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| ignas | srichter, look atmodule aliases where ? | 00:07 |
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| srichter | zope.modulealias | 00:07 |
| ignas | and not in zope ? | 00:07 |
| ignas | i need such thing in a unit test | 00:07 |
| ignas | temporarily replace one module with astub | 00:07 |
| srichter | oh, so I think you can ues it from unit tests as well | 00:08 |
| srichter | oh, I see | 00:08 |
| srichter | that's easy | 00:08 |
| srichter | just use sys.modules | 00:08 |
| ignas | i have tried doing sys.modules["foo"] = StubClass(), yet it is not geting replaced :/ | 00:09 |
| efge | ignas: it won't replace code that has already loaded it, and has thus a reference to it | 00:10 |
| srichter | oh, because instances are around probably | 00:10 |
| ignas | i see :/ | 00:10 |
| efge | you probably have to rethink the way you do your tests | 00:10 |
| ignas | well - is there a way to stub twisted.internet.reactor in some way ? | 00:11 |
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| srichter | LOL | 00:11 |
| srichter | probably not | 00:11 |
| srichter | why do you need to stub it? | 00:11 |
| ignas | so i could test the code that is calling reactor.spawnProcess and the likes ... | 00:12 |
| ignas | or is foing callLater ... | 00:12 |
| ignas | s/foing/doing | 00:12 |
| srichter | reactor.spawnProcess is called froma a mthod/function inside module someName right? | 00:13 |
| srichter | in that case you can do: | 00:13 |
| srichter | someName.reactor = MyStub() | 00:13 |
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| ignas | srichter, it works, thanks | 00:16 |
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| srichter | no problem | 00:17 |
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| projekt01 | srichter, ayt? | 00:47 |
| srichter | yes | 00:48 |
| srichter | projekt01: what's up? | 00:48 |
| projekt01 | I need it for the javascripts | 00:48 |
| srichter | what do you need for JS? | 00:48 |
| srichter | still there? | 00:51 |
| projekt01 | JS are object oriented, so the order is very importent, especially if you load some base libraries and custom libraries where override some parts. | 00:52 |
| srichter | ok | 00:52 |
| srichter | we could provide a basic viewlet manager implementation that supports weights | 00:53 |
| projekt01 | +1, that would solve my usecase | 00:53 |
| srichter | ok, feel free to do that | 00:54 |
| srichter | I am currently merging in Gary's requirements into zope.contentprovider | 00:54 |
| projekt01 | cool | 00:54 |
| projekt01 | Ok, I will add a default weighted viewlet manager | 00:55 |
| srichter | projekt01: could you find me the original definition of "content provider" in the JAva world? | 01:02 |
| projekt01 | the presentation movei? | 01:03 |
| projekt01 | the presentation movie? | 01:03 |
| srichter | projekt01: do you know some sort of official paper with the definition of content provider? | 01:03 |
| srichter | I had one once, but I cannot find the link anymore | 01:03 |
| * projekt01 is looking for.... | 01:04 | |
| projekt01 | http://access1.sun.com/Video_Tutorials/PB/PB-1.html | 01:05 |
| srichter | ah, they just call it "provider" | 01:08 |
| projekt01 | yes, provider will provide content | 01:08 |
| projekt01 | or you can say "additional content" (additional to the main presentation view) | 01:10 |
| srichter | no, I want a link to strengthen my argument and documentation | 01:11 |
| srichter | I know what it means :-) | 01:11 |
| projekt01 | ;-) | 01:11 |
| srichter | something like that for Access 1 would be good: http://java.sun.com/products/jndi/tutorial/getStarted/concepts/glossary.html | 01:12 |
| projekt01 | Access 1 ?, you mean for clarify the base for discussion? | 01:13 |
| srichter | yeah | 01:13 |
| projekt01 | Yes, absolutly | 01:14 |
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| projekt01 | srichter, btw, this viewlets are really great to implement. I have allmost merged my pagelets in Tiks. | 01:18 |
| srichter | awesome! | 01:18 |
| srichter | I am glad you like it | 01:18 |
| projekt01 | they are really usable ;-) | 01:19 |
| projekt01 | srichter, do you know what's about the idea to inject javascript code into headers with a pipeline? Is this idea still there or gone with viewlets or subviews? | 01:22 |
| srichter | well, it could be replaced with a special view class using content providers, but in general it is still applicable | 01:24 |
