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| drzoltron_ | sashav: how ? | 00:10 |
| sashav | look for zodb tools or google, don't remember exactly | 00:10 |
| drzoltron_ | ok thx | 00:11 |
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| zmi_junkie | my zope3 revision 40087 bails out at etc/securitypolicy.zcml", line 11.2 / ConfigurationError: ('Unknown directive', u'http://namespaces.zope.org/zope', u'role') | 00:59 |
| zmi_junkie | is this something known ? | 01:00 |
| newpers | + | 01:03 |
| newpers | sorry, i accidently bumped my keyboard | 01:04 |
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| projekt01 | srichter, is the cache package inlcuded in the release? | 04:27 |
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| VladDrac | damn | 12:01 |
| VladDrac | I have to do some ugly stuff to get my datastructure included in the apidoc.. | 12:01 |
| VladDrac | import pprint | 12:01 |
| VladDrac | pp = pprint.PrettyPrinter(indent=4) | 12:01 |
| VladDrac | __doc__ = "<pre>" + pp.pformat(exc_map).replace("<", "<").replace(">", ">") + "</pre>" | 12:01 |
| VladDrac | anyone have a better solution? :) | 12:01 |
| VladDrac | (yeah could move most of it to a function, I know :) | 12:01 |
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| VladDrac | mogge | 12:24 |
| zmi_junkie | mogge everybody - more luck today with Zope3 checkout 40092 ;-) | 12:24 |
| zmi_junkie | I am running with setuidgid in front | 12:24 |
| zmi_junkie | then I get problems with zwiki-configure.zcml because | 12:25 |
| zmi_junkie | wiki was trying to make some weired mail-queueing dir in my *sources* | 12:26 |
| hdima | VladDrac: can you just use __docformat__ = "reStructuredText" at the module level? | 12:26 |
| zmi_junkie | without setuidgid I would not have noticed this ;-) | 12:26 |
| zmi_junkie | but where to report ? | 12:26 |
| VladDrac | hdima: the problem is that apidoc only includes classes, no module-level class/constant definitions | 12:26 |
| hdima | do you try to set __doc__ for module? | 12:29 |
| zmi_junkie | found the Issue Collector ;-) | 12:30 |
| VladDrac | ()*&^*(&^*&( crap rest | 12:42 |
| * VladDrac is *again* spending valuable time doing absolute crap | 12:42 | |
| * VladDrac gives up | 12:42 | |
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| VladDrac | structuring a datastructure (nested) in ReST seems impossible as well | 12:43 |
| VladDrac | <string>:6: (WARNING/2) Definition list ends without a blank line; unexpected unindent. | 12:44 |
| * VladDrac just puts the entire definition on one line | 12:44 | |
| VladDrac | will probably annoy the hell out of the API users but oh well | 12:44 |
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| jenner | heya | 12:57 |
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| JoaoJoao | good morning | 14:05 |
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| philiKON | heya | 16:19 |
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| tiredbones | Firday I updated my working copy and now I can't start zope. I'm getting "ImportError: no module named cPersistence". Where would I look to see if this is a known problem? | 16:38 |
| benji | tiredbones, did you recompile (run make)? It sounds like the persistence code needs to be compiled. | 16:42 |
| tiredbones | benji, I thought that one only had to do "svn co ....". I take from what your saying I have to do this everytime I do acheckout? | 16:46 |
| tiredbones | benji, thanks, I found my install instruction and reread them. | 16:50 |
| tiredbones | Does anyone have a script that automates the process of checking out a working copy and running make? | 16:54 |
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| d2m | tiredbones: cd working_copy_folder; svn up; make all | 16:57 |
| tiredbones | d2m. thanks | 17:01 |
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| philiKON | srichter, does zope.app really depend on zope.testbrowser? | 18:46 |
| benji | philiKON, I think it is a "testing dependency" | 18:46 |
| benji | i.e. only the tests are dependent | 18:47 |
| philiKON | that's still a dependency | 18:47 |
| philiKON | ok | 18:47 |
| philiKON | maybe i should just grep | 18:47 |
| philiKON | that' means we absolutely need to include it in zope 2.9 then | 18:47 |
| benji | true, but an unfortunate flavor of dependency :) | 18:47 |
| philiKON | i was hoping we could flunk out of that | 18:47 |
| benji | why did you not want to? I would /think/ it would be easy. | 18:48 |
| philiKON | too many more top-level modules | 18:48 |
