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| JoaoJoao | good evening fellow zopethree'ers | 01:00 |
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| benji | hi JoaoJoao | 01:03 |
| * JoaoJoao trying to figure out the catalog thing | 01:06 | |
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| romanofski | moin :) | 14:56 |
| * romanofski is a bit puzzled about about the intended approach to customize skins | 14:57 | |
| romanofski | customizing rotterdam seems to be the "old" way and boston the new, but I've the feeling, that I'm able to reuse code fragments from boston by using the viewlets and not the template | 14:58 |
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| Charlie_X | Hi, just trying to build Zope 3.1 and get the following error message ValueError: filename pattern '*-configure.zcml' doesn't match any files | 15:23 |
| philiKON | Charlie_X, what did you do? | 15:25 |
| Charlie_X | Ran make after ./configure | 15:25 |
| philiKON | and then? | 15:26 |
| Charlie_X | then just make | 15:32 |
| Charlie_X | package.py is raising the error | 15:35 |
| philiKON | which package is the ValueError being thrown for? | 15:36 |
| philiKON | or, better, just paste the whole traceback somewhere | 15:36 |
| philiKON | paste.plone.org | 15:36 |
| efge | or zope3.pastebin.com :) | 15:37 |
| Charlie_X | http://paste.plone.org/1005 | 15:37 |
| philiKON | efge, ah, cool :) | 15:37 |
| * Charlie_X wonders if Google has started indexing all this throwaway stuff. | 15:37 | |
| efge | philiKON: you can do anythingyouwant.pastebin.com actually :) | 15:39 |
| philiKON | Charlie_X, this is very strange. Zope 3.1.0 always worked for me and for everyone else | 15:39 |
| Charlie_X | Yes, well I am running it on ZETA | 15:39 |
| philiKON | what's zeta? | 15:40 |
| Charlie_X | So it's probably some kind of path issue. | 15:40 |
| Charlie_X | http://yellowtab.com | 15:40 |
| romanofski | the BeOS thingy philiKON :) | 15:40 |
| philiKON | ah, that stuff | 15:40 |
| Charlie_X | 2.8 builds | 15:40 |
| * philiKON used beos once | 15:41 | |
| philiKON | Charlie_X, looks like ZConfig file globbing doesn't work | 15:41 |
| * Charlie_X has used BeOS et al for years. | 15:41 | |
| philiKON | i used beos4 and beos5 | 15:41 |
| romanofski | was a great os though | 15:42 |
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| romanofski | unfortunately the support for it seem to become very little | 15:43 |
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| Charlie_X | It still is. Particularly now the Python support has improved. Python 2.4 + PostgreSQL is pretty good. | 15:43 |
| philiKON | i always missed multi-user support | 15:43 |
| Charlie_X | philiKON for a desktop OS? Anyway that's slated for the next release. | 15:44 |
| philiKON | yes, for a desktop os | 15:44 |
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| romanofski | does it supposed to be a multiuser system? thought no... but would be necessary nowadays I guess | 15:44 |
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| philiKON | at least separate administrative issues from daily life issues | 15:45 |
| Charlie_X | I don't find that to be a problem for my work. | 15:45 |
| philiKON | it's one for me when my parents use a computer | 15:45 |
| philiKON | i'm their admin :) | 15:45 |
| philiKON | i'm not letting them change anything | 15:46 |
| philiKON | also, of course, our family computers at home (we have 3) are all multiuser systems | 15:46 |
| philiKON | even though they're purely desktop computers | 15:46 |
| romanofski | does all of them have such an apple symbols? *G | 15:46 |
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| Charlie_X | I'll try expand_globs | 15:47 |
| philiKON | romanofski, yes :) | 15:47 |
| philiKON | romanofski, not all of them running OSX, though | 15:47 |
| philiKON | i'm also running debian gnu/linux | 15:47 |
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| romanofski | heh - it's the evil apple inc. who didn't bought BeOS!!! *G | 15:47 |
| philiKON | LOL | 15:48 |
| philiKON | well, it was too expensive | 15:48 |
| philiKON | and NeXT rules | 15:48 |
| philiKON | ;) | 15:48 |
| romanofski | hehe | 15:48 |
| romanofski | I just remember the stories a friend told me... I also used BeOS a lot | 15:48 |
| Charlie_X | NeXT is great | 15:49 |
| Charlie_X | Anyway. Let's see if I can fix this globbing issue and build Zope 3 on ZETA | 15:49 |
| philiKON | would be cool | 15:49 |
| philiKON | make sure to feed the patch upstream | 15:50 |
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| philiKON | guys, i need some debugging advice | 15:58 |
| philiKON | so i'm trying to build a Zope 2 distribution that was built using zpkg | 15:59 |