| srichter | as I mentioned in the content proivder README.txt file, I think content providers are orthogonal to pipes | 01:25 |
| projekt01 | yes, I agree. | 01:25 |
| srichter | (in other words they are independent concepts that can be used together) | 01:25 |
| srichter | so the proposal is definitely still on | 01:25 |
| projekt01 | I'm not sure if the pipeline concept can recognize that a specific viewlet is used | 01:26 |
| projekt01 | ...means would be nice to be able to inject JS based on used viewlets | 01:27 |
| srichter | right, you would have viewlets that create some sort of marker for the next step in the pipe | 01:31 |
| projekt01 | Ah, ok | 01:31 |
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| masonf | is there any way to put code in my TALS tags without editing any zcml | 02:02 |
| masonf | <tals:block content="python:here.doStuff()"></tals:block> | 02:03 |
| srichter | huh? | 02:04 |
| srichter | the code above is already bad, because it contains Python expressions | 02:04 |
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| gdsgdsgvdd | i am working on zope3.1 and getting error when trying to import zapi.servicenames.Authentication | 10:12 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | the error says componentLookupError: Authentication | 10:13 |
| gdsgdsgvdd | and the line where this error is generated is :pluggableauth = zapi.getService(zapi.servicenames.Authentication, context=self.context) | 10:14 |
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| gdsgdsgvdd | any idea.... | 10:15 |
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| d2m | how would i set the default FileFactory for FTP-upload for objects without extensions ? if i create an adapter with name="" i get a conflicting configuration action | 12:29 |
| d2m | ok, i have put the adapter definition into 'etc/overrides.zcml' - very nice | 12:37 |
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| srichter | hdima: does the mkzopeinstance script use the PLAIN password manager by default? | 15:37 |
| srichter | (I guess we could also make SHA the default) | 15:37 |
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| srichter | hdima: also, will old principal.zcml files work with the new code? | 15:40 |
| * andrew_m is away: post office.. back in ~30min | 15:40 | |
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| projekt01 | srichter, are you working on the content provider branch? | 15:46 |
| srichter | projekt01: no, I am done | 15:46 |
| projekt01 | Ok, can I merge the trunk back to the content provider branch? | 15:46 |
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| projekt01 | srichter, ...for testing the Tiks packages where depends already on the new message factory | 15:48 |
| hdima | srichter: yes and yes | 15:50 |
| hdima | mkzopeinstance lets you select a password manager to use | 15:51 |
| srichter | hdima: yeah, I saw that, so I guess you are ready to merge? | 15:52 |
| srichter | projekt01: but that's no good, because the branch has to be workable itself | 15:52 |
| hdima | not yet... | 15:52 |
| hdima | I want to create a simple zpasswd script | 15:53 |
| srichter | projekt01: note, however, that I merged all the code to the trunk now; yipee! | 15:53 |
| srichter | hdima: ahh, cool | 15:53 |
| hdima | But I want to merge the branch before weekend | 15:54 |
| srichter | awesome | 15:54 |
| projekt01 | I guess the branch doesn't work since helmut was merging the message factory in only the viewlet package | 15:54 |
| srichter | (don'tforget to write a nice entry in CHANGES.txt ;-) | 15:54 |
| hdima | Ok :) | 15:54 |
| srichter | projekt01: right | 15:54 |
| srichter | projekt01: it's all fixed in the trunk now; at least I did not see any complaints | 15:55 |
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| projekt01 | Did you cleanup the message factory checkin? | 15:56 |
| srichter | yes | 15:57 |
| projekt01 | Ah, ok | 15:57 |
| srichter | otherwise we would have many deprecation warnings | 15:57 |
| projekt01 | That's fine | 15:57 |
| projekt01 | srichter, ah cool, the viewlets are also landed in the trunk, so I can use the trunk again to test Tiks | 15:59 |
| srichter | yes | 16:01 |
| projekt01 | cool, the Tiks pagelet to viewlets are migrated, now I have to take a look at the latest content provider API changes. | 16:02 |
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| srichter | projekt01: that should not be too problematic | 16:08 |
