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| projekt01 | srichter, ayt? | 02:42 |
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| newpers | I was reading an article about PyCon, where Michael Bernstein and Andy Dustman wrote a weblog application for Zope3. Is it online? | 07:44 |
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| philiKON | it is *somewhere* | 07:59 |
| philiKON | they once asked about putting it on the z3base | 08:00 |
| philiKON | we would've welcomed that | 08:00 |
| philiKON | but in the end they weren't happy with the open development model of codespeak | 08:00 |
| philiKON | at least so it seemed | 08:00 |
| philiKON | haven't heard from them since | 08:00 |
| newpers | heh | 08:03 |
| newpers | thanks | 08:03 |
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| philiKON | it's too bad b/c i think if it were at the z3base, people would've picked it up, developed it further etc. | 08:06 |
| philiKON | like you :) | 08:06 |
| newpers | haha | 08:08 |
| newpers | like me :) | 08:08 |
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| philiKON | sure, why not | 08:25 |
| newpers | exactly | 08:36 |
| newpers | night | 08:53 |
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| projekt01 | srichter, ayt? | 15:14 |
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| srichter | projekt01: yep | 15:14 |
| srichter | projekt01: sorry I missed you last night | 15:15 |
| projekt01 | I need to implement ordered viewlets for the bsoton skin | 15:15 |
| projekt01 | What the preferred way to do this? | 15:15 |
| projekt01 | np | 15:15 |
| tiredbones | projekt01, what is the boston skin? | 15:16 |
| projekt01 | tirebones, a replacement for the rotterdam skin | 15:17 |
| srichter | projekt01: Implement a viewlet manager that knows how to sort viewlets by weight | 15:18 |
| srichter | we probably also need a way to specify a schema of special data that can be passed in from the directive | 15:18 |
| projekt01 | I would like to use a interface IOrderedViewlet and so we can set the weight in the metaconfigure directive if this interface is implemented | 15:19 |
| projekt01 | Ah, you mean a generic concept with a schema for additional attributes where are used in metaconfigure. | 15:20 |
| srichter | call it IWeightedViewlet | 15:20 |
| srichter | all viewlets are sorted, just not by weight all the time ;-) | 15:21 |
| srichter | projekt01: right | 15:21 |
| projekt01 | That would be cool and very useable concept for the future | 15:21 |
| srichter | I know | 15:22 |
| projekt01 | What should I do with the boston skin right now? Should we wait with releasing the boston skin | 15:22 |
| srichter | I just did not have time to implement this yet | 15:22 |
| projekt01 | ;-) | 15:22 |
| srichter | projekt01: no, you can still implement the viewlet manager | 15:23 |
| srichter | except that the weight on the viewlets will be strings and not integers | 15:23 |
| srichter | so when you sort you have to convert them | 15:23 |
| srichter | or your viewlet implements a method called getWeight that does the conversion for you | 15:24 |
| projekt01 | Ok, I'll implement this. I'll be ready tomorrow morning. Do you have time for a review, tomorrow? | 15:25 |
| srichter | yeah | 15:26 |
| projekt01 | How long will the trunk be frozen? Or do you support a branch for the release? | 15:27 |
| srichter | 2-3 weeks | 15:27 |
| srichter | shorter if people are too annoyed | 15:27 |
| projekt01 | Ok | 15:27 |
| projekt01 | Ok, so then we can add a branch for implementing portlets next week and share our ideas. | 15:29 |
| srichter | sure | 15:34 |
| srichter | I wrote the greatest functional test ever this weekend! :-) | 15:37 |
| projekt01 | for the apidoc? | 15:38 |
| srichter | yep | 15:39 |
| srichter | its the static apidoc generator :-) | 15:39 |
| srichter | it tells me any URL that is broken and any ReST formatting isuse is the trunk | 15:39 |
| projekt01 | cool, can you use it for check the interface docstrings? | 15:40 |
| srichter | yes, but you could do that before too | 15:40 |
| srichter | just open the apidoc interface documentation | 15:40 |
| srichter | and look at the concole for the output | 15:41 |
| projekt01 | Ok | 15:41 |
| projekt01 | How big is the static version of apidoc? | 15:42 |
| srichter | I think it is about 180 MB right now | 15:42 |
| srichter | with 8000 links | 15:42 |
| projekt01 | Uhh | 15:42 |
| srichter | 8477 links to be precise | 15:42 |
| srichter | there is a lot of information duplication right now | 15:43 |
| projekt01 | Yup | 15:43 |
| srichter | the static apidoc will definitely be not the kind of thing that you want to ship with the distribution, but that's ok | 15:43 |
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| srichter | I don't care how big it is really | 15:43 |