| philiKON | which means svn:externals is not possible on them | 18:48 |
| philiKON | only svn cp | 18:48 |
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| benji | I'll take your word for it :) | 18:51 |
| philiKON | svn:externals only works on directories (=packages) | 18:51 |
| philiKON | not on files (=modules) | 18:51 |
| JoaoJoao | so, anyone here has an example of how to use z3 catalog ? | 18:51 |
| philiKON | so that's why stitching in zope.testbrowser will result in copies of top-level modules like ClientForm and what not | 18:52 |
| benji | ok, got ya, I was thinking of the testbrowser dir, not the two top level modules | 18:54 |
| philiKON | oh wait, there are no top-level modules anymore... | 18:54 |
| philiKON | so, that's a good thing | 18:55 |
| benji | true, I forgot Gary moved them | 18:55 |
| philiKON | do you know where? | 18:56 |
| benji | into zope.testbrowser | 18:58 |
| benji | he then did some sys.modules hacks to make sure they show up as "top-level" modules | 18:58 |
| philiKON | cool | 18:59 |
| philiKON | i think in zope 2.10 we can get rid of top-level modules too | 18:59 |
| philiKON | everything can be moved to a package with an __init__.py | 18:59 |
| philiKON | except Zope.py | 18:59 |
| philiKON | Zope/ would conflict with zope/ on many filesystems/operating systems | 19:00 |
| benji | I think that was just a stop-gap until zpkg handles stand-alone modules properly | 19:00 |
| philiKON | but, good news is that Zope.py is going away in zope 2.10 iirc | 19:00 |
| philiKON | benji, yeah, working on stand-alone modules | 19:00 |
| philiKON | i wouldn't call it "properly" though ;) | 19:01 |
| benji | :) | 19:01 |
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| JoaoJoao | is there a list of sites running zope3? (to show my boss) | 19:23 |
| philiKON | launchpad.net | 19:24 |
| philiKON | worldcookery.com | 19:24 |
| philiKON | those are of the top of my head ;) | 19:24 |
| JoaoJoao | philiKON: I'm considering different web frameworks right now, mainly Zope3 and RubyOnRails | 19:29 |
| srichter | there are also several intranets | 19:30 |
| philiKON | great. use zope 3 :) | 19:30 |
| philiKON | i gotta go ;) | 19:30 |
| philiKON | JoaoJoao, yeah. many z3 apps out there aren't available onlline | 19:30 |
| philiKON | like SIP | 19:30 |
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| srichter | JoaoJoao: http://www.ch.amadeus.com/ | 19:32 |
| JoaoJoao | philiKON: Fortunately we have recipes like the good one made by benji | 19:32 |
| jenner | JoaoJoao: If RubyOnRails is similar to TurboGears then I would rather go with zope3... | 19:32 |
| srichter | this is probably one of the largest Zope 3 sites in terms of Zope 3 functionality | 19:33 |
| jenner | srichter: https://launchpad.net/ looks like z3 | 19:33 |
| philiKON | amadeus.com as in the travelling/air traffic amadeus? | 19:33 |
| JoaoJoao | jenner: The idea is similar, but RoR seems to be much more complete and mature | 19:34 |
| jenner | JoaoJoao: I checked out TurboGEars this weekend and was quite disappointed, all it does is glueing some libs together and adding some convenience tools to create a web app skeleton | 19:35 |
| JoaoJoao | What really makes RoR simpler is the code generation stuff | 19:35 |
| jenner | JoaoJoao: I even managed to create some sort of a TurboGears clone: sqlobject + simpleTAL + mod_python and ZConfig | 19:36 |
| JoaoJoao | Many people are put off by ZCML | 19:37 |
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| jenner | JoaoJoao: really? why? its simpler then XML and more readable then INI style configs | 19:38 |
| JoaoJoao | jenner: I agree that ZCML is simpler, I guess Z3 only needs a sample skeleton configure.zcml with the most basic funcionality | 19:39 |
| benji | JoaoJoao, if you're interested in getting the "flavor" of Zope 3, you can read my "Quick Start" guide (http://benjiyork.com/quick_start) | 19:42 |
| jenner | JoaoJoao: yeah, that's true... basically all you need to get an instance running is a port... so maybe s.th. like a base-setup.zcml with some crucial stuff like port numbers and such would be enough (it would just <include advanced-configure.zcml /> | 19:42 |
| JoaoJoao | benji: I used your quick start to get started with Zope3, it's pretty nice ;) | 19:42 |
| jenner | benji: you need a 20 minutes video to make zope3 popular :) | 19:43 |
| * jenner runs | 19:43 | |
| JoaoJoao | lol | 19:43 |
| benji | jenner, I plan on making one :) I want to rework the quick start to be about building a blog and then do a movie about it | 19:43 |
