| srichter | well, I think Kamal, th ePlone UI designer, was more interested in developing generic templates that can be connected via an XSLT transform | 00:01 |
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| srichter | but I could be wrong | 00:01 |
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| natea | snow sprint videos page updated: http://plone.org/events/sprints/snow-sprint3/snow-sprint-videos/ | 00:46 |
| * jenner is listening to srichter :) | 00:57 | |
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| benji | natea, are .MOVs streamable? Firefox wants to download the whole file before I can watch it; annoying. | 01:00 |
| natea | benji, i think they can be streamed but that usually requires a streaming server | 01:02 |
| benji | pitty | 01:02 |
| natea | maybe we can convince wiggy to install Darwin Streaming server on antiloop.plone.org | 01:02 |
| benji | 134k/sec 18:41 remaining :) | 01:02 |
| natea | the latter ones i'm encoding using H.264 which is very good quality, supports HTTP streaming but takes *forever* to compress on my 1ghz Powerbook | 01:03 |
| natea | the file sizes are much smaller too | 01:03 |
| natea | which one are you dloading? | 01:03 |
| benji | Z3 for Pooh, it looked like the most fun :) | 01:07 |
| natea | yeah, that's the one that has has the most dloads so far: http://stats.plone.org/cgi-bin/awstats.pl?config=media.plone.org&framename=mainright&output=urldetail | 01:08 |
| benji | interesting | 01:13 |
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| eins | hi | 08:18 |
| eins | 2 | 08:18 |
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| slinkP | any Five folks here / awake? i'm not having luck with the registerClass directive | 08:29 |
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| eins | how do I know what permissions are violated? | 09:24 |
| eins | debug skin doesn't help | 09:25 |
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| roman_ | moin | 09:36 |
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| eins | roman_ hi | 09:38 |
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| roman_ | hey eins :) | 09:50 |
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| eins | romanofski I remember you asking here about debug skin for security errors | 09:53 |
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| eins | did you find any way to track security errors? | 09:53 |
| romanofski | yeah - thought that this will only work by using the debug skin | 09:55 |
| eins | but it doesn't | 09:55 |
| eins | I just get You are not authorized to perform this action. However, you may login as a different user who is authorized. which does say nothing | 09:55 |
| romanofski | hm... thats sad | 09:56 |
| eins | error log doesn't seem to give anything more | 09:56 |
| romanofski | right | 09:56 |
| eins | so what am I supposed to do? | 09:57 |
| romanofski | hehe - I don't know actually *G | 09:58 |
| eins | :( | 10:00 |
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| eins | maybe I have to turn off credential challenging | 10:01 |
| eins | I'll try that | 10:01 |
| romanofski | I'd be interested about a solution | 10:02 |
| romanofski | I first thought that there is something like an URL (++debug+securyity++ whatsoever) | 10:03 |
| eins | yeah | 10:05 |
| eins | that would be perfect | 10:05 |
| eins | I don't get why there is still no such feature | 10:05 |
| romanofski | probably no time and resources :) | 10:06 |
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| eins | hmmm turning off credential challenging doesn't help.. | 10:09 |
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| romanofski | moin j-w :) | 10:12 |
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| eins | romanofski finally I managed to do it;) | 10:16 |
| romanofski | how? | 10:16 |
| eins | all that was needed was registering error logging utility | 10:17 |
| romanofski | ah ... okey | 10:17 |
| romanofski | nothing more? | 10:17 |
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| eins | and then going to configuration and removing option to ignore unauthorized exceptions | 10:17 |
| eins | now I get unauthorized exceptions in error log and I can see what permission is violated | 10:18 |
| eins | that's simpler than I thought:) | 10:18 |
| romanofski | right | 10:19 |
| romanofski | cool | 10:19 |
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| eins | does it work for you? | 10:19 |
| eins | :) | 10:19 |
| romanofski | I'm currently not doing any zope3 work, but nice to know though | 10:20 |
| eins | :) | 10:21 |
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| stub | If my code raises Retry exceptions in certain cases, does anyone recall if Z3 is intelligent enough to return an error if I raise too many in a row? Or do I need to maintain my own counter? | 11:45 |
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| stub | Ahh... HTTPRequest handles the retry count. Excellent... | 11:53 |
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| srichter | stub: it does, I did not know; I though 3 retries were pretty much hardcoded | 12:03 |
| srichter | stub: it does, I did not know; I thought 3 retries were pretty much hardcoded | 12:03 |
| stub | srichter: I'm going to update psycopgda to retry on serialization exceptions and deadlocks | 12:04 |
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| srichter | stub: cool | 12:19 |
| stub | Bah - I have to the connection so I can returned a wrapped cursor so I can catch the psycopg exceptions and reraise them as Retry's :-P | 12:22 |
| stub | Bah - I have to wrap the connection so I can returned a wrapped cursor so I can catch the psycopg exceptions and reraise them as Retry's :-P | 12:22 |
| srichter | eek, but at least it is possible ;-) | 12:23 |
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| srichter | mkerrin: hi; how is the WebDAV stuff coming? | 12:39 |
| mkerrin | srichter: slowly | 12:42 |
| srichter | I figured; I guess it is painful? | 12:43 |
| mkerrin | pretty much - I am also looking at getting the other WebDAV protocols working so I needed a bettter way to handle namespaces | 12:44 |
