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| benji | srichter, AYT? | 00:40 |
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| srichter | yeah | 00:41 |
| srichter | benji: pong | 00:41 |
| benji | earlier today you referred to "the ZopeInterface release directry"; where would that be? | 00:41 |
| srichter | releases | 00:42 |
| srichter | Zope3/releases | 00:42 |
| srichter | and you also need to create the ZopeTestBrowser.cfg | 00:43 |
| srichter | the SchoolTool repository has also some examples | 00:43 |
| benji | srichter, is there a "makeing a ZopeInterface release" document I can read somewhere? (I've made my files for zope.testbrowser, I just need to know how to actually generate the package) | 00:50 |
| srichter | aehm, no, but let me check STRelaionship | 00:53 |
| srichter | benji: see http://paste.plone.org/857 | 00:55 |
| srichter | this is my STRelationship-test.py | 00:55 |
| srichter | especially interesting are the commoand line calls | 00:55 |
| benji | ok, thanks | 00:56 |
| srichter | actually, all you need is zpkg -C ZopeTestBrowser.cfg | 00:56 |
| srichter | -x allows you to exclude a dependency from being packaged | 00:57 |
| srichter | (but there is no a cfg fiel option for this too) | 00:57 |
| benji | srichter, any clue what "unknown resource: ZopeTestbrowser" means? | 01:00 |
| srichter | can you checkin what you have? | 01:01 |
| benji | sure | 01:01 |
| benji | srichter, done | 01:02 |
| srichter | I think the default collection is wrong | 01:03 |
| benji | what should it be? | 01:05 |
| srichter | hold on, I am looking | 01:05 |
| benji | k | 01:05 |
| srichter | ah, you have not extended the Zope.map file | 01:05 |
| srichter | yep, that was it | 01:07 |
| srichter | I get a tar ball to build | 01:07 |
| benji | great! | 01:07 |
| srichter | ok, committed | 01:08 |
| benji | hmm, the generated tar doesn't have any of the testbrowser code in it :( | 01:21 |
| benji | I don't have time to work on this now, I'll talke to you later srichter | 01:21 |
| srichter | ok | 01:21 |
| srichter | see ya later | 01:21 |
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| mp | zope3 lacks "standard library" documentation | 01:36 |
| mp | really badly | 01:36 |
| mp | apidoc might do, but it should be heavily improved | 01:36 |
| srichter | how so? | 01:37 |
| srichter | those type of comments are very dumb | 01:37 |
| srichter | please tell me what you do not like and I consider changing apidoc to satisfy your requests | 01:38 |
| srichter | many people really like apidoc | 01:38 |
| srichter | note that it is already a thousand times better than anything you could ever generate with epydoc or similar | 01:38 |
| srichter | (I'll note that I have incorporated any changes that were suggested until now) | 01:40 |
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| mp | it's just worse than php library docs.. also, I end up reading zope source code often. reading source code is educating - source code is good and readable... but, you know, there is still difference between j2se api docs and apidoc. | 01:40 |
| mp | does zope apidoc support references (links) do other parts of documentation? | 01:41 |
| mp | like @see zope.app.whatever.SomeClass? | 01:42 |
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| srichter | it has links wherever it is sensible | 01:42 |
| srichter | it has the README.txt files compiled to a book structure | 01:42 |
| srichter | (note that all of APIDOC is autogenerated from existing information) | 01:42 |
| mp | also, even if apidoc (as a code) is good, there are too few comments, esp with examples | 01:42 |
| srichter | comments? | 01:43 |
| srichter | There are examples in the book README.txt files | 01:43 |
| mp | apidoc is (among other things) generated from comments in code | 01:43 |
| srichter | unfortunately we have not yet wroitten those for all modules, since we started using doctests later | 01:44 |
| srichter | it is generated from doc strings | 01:44 |
| srichter | but not comments, which would make no sense | 01:44 |
| srichter | ok, I gotta go; please send me a detailed E-mail with suggestions to the list | 01:44 |
| mp | well, I'm just observing myself as I'm learning zope - things are pretty easy and straightforward, but getting them to work for the first time takes too long | 01:44 |
| srichter | did you read the two books? | 01:45 |
| mp | ok, I meant docstrings not comments... | 01:45 |
| srichter | and the other primers? | 01:45 |
| mp | nope, I did not read books, I've read docs available online | 01:45 |
| srichter | well, tough luck for you | 01:45 |
| srichter | I cannot help you then | 01:45 |
| srichter | you should read the books | 01:45 |
| srichter | they get you started really well | 01:46 |
| mp | just my 0.02$, based my experience with java and php, as a person that usually at some point gets to do what I wanted to do ;) | 01:47 |
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| mp | how do I use name chooser? how do I implement name chooser? | 15:45 |
| srichter | if you look at APIDOC you see that INameChooser is implemented by bugtracker.tracker.BugTrackerNameChooser | 15:47 |
| srichter | so there is your example | 15:47 |
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| sm | morning all | 17:55 |
| sm | I think I'm seeing the 3.1 directory layout for the first time | 17:56 |
| sm | is most of the source under Dependencies/ now ? | 17:56 |
| srichter | in the TAR ball it is | 17:56 |
| srichter | but if you install it, it looks as usual | 17:56 |
| srichter | the distribution package does not have a working structure at all (on purpose) | 17:57 |
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| sm | I see.. thanks srichter | 17:57 |
| srichter | you are welcome | 18:03 |
| srichter | note that every package in the Dependencies directory will become eventually its own distributed package | 18:04 |
| srichter | like an EGG | 18:04 |
| sm | excellent | 18:04 |
| sm | still a bit confused.. how I get i18nextract.py back ? | 18:05 |
| srichter | once you do make install it should be in the bin directory | 18:05 |
| srichter | once you do "make install" it should be in the bin directory | 18:05 |
| sm | apparently not :/ | 18:06 |
| sm | it's left in zopeskel | 18:06 |
| srichter | ahh, you also have to create the instance | 18:06 |
| srichter | because the utilities (executables) are only created for each instance | 18:06 |
| sm | ahaa | 18:06 |
| srichter | the idea is that you can test the installation, but not run it | 18:07 |
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| yota | srichter: hi :) | 18:20 |
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| yota | srichter: I have ssh_host_rsa_key file in the Zope3 trunk directoy after co | 18:21 |
| srichter | yes | 18:22 |
| yota | ok it's normal, cool. | 18:23 |
| yota | thx | 18:25 |
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