| jenner | benji: don't forget to mention AJAX somewhere | 19:44 |
| benji | one thing I want to educate people on though, is that Z3 isn't for everybody, some things (mostly simple things) are best done with other tools | 19:44 |
| benji | yep, jenner there are some interesting things about to happen with Zope and AJAX (in the next 6-8 months) | 19:44 |
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| jenner | benji: real AJAX? like XML _and_ XSLT? | 19:45 |
| jenner | natea: !!! | 19:45 |
| JoaoJoao | BTW, is there any add-water-and-mix AJAX stuff to use with Z3 right now? | 19:46 |
| benji | jenner, I would disagree with you about the definition of "real" AJAX :) | 19:48 |
| jenner | JoaoJoao: I'm coding a webmailer for a customer right now (using java though), I'm using sarissa for AJAX - each view is defined through a data (XML) and a controller (XSLT) method... as soon as you get used to XSLT it's really a piece of cake, sarissa handles most of the annoying browser issues | 19:49 |
| mgedmin | the javascriptish navigation tree in the ZMI is AJAX, isn't it? | 19:49 |
| jenner | benji: most of ajax libraries use only AJ and leave the X out :) | 19:51 |
| JoaoJoao | many use AJAJ | 19:51 |
| JoaoJoao | JSON-RPC :) | 19:51 |
| natea | jenner, how are you? | 19:52 |
| jenner | natea: stressed as usual :) what about you? | 19:53 |
| natea | yeah, also very busy | 19:53 |
| natea | there is a guy on the ataudio mailing list who is asking to get in contact with "the guy who made the flash popup" | 19:54 |
| natea | or rather, implemented the Flash popup within ATAudio | 19:54 |
| natea | apparently there is some kind of javascript error which prevents the popup from working in some browsers | 19:54 |
| natea | works fine for me in safari and firefox for osx | 19:55 |
| jenner | natea: huh... the popup is merely a window.open() | 19:56 |
| jenner | natea: there's nothing special about it | 19:56 |
| natea | opening up the javascript console in firefox shows this: | 19:57 |
| natea | > GM_registerMenuCommand is not defined | 19:57 |
| natea | > Source file: http://127.0.0.1:10080/bosjazz/recordsing/my-cd/ | 19:57 |
| natea | > audiocd_popup_play Line 527 | 19:57 |
| jenner | GM_registerMenuCommand looks like some JS coming from the Flash object (if that's possible) | 19:58 |
| natea | jenner, can i give him your email address? | 19:58 |
| jenner | yeah | 19:58 |
| natea | remind me what it is again? | 19:58 |
| jenner | igor at rulim.de | 19:58 |
| natea | k | 19:58 |
| natea | another strange thing that he is experiencing is album cover art appearing for other albums, | 20:00 |
| natea | not even ones that he has added to his site | 20:00 |
| natea | jenner, email sent | 20:00 |
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| jenner | yep | 20:04 |
| natea | jenner, can you join the #plone4artists IRC channel? | 20:04 |
| jenner | yeah, ataudio is a bit offtopic here :) | 20:04 |
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| VladDrac | how outdated is ch. 19 in philikons book? | 20:14 |
| VladDrac | wrt authentication and usermanagement | 20:14 |
| * VladDrac needs to authenticate agains SQL using cookies/sessions | 20:14 | |
| VladDrac | I need some examples :) | 20:14 |
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| JoaoJoao | VladDrac: Maybe SQLPrincipalSource does what you wanty | 20:21 |
| VladDrac | joao maybe, where/what is it? | 20:22 |
| JoaoJoao | it does authentication against SQL | 20:23 |
| VladDrac | and where is it? :) | 20:25 |
| JoaoJoao | I don't remember right now, I know google knows where it is :P | 20:28 |
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| JoaoJoao | Yeeeeeahhh my SuperWaba app works again! (I know not Zope3-related but I'm so happy about it :)) | 20:29 |
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| VladDrac | google hits give me max redirection limit exceeded | 20:31 |
| VladDrac | it looks old, 2003 | 20:31 |
| VladDrac | the txt in pluggableauth isn't a great help either | 20:32 |
| * VladDrac sighs | 20:32 | |
| VladDrac | perhaps I'll just hack around it, do it the fast, non-zope3 way :) | 20:32 |
| JoaoJoao | VladDrac: Wait, I'll send you what I did | 20:33 |
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| JoaoJoao | VladDrac: May I /msg you? | 20:37 |
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| VladDrac | joao sure if it's not to much | 20:39 |
| VladDrac | else mail me - ivo at m3r.nl | 20:39 |
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