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bradallen | I'm stuck trying to get the use-macro part of a browser:resource ZPT | 00:11 |
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bradallen | I'm expecting it to look something like: metal:use-macro='/@@/cram_layout_1/macros/cramLayout1' | 00:12 |
bradallen | where cram_layout_1 is also registered as a browser:resource | 00:13 |
bradallen | I have tried to guess numerous times what I should use in use-macro but have so far failed | 00:14 |
jenner | bradallen: is cram_layout_1 a skin? | 00:15 |
bradallen | no, it's a ZPT macro | 00:15 |
bradallen | as in metal:define-macro='cramLayout1' | 00:15 |
bradallen | I had it working TTW | 00:16 |
jenner | I'm not sure you can use a browser:resource in macros | 00:16 |
jenner | try browser:page | 00:16 |
bradallen | but wanted to move to the filesystem | 00:16 |
bradallen | ok, I'll try browser:page | 00:16 |
bradallen | thanks | 00:16 |
jenner | <browser:page for="foo.interfaces.IMyContentType" name="my_macros" permission="zope.Public" template="my_macros.pt" /> and use it like metal:use-macro="context/@@my_macros/macro_name" (note that there's no /macros/ in between) | 00:18 |
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bradallen | jenner: It looks like browser:page requires a "for" value in the form of an interface. I was trying to use browser:resource because it didn't seem to require any Python classes or interfaces...I wanted to see if I could build a very simple Z3 site using ZPT only... I guess I will need to create an interfaces.py module for my package? or can I use an existing interface from Zope? | 00:26 |
jenner | for="*" | 00:26 |
bradallen | I will try it. | 00:26 |
bradallen | jenner: I'm still getting the same error as before: PTRuntimeError: ['Compilation failed', "zope.tal.taldefs.TALError: Path element may not be empty in u'/@@cram_layout_1/cramLayout1' in expression u'/@@cram_layout_1/cramLayout1', at line 1, column 1"] | 00:28 |
jenner | bradallen: your ZPT has errors | 00:28 |
bradallen | Hm...I was working fine TTW | 00:28 |
bradallen | I will check. | 00:28 |
jenner | replace /@@cram_layout_1/cramLayout1 with context/@@cram_layout_1/cramLayout1 | 00:29 |
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bradallen | That gives me a different error: File "/usr/share/zope-3.1.0-py2.4/lib/python/zope/app/traversing/namespace.py", line 363, in traverse | 00:30 |
bradallen | raise TraversalError(self.context, name) | 00:30 |
bradallen | TraversalError: (None, 'cram_layout_1') | 00:30 |
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bradallen | Maybe I should also change my ZPT page to a page rather than a browser:resource | 00:31 |
jenner | ... | 00:31 |
TwistedBen | Is there any news about Zope3 IDEs? | 00:31 |
TwistedBen | Is there anything useful out there? | 00:31 |
jenner | what's wrong with vim? :) | 00:31 |
bradallen | browser:resource doesn't get access to context according to Phillikon book | 00:31 |
jenner | bradallen: as I already said, register the ZPT as browser:page | 00:32 |
bradallen | I did that for the Macro, not the page | 00:32 |
TwistedBen | jenner: Well if it was not for the many files involved for even the simplest projects that need matching class names, and other.. why not emacs yes | 00:32 |
TwistedBen | jenner: vim never :) | 00:32 |
jenner | TwistedBen: eclipse + pydev? | 00:32 |
TwistedBen | will check out eclipse+pydev. I read about the possibility to make it a nice IDE for Zope3 but I did not know that it actually happened | 00:33 |
jenner | TwistedBen: it's a general purpose solution for bigger python projects... and eclipse has nice XML editing capabilities which makes it even more useful for z3's zcml stuff | 00:34 |
TwistedBen | jenner it does sound like a step forward from what I am using now.. | 00:35 |
TwistedBen | jenner: But I was dreaming about an interface ala zope2 to build simple content objects and roles and ... :) | 00:35 |
jenner | TwistedBen: Oh, by IDE you mean s.th. like ZClasses? | 00:36 |
TwistedBen | jenner: Well I guess it was too simple to be called a IDE but it did make life easier for simple content objects | 00:37 |
jenner | I wish ZClasses would have never been invented :) | 00:38 |
TwistedBen | jenner: You probably did not like the concept but I do not see why there can not be an as simple UI for building simple content objects in Zope3 | 00:38 |
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TwistedBen | Actually was the magical upgrade of all ZClass instances in terms of new/removed field a nice feature too? | 00:40 |
jenner | TwistedBen: The problem was not the concept, but the fact that ZClasses broke each time I upgraded zope | 00:40 |