| philiKON | and i'm executing python install.py build | 15:59 |
| tiredbones | benji, I was going over your starter guide again, to pick up on some finder point I missed the first time, and before I move on to philikon's book. Why do I see "CHEWWY World" instead of "Hello World"?Second, where is the file edit.html? | 16:00 |
| philiKON | so, build has several subcommands, such as build_py, ..., and build_scripts | 16:00 |
| philiKON | build_scripts is the last one actually | 16:01 |
| philiKON | after it or during it i get: | 16:01 |
| philiKON | error: Is a directory | 16:01 |
| philiKON | as if some program is opening a UNIX file stream but the filename points to a directory | 16:02 |
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| benji | tiredbones, for the first question, you probably changed the value of the "greeting" field to "CHEWWY" | 16:06 |
| benji | tiredbones, for the second, there is no file "edit.html", but that is the name used to access the EditView of HelloWorld objects (and the HTML comes from edit.pt) | 16:07 |
| tiredbones | benji, On the second quetion, you confirmed what I thought. | 16:08 |
| tiredbones | benji, As to the first, I tried many values and always get CHEWWY. | 16:09 |
| benji | tiredbones, it sounds like your class doesn't inherit from persistent.Persistent | 16:10 |
| Charlie_X | philiKON can you give me a sample call for expand_globs? | 16:12 |
| philiKON | Charlie_X, uh... | 16:13 |
| philiKON | what's expand_globs? a standard python function? | 16:13 |
| benji | nope | 16:13 |
| Charlie_X | No, how I can check expand_globs on my machine, ie. expand_globs(dir, reldir, list). I think pkginfo is returning wrong values. | 16:14 |
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| philiKON | benji, any idea how to debug my problem? | 16:23 |
| benji | um, philiKON, I don't know what your problem is :) hold on, let me read the IRC log | 16:24 |
| philiKON | ah, sorry, you probably came in too late | 16:24 |
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| benji | ok, philiKON, I read the log but I have no idea what you're talking about :) | 16:27 |
| benji | I have a short meeting now, I'll be back in a couple of minutes | 16:28 |
| philiKON | benji, no worries | 16:31 |
| philiKON | i think i know the reason | 16:31 |
| Charlie_X | philiKON it looks like it is really only sticking on "*-configure.zcml" The folder in question has a "configure.zcml" file | 16:37 |
| philiKON | what is the folder in question? | 16:38 |
| Charlie_X | Dependencies/zope.app.catalog-Zope-3.1.0/zope.app.catalog | 16:38 |
| Charlie_X | If I rename the file to -configure.zcml the script progresses further until the next file | 16:38 |
| philiKON | nonono | 16:39 |
| Charlie_X | mm, looks like the config loader is making a mistake | 16:39 |
| philiKON | the filename is supposed to be configure.zcml | 16:39 |
| Charlie_X | Yes, I understand but the globbing is failing because the pattern is wrong | 16:39 |
| philiKON | but there's also supposed to be a zope.app.catalog-configure.zcml | 16:39 |
| philiKON | the pattern is correct | 16:39 |
| philiKON | it's about zcml slugs | 16:40 |
| philiKON | they are named some.package-configure.zcml, some.package-meta.zcml, etc. | 16:40 |
| Charlie_X | ah, yes, that's there as well | 16:41 |
| philiKON | that's what the pattern should match | 16:41 |
| philiKON | and it does on every other OS | 16:41 |
| Charlie_X | I'll pass it on to the developer | 16:42 |
| philiKON | file a collector issue | 16:42 |
| philiKON | note that this will be very hard for the developer (i guess we're talking about zconfig's developer, fred drake) to debug | 16:43 |
| philiKON | as he most definitely doesn't have ZETA ;) | 16:43 |
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| Charlie_X | philiKON the files actually end in .zcm | 16:57 |
| Charlie_X | glob.glob1 is pure python so is OS independent | 16:58 |
| philiKON | Charlie_X, if the files end in .zcm, not .zcml, then that seems to be a bug in the untar or soemthing | 16:59 |
| philiKON | they should come out as .zcml | 16:59 |
| tiredbones | benji, I gave some thought to your last statement, that being I wasn't inheriting from persistence, but if this so, I shouldn't see the correct value for "subject", which I do. Anyway, I'll move on and try so solve it later when I have a better understanding of what's going on. | 17:00 |
| Charlie_X | philiKON possibly. I'll check the file on another system | 17:02 |
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| andres | Does anybody know, who maintains the zope3 postgres adapter? | 17:15 |
| Charlie_X | philiKON Winzip also has problems unpacking the archive | 17:16 |
