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| RockyBurt | srichter: still in egg ? | 00:13 |
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| srichter | RockyBurt: hi there | 00:44 |
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| srichter | RockyBurt: did you have a good trip back? | 00:44 |
| srichter | RockyBurt: I am actually sitting in Infare's office in Rotterdam | 00:44 |
| RockyBurt | oh | 00:59 |
| RockyBurt | i'm actually sitting in the montreal airport waiting for my flight to newfoundland | 01:00 |
| RockyBurt | basically got 2 hour wait here | 01:01 |
| RockyBurt | hm, $8 CAD for a full day of wifi at the montreal airport is not bad | 01:07 |
| jenner | heh | 01:11 |
| * RockyBurt heh's at jenner's heh | 01:12 | |
| jenner | I just talked to a guy from st.petersburg who's waiting for his flight in frankfurt... he complained about 8 euros per _hoer_ :) | 01:12 |
| jenner | hour even | 01:12 |
| RockyBurt | lol | 01:12 |
| RockyBurt | ouch! | 01:12 |
| RockyBurt | i was close enough to a hotspot in frankfurt to connect anyhow (i could see the sid but couldn't connect) | 01:13 |
| RockyBurt | err... *wasn't | 01:13 |
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| srichter | J1m: how is the refactoring going? | 15:48 |
| J1m | Haven't done much yet this weekend. | 15:49 |
| srichter | ok | 15:50 |
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| suse-joe | Hi! Is there an elegant way of getting to the Principal object of the logged-in user? I need that for changing the password. | 17:25 |
| suse-joe | ATM I use: | 17:25 |
| suse-joe | users = removeSecurityProxy(principals()['PrincipalFolder']) | 17:26 |
| suse-joe | principal = users[self.request.principal.id[5:]] | 17:26 |
| suse-joe | principal.password = data.password | 17:26 |
| suse-joe | The [5:] removes the prefix "Users". Both getting the right principal folder and getting the actual principal don't look nice. And everything breaks if either the folder name or the prefix change. | 17:27 |
| suse-joe | BTW: http://dev.zope.org/Zope3 is down. | 17:29 |
| suse-joe | Ah, it's back now. | 17:29 |
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| srichter | request.principal gives you the principal | 17:56 |
| srichter | if that principal uses some sort of "user" object to get its data, you could listen to a IPrincipalCreated event and add the user | 17:57 |
| srichter | we demonstrated how to do this with the homefolder | 17:57 |
| suse-joe | So I'd add the user to the principal and then get to the object like this: userObject = request.principal.userObject ? | 17:59 |
| suse-joe | srichter: homefolder? | 18:00 |
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| srichter | zope.app.homefolder | 18:14 |
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| suse-joe | srichter: I don't see IPrincipalCreated mentioned in homefolder. | 19:29 |
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| J1m | srichter, ayt? | 20:52 |
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| srichter | J1m: yeah | 23:24 |
| J1m | cab we get rid of zope.component.bbb? | 23:25 |
| J1m | I can't tell how old it is. | 23:25 |
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| srichter | J1m: sure, no that we agreed on the deprecation time | 23:25 |
| srichter | It was new in 3.1 | 23:26 |
| srichter | so based on the 2-release rule, it can go out | 23:26 |
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| J1m | k | 23:29 |
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| srichter | J1m: I was expecting this giving you a huge headache. :-) | 23:32 |
| J1m | It's not a huge headache. | 23:32 |
| srichter | are you getting the stuff done today? | 23:38 |
| srichter | (and btw, yipee, I can watch the Superbowl on the German public TV station!!!) | 23:39 |
| J1m | I'm working on it today. I won't finish today. | 23:39 |
| srichter | ok | 23:42 |
| srichter | btw, one of the Plone UI guys (not a programmer) told me and Roger that Zope 3 would be much more attractive if we had XSLT pipelines | 23:42 |
| srichter | Roger and him worked out immediately some design ideas :-) | 23:42 |
| srichter | since I know nothing about the topic, I want to read up on it. | 23:43 |
| jenner | srichter: what's an XSLT _pipeline_? | 23:43 |
| srichter | J1m: any good source for existing technologies? | 23:43 |
| J1m | It all depends on what you want to do. | 23:43 |
| srichter | jenner: Basically you define a pipe of XSLT transformations: original -> T1 -> T2 ... -> final | 23:44 |
| srichter | well, I guess I need to read about the options then :-) | 23:44 |
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| jenner | srichter: A, I see, a cleaner approach of current portal_transactions tool | 23:44 |
| srichter | I have no idea of what portal_transactions are, but that does not sound like a name I would choose in that context | 23:45 |
| jenner | err | 23:45 |
| jenner | s/portal_transactions/portal_transforms | 23:45 |
| srichter | yeah, that sounds more like it, though I think portal_transforms have different use cases | 23:46 |
| jenner | html -> PDF or DocBook -> XHTML sounds like a perfect use case for XSLT | 23:47 |
| srichter | the main objective is to generate views | 23:49 |
| srichter | I do not know much about XSLT, so I can hardely say how it should work | 23:50 |
| jenner | ah... so basically you'd render an object as XML by default (giving all its data at once) and applying a XSLT stylesheet to show only the relevant parts in a view | 23:51 |
| srichter | something like that | 23:54 |
| srichter | or, on the other hand, should be the template the first thing and the data and o-wrap are transformations | 23:55 |
| srichter | or should the original form be even defined or is it up to the usage? | 23:55 |
| srichter | I have many questions and no answers at this point | 23:56 |
| jenner | up to the usage I'd say... actually the template already _is_ an XML representation of something (given the fact that it's ZPT, since ZPTs have to be well formed), so all you need is a stylesheet that transforms a general view into something more specific... think of a document view template wich displays all DC data, the document body, maybe even comments.. and and XSLT which just rips off the title, date and author and creates a macro which | 23:59 |
| jenner | can be used in a viewlet | 23:59 |
| jenner | sounds interesting :) | 23:59 |
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