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TwistedBen | Oh. Well I did not have any upgrade experience with my developments ;) | 00:40 |
TwistedBen | I guess my colleagues will suffer from my devs now that I left if I can read the tone of your line correctly :) | 00:41 |
jenner | TwistedBen: yep :) | 00:41 |
bradallen | jenner: sorry to be such a pest. I still can't get my ZPT page to load. I changed it from a brower;resource to a browser:page, but don't know how to construct a URL to load that ZPT. With browser:resource, it was documented to be at @@/name. That doesn't seem to work for a browser:page. | 00:43 |
jenner | bradallen: context/@@<the value of 'name' attribute you used in browser:page>/<macro name> | 00:44 |
bradallen | jenner: But this isn't a macro. This is the page that USES the macro. I'm trying to construct from base URL; I'm not sure context makes sense here, as in http://www.dfwairplan.org/context/@@dfw_air_plan_home | 00:47 |
bradallen | (which doesn't work) | 00:47 |
bradallen | jenner: wait...it worked using the url http://www.dfwairplan.org/@@dfw_air_plan_home | 00:48 |
bradallen | yay!! | 00:48 |
jenner | bradallen: err, I wasn't aware that you try to serve ZPTs with _content_ from filesystem... browser:page is actually a "view", it should represent an abstract object to the client (browser)... I guess using ZPTs as ressources makes more sense then registering them as browser:page, though I have no idea how you would access them... probably by adding a skin layer and overriding the default skin in site.zcml | 00:54 |
bradallen | jenner: well, browser:page does explicitly support templates as an alternative to using Python classes. I think it makes sense, and it does provide access to the context whereas browser:resource does not. I need that access to context to obtain user-entered content stored in the ZMI/ZODB | 00:57 |
bradallen | Would a CSS file be a more appropriate example of what you'd use a browser:resource for? | 01:04 |
bradallen | Most of the time a CSS file wouldn't need access to the context | 01:05 |
bradallen | it certainly wouldn't use the keyword context...it would use something like url("../whatever.jpg") | 01:06 |
TwistedBen | I created an interface called IProduct that borrows a lot from the example IMessage from the Zope3 dev guide | 01:07 |
jenner | yes, static files like images, css, javascript etc is basically a good example for browser:resource | 01:07 |
TwistedBen | I have created another interface called ICourse that is a python subclass of the IProduct class | 01:07 |
TwistedBen | I have made an implementation of both and Product (IProduct implementation) can be added without any problems | 01:08 |
TwistedBen | Adding Course (ICourse impl) gives me a terrible ForbiddenAttribute error | 01:08 |
TwistedBen | I had a look at the zope3-security C stuff but it seems it could be a few things I can not relate too | 01:09 |
TwistedBen | I can not really compile on this machine and am therefore kind of stuck. I do not know how to investigate further | 01:10 |
TwistedBen | You guys have any idea what I should be looking at? | 01:11 |
TwistedBen | ok I got the issue.. was something dumb. Would not have happened if there was some simple IDE to do this type of stuff ;) | 01:13 |
jenner | ... or if you'd have read one of the z3 quick-starters :) | 01:14 |
TwistedBen | I just had a quick look at a quick starter.. Maybe I should have a full read. Thanks jenner | 01:15 |
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eins | morning | 08:07 |
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encolpe | Hi | 12:27 |
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andres | Is there a known problem with schema.Set fields? I have a form which works without problems as long as i use a zope.schema.List, but throws an componentLookupError with zope.schema.Set | 14:58 |
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philiKON | andres, well, that's probably because there's no widget for it... | 15:27 |
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andres | philiKON, hm, there is one, isnt it? It just doesnt seem to be properly registered. After i added a view for ISet/IBaseVocabulary providing DisplayWidget it seems to work. | 15:32 |
philiKON | there you go | 15:33 |
andres | using the same view List uses. | 15:33 |
philiKON | ok | 15:33 |
andres | Is there a reason not to add that to zope trunk? | 15:41 |
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AJC | hmmm, from the Z3 trunk, i'm getting a strange ZCML error. | 17:28 |
AJC | zope.configuration.xmlconfig.ZopeXMLConfigurationError: File "C:\ZOPE_TEST2\etc\site.zcml", line 13.2-13.40 | 17:28 |
AJC | ZopeXMLConfigurationError: File "C:\ZOPE_TEST2\etc\securitypolicy.zcml", line 11.2 | 17:28 |