| mkerrin | But I think I have a solution and will have a proposal hopefully be tomorrow / wednesday | 12:44 |
| srichter | cool, I am looking forward to it | 12:45 |
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| RockyBurt | good morning | 14:04 |
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| RockyBurt | wow, replying to srichter's mailing list posts can be a full time job ;) | 14:33 |
| srichter | I usually do not do this | 14:40 |
| srichter | but I had to work through them finally | 14:40 |
| RockyBurt | right | 14:41 |
| RockyBurt | can i ask that you try to do you best to monitor zope3 threads on the plone-devel list moving forward? :) | 14:41 |
| RockyBurt | you wrote some very good posts | 14:42 |
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| philiKON | man, now z3 shit is coming up on plone lists as well? | 15:14 |
| * philiKON needs the day to be at least 48 hours | 15:14 | |
| yota | philiKON: :) | 15:15 |
| RockyBurt | haha | 15:16 |
| RockyBurt | philiKON: you should be aware of the "Cubed" project we initiated at the snow sprint | 15:16 |
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| philiKON | tell me more :) | 15:16 |
| RockyBurt | its a pure zope 3 project (for current dployment on zope 3.2) that we can starting building plone components on that will work there and with plone on zope 2.x | 15:17 |
| philiKON | aha | 15:17 |
| philiKON | so it's a compat layer or what? | 15:18 |
| RockyBurt | not really... | 15:19 |
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| philiKON | RockyBurt, so, i take that as a "go and read the f...ine thread...?" | 15:22 |
| RockyBurt | philiKON: sorry, i'm talking to zopepaul in #z3-base right now | 15:22 |
| philiKON | hehe, ok | 15:22 |
| RockyBurt | honestly, Cubed isn't as defined as it needs to be at this point | 15:22 |
| philiKON | aha | 15:24 |
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| srichter | RockyBurt: I hope you don't mind that I only gave short answers to your mails; it's just I have nothing to add and agree fully :-) | 17:21 |
| RockyBurt | hehe, thats fine ;) | 17:21 |
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| srichter | RockyBurt: everything ok at home? | 17:49 |
| RockyBurt | yeah, its *very* nice to be home :) | 17:49 |
| srichter | :-) | 17:49 |
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| RockyBurt | hearing kids voices in the background -- distractions aside -- is music to my ears ;) | 17:49 |
| srichter | LOL | 17:53 |
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| srichter | yeah, compared to all those geek conversations around | 17:53 |
| RockyBurt | hehe | 17:53 |
| faassen | children, geeks, it's similar. | 17:54 |
| RockyBurt | haha | 17:54 |
| faassen | No SUBVERSION is better! No no DARCS!!! | 17:54 |
| srichter | I see that several other sprinters managed to lurk in this channel | 17:54 |
| faassen | no EMACS | 17:54 |
| RockyBurt | lol | 17:54 |
| srichter | he he | 17:54 |
| srichter | it's all about SVK! | 17:54 |
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| RockyBurt | srichter: you *should* see more and more ploners frequenting this channel... if not, there's a problem ;) | 17:55 |
| * RockyBurt is an avid SVK user | 17:55 | |
| faassen | RockyBurt: I heard from Stephan you all kicked in a few anthills? | 17:55 |
| RockyBurt | faassen: apparently ;) | 17:55 |
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| RockyBurt | huge discussions about it on plone-devel, including stephan's insights ;) | 17:56 |
| faassen | RockyBurt: oh, cool, I shall take a look at plone-devel. :) | 17:56 |
| RockyBurt | faassen: btw, i think jodok and nate are working on a sprint summary to be displayed soon, you'd probably be interested in knowing if anything useful for you came out of it ;) | 17:56 |
| faassen | RockyBurt: cool. | 17:57 |
| faassen | RockyBurt: yeah, there was Five stuff, tramline stuff.. so there was some stuff touching on what we've been doing here. | 17:57 |
| RockyBurt | yeah, PloneTramline was a hot topic | 17:57 |
| faassen | is this the 'planning ahead for platform convergence' thread? | 17:57 |
| RockyBurt | yes | 17:57 |
| faassen | or the clarification on zope 3 etc? | 17:58 |
| RockyBurt | both | 17:58 |
| faassen | okay. yum. :) | 17:58 |
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| RockyBurt | faassen: the plone community welcomes your insights as well :) | 17:58 |
| faassen | heh. | 17:58 |
| RockyBurt | or at least i do ;) | 17:58 |
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| RockyBurt | strichter: hey, some photos of the cool newfoundland names --> http://www.flickr.com/photos/rockyburt/sets/72057594060306157/ | 22:06 |
| benji | are you proposing those for the Zope 3 codename, RockyBurt :) | 22:08 |
| RockyBurt | benji: wel, there's a town nearby called "Dildo" and strichter and whit suggested we do the next zope3 skin there so we can have the Dildo skin ;) | 22:08 |
| RockyBurt | Virgin Arm is in fact my home town ;) | 22:08 |
| benji | no no! :) | 22:09 |
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| mp | is it ok, to use zope's favicon.ico on site about zope? | 23:31 |
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| benji | mp, since it is trademarked you'd have to get a free trademark license first, but other than that it should be fine | 23:49 |
| mp | how do I get free trademark license? :) | 23:51 |
| benji | actually you may not even need that much; this page has details: http://www.zope.com/about_us/legal/zope_logo_usage.html | 23:52 |
| mp | thanks | 23:52 |
| benji | hmm, according to number 2 on the list you'll need a license because you're using the "circle z" by itself, so you'll need to read that page and email a request (which I see no reason why you would be turned down) | 23:54 |
| mp | yes, I got that to | 23:54 |
| mp | but that's silly - it will not fit ;) | 23:54 |
| benji | maybe it's already in there, but it's just too tiny to read :) | 23:55 |
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