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| J1m | srichter, so, zope.app.server.mkzopeinstance creates twisted-based server configs. | 00:55 | 
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| MJ | benji: (3 hours late) thanks | 01:47 | 
| MJ | but I do need something more philosophical | 01:47 | 
| philiKON | MJ, tried any of the Appetizers? | 01:48 | 
| philiKON | http://worldcookery.com/Appetizers | 01:48 | 
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| eins | hi | 08:27 | 
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| romanofski | moin | 09:53 | 
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| philiKON | hey J1m | 13:35 | 
| J1m | hey | 13:35 | 
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| sashav | are the zope.app.component.hooks.setSite/getSite global for a zope instance or can I have several instances of my site and get the right site with getSite from subobjects in a site? | 15:37 | 
| philiKON | they're global for a certain request | 15:38 | 
| philiKON | so, within a request there's only one site, no matter where in the object space you are | 15:38 | 
| philiKON | that one site is (by default behaviour) the one closest to the object *traversed* | 15:39 | 
| philiKON | so, e.g. your URL is http://somefolder/site/subsite/some_obj | 15:39 | 
| philiKON | getSite() will be subsite | 15:40 | 
| philiKON | even if you do something with somefolder/site/foobar_object within that request, getSite() is still subsite | 15:41 | 
| philiKON | and component lookups will start there | 15:41 | 
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| andres | I fear i have something very big in front of my head: What is the easiest way to refer to a macro defined in the same document? | 17:11 | 
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| SteveA | /template/macros/name | 17:19 | 
| SteveA | without the leading / | 17:19 | 
| SteveA | from a page template | 17:19 | 
| andres | I only get a key error. | 17:22 | 
| andres | That the confusing thing. | 17:23 | 
| andres | Hm. As long as i define the macro inside a use-macro, it doesnt work... | 17:26 | 
| SteveA | inside a use-macro, i expect the markup is discarded | 17:26 | 
| SteveA | after all, you're using a macro there | 17:27 | 
| SteveA | or do i mean fill-slot | 17:27 | 
| SteveA | ? | 17:27 | 
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| andres | SteveA, i have a sitewide macro/template which i include as first thing so that all page look the same, which is, i think, quite common. At one page using the site wide template i needed another macro, which i defined inside the other use-macro. Which doesnt seem to work. | 17:36 | 
| SteveA | you have a template, a page of your site | 17:38 | 
| SteveA | this template uses the sitewide macros | 17:38 | 
| andres | yes. | 17:38 | 
| SteveA | in the template, you define a macro for that template | 17:38 | 
| SteveA | but, you define the macro within a use-macro element in that template | 17:38 | 
| SteveA | but not inside a fill-slot | 17:38 | 
| SteveA | is that the situation? | 17:39 | 
| andres | yes | 17:39 | 
| SteveA | if so, the problem is this: all macros get processed before the content of the template is interpreted | 17:39 | 
| SteveA | so, your new macro, defined in the template that is a page of your site, is removed right away, before it can be interpreted | 17:40 | 
| SteveA | because all the text of your template that is inside a use-macro element, except that also inside a fill-slot, is removed | 17:40 | 
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| andres | SteveA, thanks. | 17:42 | 
| andres | I will move it out of the use-macro or inside a fill-slot. | 17:43 | 
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| SteveA | bug 3516 | 17:43 | 
| SteveA | wrong channel | 17:44 | 
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| adamSummers | Hi, Is it possible to have methods in views which take parameters? If so, how would you call them from the page template? | 19:04 | 
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| romanofski | adamSummers: something like myMethod?paremeter=foo | 19:07 | 
| romanofski | ? | 19:07 | 
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| benji | adamSummers, you can do python:view.foo(bar) | 19:09 | 
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| srichter | adamSummers: benji is right, but this is a slippery slope | 19:10 | 
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| srichter | you really should do all of your computations in the view class | 19:10 | 
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| benji | I didn't say it was good :) | 19:10 | 
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| srichter | sashav: I am baout to ban you ;-) | 19:11 | 
| adamSummers | yeah :) I understand - the computations are in the view class, but I want to have generic methods which take which the attribute of in interface to compute on | 19:12 | 
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| srichter | generic methods in views are bad | 19:12 | 
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| srichter | just compute everything for the attributes right away | 19:12 | 
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| adamSummers | this is for things like sum() where I have containers which contain numeric data -- I don't want to be writing sum functions all over the place which do the same | 19:14 | 
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| benji | adamSummers, judicious use of properties can also help | 19:14 | 
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| adamSummers | how so? | 19:14 | 
| benji | sashav, is annoying | 19:14 | 
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| srichter | benji: I am trying to ban him | 19:15 | 
| benji | adamSummers, in some cases you can do your calculations in a property, but it'll look like simple attribute access in your ZPT | 19:15 | 
| benji | srichter, his client must be misconfigured | 19:16 | 
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| srichter | benji: worst is, I cannot effectively ban him | 19:16 | 
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| ignas | srichter, is there a way to pass parameters to a viewlet manager ? | 19:17 | 
| ignas | let's say - an "event" object being rendered ... | 19:17 | 
| srichter | ignas: yes, see the zope.contentprovider documentation | 19:17 | 
| srichter | (viewlet managers are just content providers) | 19:18 | 
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| ignas | how does one do directlyProvides in zcml ? | 19:54 | 
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| philiKON | one doesn't | 19:56 | 
| ignas | philiKON, the example in zope.contentprovider does: | 19:59 | 
| ignas | >>> zope.interface.directlyProvides(IMessageText, | 19:59 | 
| ignas | ... interfaces.ITALNamespaceData) | 19:59 | 
| philiKON | ah, with interfaces there's a special trick | 19:59 | 
| philiKON | <interface interface="..." type="..." /> | 19:59 | 
| ignas | i did that, so probably my problems are in some other place now :) | 20:00 | 
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| ignas | thanks | 20:00 | 
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| sashav | hehe yes :) had two irc clients killing eachother | 21:45 | 
| sashav | who won? :) | 21:45 | 
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| sashav | hehe :) | 21:46 | 
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