AJC | ConfigurationError: ('Unknown directive', u'http://namespaces.zope.org/zope', u'role') | 17:28 |
srichter | this is really stange | 17:29 |
srichter | several people have reported this one, though I cannot reproduce it | 17:30 |
AJC | i'm in windows | 17:30 |
srichter | can you send the full step by step instructions (starting with checking out Z3) on zope3-dev? | 17:30 |
srichter | I hope that Tim will have a chance to check it out. | 17:30 |
AJC | i pretty much only created a site with mkzopeinstance | 17:31 |
AJC | no matter what parameters i give, the problem still occurs | 17:31 |
srichter | mmhthat is really strange | 17:33 |
srichter | for some reason the meta directives are not loaded correctly | 17:33 |
AJC | so it seems, that's as far as I got with my limited knowledge of Z3. | 17:34 |
srichter | could you still document your steps please? | 17:35 |
srichter | this will give me something to go by. | 17:35 |
mkerrin | AJC: have you deleted the securiypolicy-meta.zcml file out of the package-includes directory in your instance. Has this can cause that error. | 17:37 |
AJC | i'll take a look. | 17:37 |
AJC | aha, package-includes is empty | 17:38 |
srichter | ok, you have to type "make" before mkzopeinstance | 17:38 |
AJC | just README.txt, i'm guessing that's the source of the bug... | 17:38 |
AJC | i did a "python setup.py install" | 17:38 |
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AJC | i've done this successfully before with earlier versions of Z3 though, what's changed? | 17:39 |
srichter | AJC: check out the Makefile to see the command you have to run | 17:39 |
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srichter | python setup.py build_ext -i install_data --install-dir . | 17:40 |
AJC | i see, so before the .zcml files were in that directory by default or something? | 17:41 |
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AJC | do you guys usually run with Z3 in site-packages or in another directory? | 17:43 |
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elbixio | hello everyone. is it possible to reference a browser:resource (image) in a rest file? i've tried "image: context/++resource++image.png", but didn't work. | 18:03 |
mgedmin | elbixio, you might try image: /@@/image.png | 18:05 |
mgedmin | unless you use sites | 18:05 |
mgedmin | and image.png is not a global resource | 18:06 |
mgedmin | I guess that was a bit confusing | 18:06 |
mgedmin | "image: /@@/image.png" should work | 18:06 |
elbixio | :O | 18:06 |
srichter | AJC: I run make to get Zope 3 SVN running; then I use python z3.py | 18:06 |
mgedmin | it might not work if image.png is a resource defined in a local site | 18:06 |
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mgedmin | it will work if image.png is a resource defined in zcml | 18:07 |
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elbixio | mgedmin, it worked!! thanks man | 18:11 |
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AJC | hmmm, has something changed with the support for the ++vh++ namespace recently? | 18:56 |
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mgedmin | AJC, why do you ask? | 18:58 |
AJC | i had virtual hosting working with twisted about 4 months ago, and i'm just trying the latest code with the exact same setup | 18:59 |
AJC | no luck this time... | 18:59 |
AJC | hmm, i'm guessing this has to do with integration of the twisted server | 19:01 |
mgedmin | knowing the implementation of ++vh++ I find that unlikely | 19:01 |
mgedmin | what are the symptoms? | 19:02 |
* mgedmin checks | 19:03 | |
mgedmin | ++vh++ seems to work for me, using the zope 3.2 branch | 19:04 |
AJC | in the default skin, rotterdam i think, only the urls within the breadcrumbs (Location: XXX) correctly reflect the changes in ++vh++ | 19:04 |
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AJC | http://my-site.org:8081/++vh++http:dev.my-site.org:81/++/ | 19:06 |
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mgedmin | AJC, do you type that in the browser's location bar, or do you use Apache rewrite rules? | 19:08 |
mgedmin | if you typed something with ++vh++ in the browser's address bar, then *relative links* in the HTML will not match your expectations | 19:09 |
AJC | i just typed that for testing... it's usually done in twistd | 19:10 |
AJC | hmmm | 19:10 |
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AJC | what's changed is Zope's handling of the default path for GET requests | 19:20 |
AJC | i.e. GET without a starting '/' | 19:20 |
AJC | i'm guessing my original proxy had a bug but ZServer handled it differently | 19:20 |
