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| okramar | does anyone have experience in setting custom skins with a subscriber to BeforeTraverseEvent? | 04:40 |
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| mleist | Hi there. when i'm starting my zope3-instance there are "zope.app.appsetup.IDatabaseOpenedEvent" and "zope.app.appsetup.IProcessStartingEvent" | 14:55 |
| mleist | I create(d) my Utility in bootStrapSubscriberDatabase triggered by IDatabaseOpenedEvent but | 14:55 |
| mleist | which way i have to access this utility in bootStrapSubscriberProcess triggered by IProcessStartingEvent? | 14:55 |
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| mleist | zapi.getUtility() gives an ComponentLookupError in bootStrapSubscriberProcess. Are Utilities "getable" in bootStrapSubscriberProcess? | 15:03 |
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| sidnei | query jinty | 15:08 |
| sidnei | ops | 15:08 |
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| mleist | Hmm: (Pdb) p list(zapi.getUtilitiesFor(..)) -> [] - I don't find any uility... | 15:19 |
| mleist | I have to count all starts from Zope3-instance (persistent) in ZODB. Where is a good place to do it? | 15:19 |
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| sidnei | c | 15:25 |
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| mgedmin | mleist, a IDatabaseOpenedEvent subscriber would be a good place, I think | 15:27 |
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| mleist | mgedmin, ok, that was my first try, but i don't find the utilities when i am in a IDatabaseOpenedEvent subscriber? | 15:45 |
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| mgedmin | that is strange | 15:56 |
| mgedmin | are those *local* utilities per chance? | 15:57 |
| philiKON | no, it's not | 15:57 |
| philiKON | IDatabaseOpenedEvent is fired pretty early isn't it? | 15:57 |
| philiKON | hmm, perhaps it is fired after the config is loaded | 15:57 |
| mgedmin | it is certainly fired *after* the zcml has been processed, including utility registrations | 15:57 |
| philiKON | k | 15:57 |
| philiKON | yeh, otherwise there'd be no subscribers to it ;) | 15:58 |
| mgedmin | could this be a permission issue? | 15:58 |
| mgedmin | does getUtilitiesFor check for access and only return utilities you can actually use? | 15:58 |
| Theuni | hmm | 16:08 |
| * Theuni wonders about the way of including the default formlib pageform macro into his own template | 16:08 | |
| Theuni | for some reason i guessed to do this: metal:use-macro="view/template:default" .... ah ... maybe ... wait a sec | 16:09 |
| Theuni | *woot | 16:10 |
| Theuni | of course it's view/template:default/macros/main | 16:10 |
| mleist | *local* utilities (configured in zcml, right?) are accessible in Subscriber: | 16:14 |
| mleist | (Pdb) from zope.app.error.interfaces import IErrorReportingUtility | 16:14 |
| mleist | (Pdb) myu1=zapi.getUtility(IErrorReportingUtility) | 16:14 |
| mleist | (Pdb) p myu1.getProperties() | 16:14 |
| mleist | {'ignored_exceptions': ('Unauthorized',), 'keep_entries': 20, 'copy_to_zlog': 0} | 16:14 |
| mleist | my utility was born in IDatabaseOpenedEvent by ensureUtility(...) but Subscriber | 16:14 |
| mleist | for IProcessStartingEvent is _after_ commit in IDatabaseOpenedEvent? | 16:14 |
| mleist | Is there any chance to get an utility not defined in ZCML in this way? | 16:14 |
| Theuni | Hm. what's the reason that zope.schema.Datetime isn't spelled with a capital 'T'ime? | 16:21 |
| philiKON | Theuni, fix it :) | 16:25 |
| Theuni | Sure. I first wanted to know whether it is intended to be that way, or accidental ... | 16:25 |
| * philiKON always spells it DateTime until he finds out that this doesn't work... so, a +1 to the renaming from me | 16:26 | |
| philiKON | (of course, with proper BBB) | 16:26 |
| Theuni | great | 16:31 |
| Theuni | except that i have to do that when i have time for that *grml | 16:31 |
| philiKON | hehe | 16:33 |
| mgedmin | mleist, you shouldn't depend on local utilities being available in a IDatabaseOpenedEvent subscriber | 16:33 |
| mgedmin | theoretically subscribers could be executed in any order | 16:34 |
| mgedmin | and when Zope initializes an empty database, it creates local utilities from other IDatabaseOpenedEvent subscribers | 16:34 |
| mgedmin | in practice, subscribers get called in registration order | 16:34 |
| mgedmin | so if you include your own package after zope.app's configure.zcml, it'll work | 16:34 |
| mgedmin | IProcessStartingEvent is posted before the database is opened | 16:35 |
| mgedmin | so I would guess that inside IProcessStartingEvent subscribers you can't access any local utilities | 16:35 |
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| mleist | mgedmin, when starting zope my "printf-debugging" says: | 16:41 |
| mleist | log_ik: <zope.app.appsetup.interfaces.DatabaseOpenedWithRoot object at 0xb6b5896c> | 16:41 |
| mleist | bootStrapSubscriberDatabase() <- my method | 16:41 |
| mleist | log_ik: <zope.app.appsetup.interfaces.DatabaseOpened object at 0xb704aa4c> | 16:41 |
| mleist | bootStrapSubscriberProcess() <- my method | 16:41 |
| mleist | log_ik: <zope.app.appsetup.interfaces.ProcessStarting object at 0xb7a5094c> | 16:41 |
| mleist | IProcessStartingEvent seems to be after IDatabaseOpenedEvent? | 16:43 |
| Theuni | Man. Sometimes you really have to work against the framework. | 16:49 |
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| wrobel | hm... how do I get the complete traversal machinery in a doctest? | 17:30 |
| wrobel | I can register all the necessary stuff with provideAdapter but I assume there might be an easier way :) | 17:32 |
| wrobel | ah :) resolved... | 17:39 |
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| ChrisW | anyone know how I can progamatically minimze the ZODB cache? | 20:23 |
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| SteveA | ChrisW: for a particular connection, call its methods that do that | 20:38 |
| SteveA | the cache is per connection, you see | 20:38 |
| SteveA | so you need to get the connections you're interested in | 20:38 |
| SteveA | and there are some methods on that | 20:38 |
| SteveA | obj._p_jar is the connection for persistent objects that are registered with that connection | 20:38 |
| ChrisW | yeah, I found them already | 20:40 |
| ChrisW | this is in a Stepper job anyway, so only one thread | 20:40 |
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| ChrisW | for some reason, I have to manually call obj._p_jar.db().cacheMinimize() every so often | 20:40 |
| ChrisW | otherwise I end up blowign all the ram in the machine :-( | 20:40 |
| ChrisW | I thought the cahce got sorted out at transaction boundaries | 20:41 |
| ChrisW | (ie: get_transaction().commit()) | 20:41 |
| ChrisW | but apparently, it doesn't... | 20:41 |
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