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| projekt01 | ok, did you think about the portlet implementation since our last discussion? | 16:08 |
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| srichter | projekt01: no, I did not have time yet | 16:18 |
| srichter | but I am convinced that we will need a special view base class | 16:18 |
| projekt01 | srichter, Ok, I let you know if I'm ready to start working on this | 16:20 |
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| srichter | tarek: are you there? | 17:37 |
| srichter | tarek: what's the status of the XML-RPC discovery branch? | 17:39 |
| tarek | srichter, hi | 17:39 |
| tarek | i need to merge it, i think i'll do it tonite or tomorrow | 17:40 |
| srichter | cool | 17:40 |
| tarek | i have added an alarm in my calendar for that ;) | 17:40 |
| srichter | great | 17:42 |
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| srichter | hdima: are you planning to finish the language namespace work before November 1 as well? | 17:44 |
| tarek | zope.org is slow as heck | 17:50 |
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| srichter | tarek: yeah, sometimes it is | 17:53 |
| hdima | srichter: yes, I'll merge it tomorrow | 17:54 |
| srichter | fantastic | 17:55 |
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| srichter | philiKON: what's the state of the "philikon-widget-subdirective" branch? | 17:55 |
| philiKON | defunct i think | 17:56 |
| philiKON | i hadn't thought hard enough about the problem so i kept changing more and more stuff | 17:56 |
| philiKON | was a mess | 17:56 |
| srichter | ok, I'll remove it | 17:56 |
| srichter | ok? | 17:56 |
| philiKON | ok | 17:56 |
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| srichter | philiKON: the "ZopeX3-3.0.0-Zope-2.8" branch is actively maintained, right? | 17:59 |
| philiKON | yes | 17:59 |
| philiKON | urr, no | 17:59 |
| philiKON | delete it | 17:59 |
| srichter | ok | 17:59 |
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| srichter | J1m: are you planning to merge "jim-call-checkers" before November 1? | 18:14 |
| srichter | philiKON: I get security proxied zope.i18nmessageid.message.Message objects; any ideas why? | 18:18 |
| philiKON | no. this shouldn't happen | 18:19 |
| andres | One question: Does somebody now, whats the prefered way, to have multiple addforms with zope.formlib on one page, so they could be submittet together? | 18:19 |
| philiKON | srichter, have you checked zope.app.security._protections* ? | 18:19 |
| andres | benji, ? | 18:19 |
| srichter | philiKON: let me do this next | 18:19 |
| srichter | from where is protect() called? | 18:21 |
| philiKON | uuuuh | 18:21 |
| philiKON | grep -rI "protect()" * | 18:21 |
| philiKON | :) | 18:21 |
| srichter | since I saw this problem first in functional tests in SchoolTool, I suspect this function is never called | 18:22 |
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| philiKON | srichter, i remember there was a discussiona bout this module & function | 18:24 |
| philiKON | but i don't rememberr the consensus | 18:24 |
| srichter | me too | 18:25 |
| srichter | I also get suddenly a lot of implicit i18n:translate warnings; I guess the warning message did not work well with the old message id | 18:26 |
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| benji | andres, | 18:29 |
| benji | I'd use formlib | 18:30 |
| faassen | benji: he asked the question on context of that already. :) | 18:30 |
| benji | oh, sorry too much to read :) | 18:30 |
| d2m | FileFactories need one named adapter per file extension -- do i copy/paste the same adapter definition for each extension ? | 18:31 |
| andres | benji, but i cant use one of the baseclasses then, or? | 18:31 |
| philiKON | d2m, well, only the zcml directive... | 18:31 |
| philiKON | d2m, but yes | 18:31 |
| d2m | ok, inside teh Factory class i have to check for the extension again - no ? | 18:32 |
| philiKON | if you need it for some reason, sure | 18:32 |
| benji | andres, are you trying to have one for for adding one of two different content types? | 18:32 |
| d2m | philiKON: i modified you 'page' content object, added a HTML source type (html is just passed through without modification), now trying to set the corret text type depending on file extension | 18:33 |
| andres | I want both: Adding multiple objects (same schema) at once, and Adding multiple objects with out of different schemas. | 18:33 |
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| philiKON | d2m, ah. i think you can also register an unnamed filefactory adapter that will always be called | 18:34 |