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roym | I need to know how to "intercept" a login event, so that I can redirect the user to a home folder - where would I be able to find documentation on this? | 19:37 |
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mgedmin | roym, I'd write a custom login form that logs the user in and then redirects | 19:42 |
mgedmin | basic HTTP auth is inconvenient anyway | 19:42 |
SteveA | what does a "login even" mean for Basic auth anyway? | 19:43 |
mgedmin | it means something from the user's (and browser's) point of view | 19:43 |
SteveA | you'd essentially need a session to remember that a particular user wasn't logged in, and now is logged in | 19:43 |
SteveA | assuming you don't want to redirect them on every request | 19:44 |
SteveA | which would be silly | 19:44 |
mgedmin | you could hack up a Unauthorized error handler | 19:44 |
SteveA | so, you could use a cookie for it | 19:44 |
mgedmin | to redirect to /login.html | 19:44 |
mgedmin | which raises a HTTP auth challenge | 19:44 |
mgedmin | for anonymous users | 19:44 |
SteveA | it needn't be a securely handled cookie | 19:44 |
mgedmin | and redirects to a person's home page | 19:44 |
mgedmin | for logged in users | 19:44 |
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efrerich | Problem "Unknown directive": During the distributing building zopeskel/package-includes is filled. | 20:00 |
efrerich | In a SVN checkout package-includes is empty. mkzopeinstance cannot fill this directory. | 20:00 |
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benji | efrerich, after doing a checkout package-includes is, indeed empty, running "make" fills it. | 20:10 |
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efrerich_ | benji: but there is no "make" for Windows | 22:02 |
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benji | efrerich_, sorry, I didn't see you mention Windows, in that case you need to run setup.py. See README.txt for instructions. | 22:22 |
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efrerich_ | benji: I saw that <AJC> wrote about an error (in irclogs at 17:28) | 22:30 |
efrerich_ | benji: if you want to run setup.py under Windows you needs the C-Compiler | 22:32 |
efrerich_ | benji: but it is not necessary to go through this process because the pyd- | 22:33 |
efrerich_ | files from tim-one | 22:34 |
efrerich_ | What we need under Windows is a bat-file which fills the package-includes | 22:35 |
efrerich_ | directory in the instance | 22:35 |
efrerich_ | the easy way is to copy this directory from a instance which is created | 22:38 |
efrerich_ | from the Windows-Zope installer to the directory of the instance which | 22:40 |
efrerich_ | is created with mkzopeinstance from the svn checkout | 22:41 |
benji | efrerich_, you can populate package-includes with this command: python setup.py install_data --install-dir . | 22:41 |
benji | (run from the root of your z3 checkout) | 22:41 |
benji | efrerich_, if you're getting started with Zope 3, perhaps my Quick Start Guide would help you: http://www.benjiyork.com/quick_start/ | 22:49 |
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efrerich_ | benyi: ah - I created many instances of many releases and so I don't | 23:06 |
efrerich_ | read your quick_start until now. Thank you. | 23:07 |
efrerich_ | benyi: And I told srichter sometimes ago that there is nothing in CHANGES.txt about the changes with package-includes. | 23:11 |
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benji | efrerich_, I'm not sure what "changes with package-includes" you're referring to, I believe it works the same way now as it did in 3.1. | 23:19 |
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efrerich_ | benyi: I'll check my memory. In 3.1 we put the files manually into package-includes. | 23:22 |
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efrerich_ | Now we have the files in the packages. | 23:23 |
benji | you're exactly right, efrerich_, that should go into CHANGES.txt | 23:27 |
benji | BTW: you're misspelling my name :) | 23:27 |
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efrerich_ | benji: excuse me - I looked at my checkout. Now I assume the change was | 23:34 |
efrerich_ | between 3.0 and 3.1 | 23:35 |
benji | yep, it was | 23:35 |
benji | oops, sorry, it was between 3.1 and 3.2 | 23:35 |
benji | (my 3.1 branch checkout still has the zcml "slugs" checked into package-includes") | 23:36 |
efrerich_ | aha | 23:36 |
J1m | srichter, did you run tests before your recent checkins? | 23:58 |
srichter | they should pass after the last checkin | 23:58 |
srichter | I did not realize their dependencies till the end | 23:58 |
J1m | What is the last checkin? | 23:59 |
J1m | What #? | 23:59 |
srichter | 41121 | 23:59 |
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