe 3 vs Zope3 | 16:53 |
| drzoltron | :) | 16:54 |
| regebro | The headline I would have noticed. :) | 16:54 |
| regebro | Fixed. | 16:54 |
| drzoltron | cool | 16:56 |
| drzoltron | thought you had a hotdog on your screen ;P | 16:56 |
| drzoltron | not a big problem | 16:56 |
| efge | problem is, there are many differences between zope 3 and zope 3 :) so many versions... | 16:56 |
| drzoltron | but disturbed me a little | 16:56 |
| drzoltron | efge: exactly | 16:56 |
| efge | j/k | 16:57 |
| drzoltron | thought at first regebro made a live diff utilizing XUL ;) | 16:57 |
| drzoltron | have to run | 16:58 |
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| _projekt01 | srichter, are you arrived? | 17:08 |
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| andres | Hi. | 17:12 |
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| andres | Again i have a question: I have a Choice Interface with possibilities realised through vocabularys. Is it possible to set the prevuriously selected <option> as selected? | 17:13 |
| andres | Is the question clear enough? | 17:14 |
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| srichter | andres: the standard widgets should already do that | 17:20 |
| andres | hm. Then i have a bug in my vocabulary... | 17:21 |
| srichter | only if it produces different keys for different call times | 17:27 |
| baldtrol | does anyone have a suggestion on where to read up on the event dispatch machinery, esp redispatching of events? or is that a 'documentation is the source code' kind of thing? :) | 17:28 |
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| jukart | J1m, ayt | 18:10 |
| J1m | yes | 18:11 |
| jukart | should I put a bug in the collector for the catalog reindex problem ? | 18:11 |
| J1m | yes | 18:11 |
| jukart | ok | 18:11 |
| J1m | Thanks! | 18:11 |
| jukart | or a missfeature :) | 18:13 |
| J1m | You pick. :) | 18:13 |
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| d2m | what is the [Refresh] button on the objects Metadata-view is made for ? it works identical to the [Save] button | 19:27 |
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| srichter | refresh *should* reset your input data | 19:33 |
| d2m | it does not | 19:33 |
| d2m | it saves instead | 19:33 |
| srichter | ok, then this is a bug | 19:33 |
| srichter | please report or even fix it :-) | 19:33 |
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| electricSqrl | where can i find my zope3 content objects in "app" when i do a zopectl debug? | 19:43 |
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| efge | list(app.keys()) lists them | 19:47 |
| efge | app['somename'] gets one | 19:47 |
| sm | aha | 19:47 |
| sm | no app.objectValues() in z3 ? | 19:47 |
| electricSqrl | AttributeError: 'Debugger' object has no attribute 'keys' | 19:47 |
| electricSqrl | i must be retarded, but i'll dig deeper :) | 19:47 |
| efge | sm app.values() , like dicts | 19:47 |
| efge | electricSqrl: then app is not the root object | 19:48 |
| efge | I don't know what names are available in z3 debug | 19:48 |
| J1m | See doc/DEBUG.txt. | 19:48 |
| J1m | app is a Debugger object. | 19:48 |
| J1m | Use it's root() method to get the root object. | 19:49 |
| J1m | *That* object is a mapping object. | 19:49 |
| sm | ahaa | 19:50 |
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| electricSqrl | and the magic peels away... thanks J1m... | 19:59 |
| electricSqrl | >>> root[u'Zultan'].values()[0].values()[0] | 19:59 |
| electricSqrl | <zwiki.comment.Comment object at 0xb6a9a22c> | 19:59 |
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| sm | there you go.. now you can probably use del to delete that dictionary entry | 20:02 |
| sm | I'd use [thekey] instead of values()[n], it's a little clearer | 20:03 |
| electricSqrl | agreed on the clarity :) | 20:03 |
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| sm | then I expect you can do >>> del root['Zultan']['PageId']['Commentid | 20:05 |
| sm | '] | 20:05 |
| electricSqrl | hmmm... root[u'Zultan'].keys() | 20:05 |
| electricSqrl | Out[11]: <OOBTreeItems object at 0xb6c70cf0> | 20:05 |
| electricSqrl | i thought zope3 containers must be id'd by unicode strings... | 20:05 |
| sm | ok, u'' if needed | 20:06 |
| SteveA | argh... the debug stuff is tightly coupled to the zodb. i have hacked around this in launchpad, but i'd like to do better. | 20:06 |
| sm | hmm, if keys are not strings perhaps your values()[0] way is best | 20:06 |
| electricSqrl | so SteveA, do you know how i can delete an object on the inside? (del doesnt work) | 20:06 |
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| sm | del root[u'Zultan'].values()[0].values()[0] | 20:08 |
| electricSqrl | yeah, i tried that... TypeError: object doesn't support item deletion | 20:08 |
| electricSqrl | arrr | 20:08 |
| sm | ah. :) | 20:08 |
| electricSqrl | :) | 20:08 |
| electricSqrl | my crash course in zodb... | 20:08 |
| electricSqrl | i can see the damn thing, i just cant delete it | 20:10 |
| sm | I'm surprised you couldn't undo the adding of it | 20:11 |
| J1m | SteveA, I'd like to redo the debugger in terms of WSGI | 20:11 |
| J1m | It's on my to-do list, but my to-do list is pretty long atm. | 20:11 |
| SteveA | sounds interesting | 20:12 |
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| nederhoed | VladDrac: busy? | 21:03 |
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| nederhoed | Hello, I have plans for a simple FreeMind mindmap product for Zope3 does that sound interesting to anyone? | 21:12 |
| nederhoed | maybe I should say "thoughts about" instead of plans :) | 21:12 |
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| tekNico | nederhoed: here's a thought. | 21:19 |
| tekNico | nederhoed: mind maps are usually hierarchical, and therefore too limited to reach their goal. | 21:21 |
| tekNico | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind_mapping | 21:21 |
| tekNico | nederhoed: the original "concept map" concept seems more useful, and generally applicable. | 21:21 |
| tekNico | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concept_map | 21:21 |
| tekNico | nederhoed: I have a few more links to recommend, if you are interested... :-) | 21:22 |
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| tekNico | nederhoed: well, two will suffice: | 21:24 |
| tekNico | http://www.rudi.net/bookshelf/classics/city/alexander/alexander1.shtml | 21:24 |
| tekNico | http://www.shirky.com/writings/ontology_overrated.html | 21:24 |
| nederhoed | merci, I'll check them out | 21:25 |
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