| philiKON | d2m, then you can simply make that decision there | 18:34 |
| andres | benji, does that answer your question? | 18:34 |
| philiKON | d2m, instead of registering it twice or three times | 18:34 |
| d2m | philiKON:, yes, but that conflicts with the default adapter (--> File) | 18:35 |
| benji | andres, I'm afraid I still dont understand, lets take one use case at a time, describe "Adding multiple objects (same schema) at once" | 18:36 |
| philiKON | d2m, make it an override :) | 18:36 |
| d2m | philiKON: i did, but then i have no Files anymore | 18:36 |
| philiKON | you can still create files upon other extensions | 18:36 |
| d2m | well sure | 18:36 |
| andres | benji, Lets say, i have a Object Answer. And i want to add 10 answers at once. | 18:36 |
| benji | andres, ah, ok... thinking | 18:37 |
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| benji | andres, the best route would probably be to assign a different prefix to each form so you can tell them apart | 18:40 |
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| andres | benji, i have that. | 18:45 |
| benji | ok, so tha's working? | 18:45 |
| benji | s/tha/that/ | 18:46 |
| andres | But then you have to rewrite the @action stuff, because if you write @action('Add'... it only works with the prefix you set before. | 18:46 |
| andres | that means, you just add one object. | 18:46 |
| andres | As all other have to have a different prefix. | 18:47 |
| srichter | ok, the way protect() is called is inheritely broken, I think | 18:48 |
| benji | andres, don't know about that; I don't think I've used actions yet :/ | 18:49 |
| andres | benji, till now i thought, you wrote zope.formlib ;-) | 18:49 |
| benji | nope :) | 18:50 |
| benji | formlib is J1m's fault | 18:50 |
| benji | :) | 18:50 |
| srichter | philiKON: yep, so the NoProxy is not set during functional tests | 18:50 |
| andres | Not that i say anybody is to fault because of that, but I _hate_ the feeling, that i have to rewrite even more... | 18:51 |
| * andres is lazy. | 18:52 | |
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| VladDrac | if I want to restore some non-serializable state, what method do I need to hook into? | 18:59 |
| VladDrac | I thought __getstate__ but that doesn't seem to work | 18:59 |
| srichter | I think you need both, __getstate__ and __setstate__ | 19:01 |
| srichter | and you need to be able to refer to the object | 19:01 |
| srichter | see zope.component.site | 19:01 |
| VladDrac | what's in zope.compnent.site? | 19:02 |
| VladDrac | zope.component.adapter uses getstate/setstate | 19:02 |
| VladDrac | hmm ok I need to hook into setstate | 19:06 |
| VladDrac | it's from an objectperspective (set the data in the object from zodb), not the other way around | 19:07 |
| VladDrac | still feels like a hack though | 19:07 |
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| philiKON | if you can afford having your object reconstructed from scratch, you can also use __reduce__ | 19:09 |
| philiKON | it returns a tuple of arguments that should be passed to __init__ to recreate the object | 19:10 |
| VladDrac | do you know of any examples/docs? I don't really see how this works | 19:12 |
| philiKON | python lib reference... | 19:14 |
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| efge | what's the name for a subscriber that's a multiadapter, a multi-subscriber ? | 19:20 |
| philiKON | i guess so :) | 19:21 |
| philiKON | there's no explicit name in the api for it, though | 19:21 |
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| VladDrac | ok | 19:37 |
| VladDrac | I give up | 19:37 |
| VladDrac | I'll never reach zope3-zen | 19:37 |
| VladDrac | another hour wasted on trivial functionality :\ | 19:38 |
| benji | what are you trying to do, VladDrac? | 19:38 |
| VladDrac | trying to handle/recover from errors in a formlib add action | 19:38 |
| VladDrac | but okay, never mind, I'll work around it :) | 19:39 |
| * VladDrac 's just slightly frustrated | 19:40 | |
| benji | ok | 19:40 |
| VladDrac | and my customer is getting annoyed at me for not getting any real results | 19:40 |
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| andres | VladDrac, i know this feeling way too good... | 19:56 |
| andres | not comming forward, wasting time, and no real results... | 19:56 |
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| J1m | I haaaaaaaaaaate svn:externals. | 20:46 |