| srichter | there can be some optimization for the size | 15:44 |
| srichter | for example, som interfaces are documented three times | 15:44 |
| srichter | and I can bring it down to 2, if I would try hard | 15:44 |
| projekt01 | I think that's ok for a initial version. | 15:46 |
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| philiKON | srichter, is formlib going to be part of zope 3.2? | 18:21 |
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| srichter | philiKON: aehm, I think so | 18:29 |
| philiKON | ok | 18:29 |
| philiKON | just making sure | 18:30 |
| philiKON | question is, whether to include it in zope 2.9 then | 18:30 |
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| srichter | philiKON: do you know how to turn off deprecation warnings? | 19:01 |
| philiKON | sorry, no | 19:01 |
| srichter | ok, thanks | 19:01 |
| efge | srichter: see WarningInterceptor in http://svn.zope.org/CMF/trunk/CMFCore/tests/base/testcase.py?rev=37355&view=auto | 19:03 |
| srichter | thanks | 19:03 |
| efge | hm that's probably not what you want | 19:03 |
| srichter | ok, that's what I thought I had to do | 19:03 |
| srichter | I was just hoping the arning package had something better | 19:04 |
| srichter | I just want to disable deprecation warnings while running the static apidoc generator | 19:04 |
| philiKON | wasn't there a command line for python? | 19:05 |
| efge | srichter: see ZODB/tests/testZODB.py | 19:05 |
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| srichter | efge: ok, this looks good | 19:06 |
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| srichter | J1m: what would be the best way to contribute docsting fixes to ZODB? | 19:27 |
| J1m | uh, is that a trick question? | 19:28 |
| srichter | no | 19:28 |
| srichter | can I just edit the external on the trunk and check it in? | 19:28 |
| philiKON | srichter, no | 19:28 |
| J1m | You can check out zodb | 19:28 |
| philiKON | srichter, you have to check them in on a zodb check out | 19:28 |
| J1m | make the fixes | 19:29 |
| srichter | or do I go to the trunk version of ZODB? | 19:29 |
| J1m | and check them in. | 19:29 |
| J1m | you go to whatever version you want to change | 19:29 |
| srichter | but the externals we have are tags, right | 19:29 |
| srichter | so they should not change | 19:29 |
| J1m | If you want to contribute changes to zodb, you need to check out zodb. | 19:30 |
| J1m | If you want to get those into zope, you need to change the externals. | 19:31 |
| J1m | You can't check in changes to tags | 19:31 |
| srichter | right | 19:31 |
| srichter | ok | 19:31 |
| J1m | so, you check in changes on branches and either make new tags, or use revisions rather than tags. | 19:31 |
| J1m | in your externals. | 19:31 |
| srichter | I guess it would be best to ask Tim to create new tags for the externals | 19:32 |
| srichter | right | 19:32 |
| J1m | uh, sure | 19:33 |
| J1m | I don't really like using tags for externals. | 19:33 |
| J1m | I prefer revision numbers. | 19:33 |
| J1m | I'm sick of the madness of making new tags just to get a change | 19:33 |
| srichter | ok, that would lower the bar a lot | 19:33 |
| srichter | yep | 19:33 |
| philiKON | also, i just realized another advantage of using -r for externals instead of tags | 19:34 |
| philiKON | when somebody changed the external and you do svn up, you don't get an .OLD directory | 19:34 |
| philiKON | instead it updates the existing directory | 19:34 |
| philiKON | to the new revision | 19:34 |
| J1m | yup | 19:35 |
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| srichter | philiKON: btw, the generation time for the static apidoc dropped to 3200 secs, ~8500 links and ~190 MB | 19:56 |
| philiKON | nice, so a little less than an hour | 19:57 |
| srichter | yep | 19:57 |
| srichter | I think it could drop another 10-20 minutes, if the code browser would point interface detail links to the interface documentation module instead of rendering the interface details again | 19:58 |
| * philiKON just managed to build zope 2 using zpkgutils | 19:58 | |
| srichter | cool | 19:58 |
| philiKON | of course, the main work was already done by fdrake earlier when he added the DEPENDENCIES.cfg and SETUP.cfg for all the zope 2 packages where necessary | 19:59 |
| philiKON | (e.g. C extension modules) | 19:59 |
| srichter | right | 19:59 |
| srichter | but getting it built too s nice as well | 19:59 |
| philiKON | still, i'm happy since i don't understand zpkgutils all that well ;) | 19:59 |
| philiKON | it's important for me, now i don't have to copy in a pre-built zope 3.2 tree into lib/python/zope | 20:00 |
| philiKON | i can now build zope 3.2 inside zope 2 | 20:00 |
| srichter | yeah | 20:01 |
| srichter | I think this is the overall benefit of everyone using zpkgtools | 20:01 |
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