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| srichter | J1m: at which point are the container constraints checked? | 01:36 | 
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| andres | srichter, is the patch ok? | 16:59 | 
| srichter | I have not looked at it in detail | 17:02 | 
| elro | how do I access the api browser? | 17:03 | 
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| MacYET | ++apidoc++ | 17:04 | 
| elro | thanks | 17:04 | 
| clueck | Hi, are there guys from the "Ruhrgebiet" (germany) around? If yes, which dzug do you join? | 17:07 | 
| romanofski | clueck: you probably want to ask at #zope.de | 17:10 | 
| clueck | aah, i'll try that, thanks | 17:11 | 
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| efge | J1m: do you know if classImplements may have gotten faster between zope 3.0 and zope 3.2 | 19:46 | 
| efge | because in zope 3.0 (2.8 with Five) I'm seeing .2s per call here... | 19:47 | 
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| J1m | efge, I can imagine it taking .2s per call on an apple II with 16K of memory. :) | 20:06 | 
| efge | J1m: some even take .6 s | 20:06 | 
| efge | see: http://five.pastebin.com/454261 | 20:06 | 
| * J1m tries it in zope 3.0 .... | 20:06 | |
| efge | time seems to go up for classes deep in the hierarchy | 20:15 | 
| efge | or maybe classes used a lot as bases? | 20:15 | 
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| efge | J1m: actually the file is question is five's interfaces.zcml | 20:28 | 
| efge | the weird thing is: | 20:28 | 
| efge | the first time it's executed, it takes .26s and then if I do it a second time in the same python it takes ~5.5s | 20:29 | 
| efge | I'll try to isolate a testcase to check under Zope 3.2 | 20:29 | 
| J1m | I'm measuring about .001 seconds | 20:32 | 
| efge | that's what I'd like :) I'll dig further | 20:32 | 
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| J1m | efge, I just sent you a test script and results. | 20:40 | 
| efge | ok thanks | 20:40 | 
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| efge | J1m: I have the same kind of numbers | 20:46 | 
| efge | I'll try to extract the essence of the problem as a script (but not tonight :)) | 20:47 | 
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| J1m | same kind of numbers as what? | 20:48 | 
| J1m | As mine? | 20:48 | 
| J1m | I don't see a problem with my numbers. | 20:49 | 
| efge | as yours yes | 20:53 | 
| efge | so the pb is in the rest of the big framework of five classes etc, which I have to isolate | 20:53 | 
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| J1m | I wonder how I can tell that I'm using twisted. | 21:32 | 
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| J1m | srichter, how can I tell that I'm using twisted? | 21:33 | 
| J1m | zeo works fine for me. :) | 21:34 | 
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| J1m | zeo is working so well that I don't understand how it's working so well. | 21:45 | 
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| srichter | LOL!! | 22:07 | 
| srichter | J1m: if you use an SVN checkout, you use twisted | 22:08 | 
| srichter | if you create a new instance in the 3.2 branch, you use twisted | 22:08 | 
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| srichter | besically, the startup script refers to zope.app.twisted instead of zope.app.server | 22:08 | 
| J1m | k | 22:09 | 
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