| SteveA | we're finishing the switch of launchpad code to bzr tomorrow | 20:53 |
| SteveA | with history | 20:53 |
| SteveA | our setup uses something similar to svn externals | 20:53 |
| VladDrac | bzr? | 20:53 |
| SteveA | also known as bazaar-ng, also known as bazaar 2 | 20:54 |
| SteveA | distributed RCS system written in python | 20:54 |
| SteveA | GPL | 20:54 |
| SteveA | the distributed nature makes it nice for sprints | 20:54 |
| SteveA | you can do lots of commits and stuff, and cross-merge between the work of different people at the sprint | 20:55 |
| SteveA | and then merge to mainline all in one go at the end | 20:55 |
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| andres | J1m, is there a way to create multiple objects iin one addform? So, that i can fill out 10, submit them, and all are checked and created? (with zope.formlib i mean). | 21:15 |
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| J1m | sure | 21:15 |
| J1m | But you can't using an adding then. | 21:16 |
| J1m | You would need to override a bunch of the add form logic. | 21:16 |
| andres | This doesnt seem to be done easily because when I use prefixes, the Add action only works either not, or only with one of those (that with the same prefix) | 21:16 |
| J1m | You might be better off just creating a form from scratch, rather than using add form. | 21:16 |
| J1m | I don't know what you just said. | 21:17 |
| J1m | I wouldn't use the standard add form. | 21:17 |
| J1m | I'd create a custom form with formlib. | 21:17 |
| andres | Ok, I will do so. Actually that is what i started to already... Just wanted to know if there is a easy way to it, that i overlooked. | 21:18 |
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| srichter | projekt01: do we still need the roger-contentprovider branch? | 21:40 |
| srichter | I guess it contains some portlet code, but that could be moved somewhere else | 21:40 |
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| srichter | J1m: are there any outstanding tasks (feature-wise) that have to be completed for 3.2, other than the ones already in progress | 22:21 |
| srichter | btw, unfortunately, wget will not work for the static apidoc, since it does not replace all links to relative ones; so we have to write a custom utility | 22:24 |
| J1m | This is even with the option telling it to replace relative links with absolute ones? | 22:24 |
| srichter | yes, telling it to replace the URLs to local relative paths | 22:25 |
| srichter | it replaces a few but not all | 22:25 |
| J1m | hm, odd | 22:25 |
| J1m | I don't know about tasks. | 22:25 |
| srichter | and I cannot just doa search and replace, because it differs from directory to directory | 22:25 |
| srichter | ok | 22:25 |
| J1m | I want to integrate the new test runner. | 22:25 |
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| srichter | I am looking forward to this | 22:26 |
| J1m | That may be all I have time for, | 22:26 |
| J1m | I just integrated it w z2. | 22:26 |
| srichter | I saw | 22:26 |
| J1m | I want to add a feature to it before I add it to z3. | 22:26 |
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| J1m | So that it has all of the functionality from the old one. | 22:27 |
| srichter | ok | 22:27 |
| J1m | That is probably all I'll get to do this week. | 22:27 |
| srichter | I really want to encourage Marius to port some of the ST test runner features, once you are done | 22:27 |
| srichter | ok | 22:27 |
| J1m | I've got a few odds and ends that I'll do opportunistically if I have time. | 22:31 |
| J1m | I want to lool at projekt01's security issue. | 22:31 |
| J1m | look | 22:31 |
| srichter | ok | 22:32 |
| srichter | you could consider this a bug anyways ;-) | 22:32 |
| srichter | there are a lot of bugs in the collector, so we will definitely need the time | 22:32 |
| benji | J1m, are we planning a bug day, or are we going to do them a bit at a time? | 22:33 |
| srichter | yes | 22:33 |
| J1m | benji, I think a bug day would be a fine idea after the freeze | 22:34 |
| srichter | What about November 4? | 22:34 |
| J1m | dunno | 22:35 |
| srichter | too early? | 22:35 |
| J1m | dunno :) | 22:35 |
| srichter | he he | 22:35 |
| J1m | If you schedule I'll come, | 22:35 |
| J1m | I don't know about others here. | 22:35 |
| srichter | ok | 22:36 |
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| srichter | projekt01: can we remove the roger-contentprovider branch? | 22:58 |
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