| philiKON | meaning? | 17:16 |
| Charlie_X | It generated a .zcml00664 file! | 17:17 |
| philiKON | ouch | 17:17 |
| philiKON | that's weird | 17:17 |
| Charlie_X | Just testing it on my server | 17:17 |
| philiKON | it worked fine for me on linux and osx | 17:17 |
| Charlie_X | Unpacks fine on my server. I suspect that the path lengths might be a problem | 17:18 |
| philiKON | possibly | 17:18 |
| philiKON | please file a bug | 17:19 |
| philiKON | meaning, a collector issue | 17:19 |
| philiKON | include as much info as you have | 17:19 |
| Charlie_X | :-) | 17:19 |
| philiKON | e.g. winzip version, etc. | 17:19 |
| philiKON | full traceback on zeta | 17:19 |
| philiKON | etc. etc. | 17:19 |
| Charlie_X | BTW have started working with Trac. Pity it isn't available as a Zope product | 17:19 |
| philiKON | other zope packages resemble similar functionality | 17:20 |
| philiKON | there are several bug collectors | 17:20 |
| Charlie_X | Yes, I know | 17:20 |
| philiKON | there's zwiki, a very good wiki impl | 17:20 |
| philiKON | and there's also an SVN viewer system | 17:21 |
| philiKON | both bug collectors and svn viewers are probably best set up on top of plone | 17:21 |
| * Charlie_X doesn't like Plone | 17:21 | |
| philiKON | not because they have to but because they were written for plone | 17:21 |
| Charlie_X | Trac would work quite well with Zope 3 I think | 17:22 |
| philiKON | if you say so :) | 17:22 |
| Charlie_X | My technical understanding isn't brilliant but they have a component model and template driven presentation. | 17:23 |
| Charlie_X | Unfortunately the default data and security models are frightening | 17:23 |
| philiKON | maybe they can be talked into at least reusing some zope stuff, like zope.comonent and zope.pagetemplate | 17:24 |
| philiKON | who knows... | 17:24 |
| philiKON | if you do it be my guest | 17:25 |
| philiKON | i'm need to be going to be dnow | 17:25 |
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| VladDrac | anyone know why zope3 cant adapt zope.publisher.browser.BrowserRequest to ISession in an authenticationadapter? | 17:34 |
| VladDrac | (but can in a browser viewclass) | 17:34 |
| VladDrac | (Pdb) ISession(self.request) | 17:36 |
| VladDrac | *** TypeError: ('Could not adapt', <zope.publisher.browser.BrowserRequest instance URL=http://localhost:8080>, <InterfaceClass zope.app.session.interfaces.IClientId>) | 17:36 |
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| VladDrac | again a great example of how zope3 manages to make something trivial impossible | 17:46 |
| VladDrac | okay | 17:53 |
| VladDrac | time to implement my own sessions then | 17:53 |
| VladDrac | blah | 17:55 |
| romanofski | VladDrac: I've the same feeling with the skin management | 17:56 |
| VladDrac | I'm still wondering if it's me | 17:58 |
| VladDrac | if I'm stupid and the rest of this channel is brilliant | 17:58 |
| VladDrac | perhaps that's just it :) | 17:58 |
| VladDrac | (though most people tend to think I'm smart :) | 17:58 |
| VladDrac | perhaps I', just not german enough :) | 17:58 |
| romanofski | heh | 17:59 |
| VladDrac | trying to do things the "correct", zope3 way (writing interfaces, adapters, components, zcml) does not work for me | 17:59 |
| VladDrac | takes too much time or just doesn't work - I get stuck really quickly | 18:00 |
| romanofski | yeah.. well, the problem I have currently is if my way is the correct or deprecated way to customize a skin | 18:00 |
| * Charlie_X can't comment yet | 18:00 | |
| romanofski | we should consider to open a club of zope3-people-in-stuck or something like that *G | 18:01 |
| Charlie_X | I would expect any high level content stuff to be quite difficult to migrate. | 18:02 |
| Charlie_X | On the other hand I hope it's easy to do things with products like Formulator in PythonScripts which is currently very difficult because of Zope 2's security restrictions. | 18:03 |
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| romanofski | got to go - cheers | 18:10 |
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| Charlie_X | me too | 18:13 |
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| Theuni | anybody online who knows about the twisted integration in zope3? | 18:33 |
| Theuni | We are thinking about using twisted reactor calls to spawn of asynchronous calls to other network services. Is that something that we should have classified as "obviously stupid" or is that an intended side-effect of the twisted integration? | 18:43 |
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| JoaoJoao | good afternoon | 19:19 |
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| j1m | srichter, ayt? | 21:23 |
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