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| harobed | hi all, | 12:54 |
| harobed | I read http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/Zope3UIProjects page and comment are very old (2002 | 12:54 |
| harobed | Zope3UI project is dead ? | 12:55 |
| harobed | because I look for use richcomponent like tree in my future zope3 project | 12:56 |
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| srichter | j1m: are you there? | 15:19 |
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| benji | srichter, he's not | 15:31 |
| srichter | benji: thanks :-) | 15:31 |
| srichter | benji: I was just wondering whether it would be okay to implement PersistentSet in the persistent module | 15:32 |
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| benji | srichter, shouldn't it be in persistent.set (like persistent.list and persistent.dict)? | 15:33 |
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| SteveA | hi benji | 15:34 |
| srichter | yes, of course | 15:34 |
| srichter | I was just shortcutting my typing :-) | 15:35 |
| SteveA | do you have a few minutes to continue the testbrowser conversation sometime? | 15:35 |
| benji | hi, SteveA | 15:35 |
| benji | sure, I have a few minutes now, and will have more in a few hours | 15:35 |
| benji | oh, ok, srichter :) | 15:35 |
| SteveA | benji: there was some more discussion on the channel after you left to go to a meeting | 15:36 |
| benji | ok | 15:36 |
| SteveA | i'll try to summarize it | 15:36 |
| benji | or I can read the logs if you wish (and can tell me the date/time) | 15:36 |
| SteveA | if we accept that the scope of testbrowser is to simulate a human using a regular web browser | 15:37 |
| benji | yep | 15:37 |
| SteveA | then there is still a valid use-case for initiating the interaction with the zope3 application with a POST | 15:37 |
| benji | right (given that the POST is initiated via an action on a web page) | 15:37 |
| harobed | hi all, there are in Zope3 a rich component like AJAX Tree component .. ? | 15:37 |
| SteveA | we have this in launchpad where we have a page served by some other system (apache / php / moin / whatever) which has a form, and where the action of the form posts into the zope3 application's space | 15:38 |
| benji | ok | 15:38 |
| benji | so the form is /not/ available from the zope app, but the action /is/, right? | 15:38 |
| SteveA | yes | 15:38 |
| srichter | harobed: sort of, the rotterdam skin has a Tree that uses XmlHttpRequest to get its itesm | 15:39 |
| benji | aah, I see | 15:39 |
| SteveA | a common situation too is where you have http posting to https | 15:39 |
| srichter | harobed: but it is all custom written and does not work in Konqui | 15:39 |
| SteveA | (although that is sometimes not a best practice) | 15:39 |
| harobed | srichter, ok, you are url about it ? | 15:39 |
| benji | I /think/ http posting to https should work already, but the other needs some thought | 15:39 |
| srichter | harobed: svn.zope.org/Zope3/trunk/src/zope/app/rotterdam | 15:39 |
| SteveA | from my point of view, an optional arg to explicitly specify the http method would work | 15:40 |
| harobed | I read http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/Zope3UIProjects page and comment are very old (2002) | 15:40 |
| harobed | Zope3UI project is dead ? | 15:40 |
| srichter | well, it is a sub-project, but little to no work has been done recently | 15:40 |
| benji | you lost me there, SteveA, the problem seems to be that you can't get to the URL to fill out the form, what does that have to do with specifying the method? | 15:41 |
| SteveA | in the production environment, there is an external page that has a form that POSTs into the application | 15:42 |
| SteveA | in the test environment, the "entry point" for testbrowser tests is a POST | 15:42 |
| benji | right, so you need a copy of the page with the form (or a minimal representation of it) | 15:42 |
| SteveA | is there an API to, in python, make such a representation? | 15:42 |
| benji | just a file on the disk would work | 15:43 |
| benji | (an HTML file) | 15:43 |
| benji | use the testbrowser to open it (with a file:// proto), fill it in, and click on the UI element to submit it | 15:43 |
| SteveA | i guess that would work. i'd prefer to be able to construct a form object in python | 15:44 |
| SteveA | as they can be variations i'd want to test | 15:44 |
| SteveA | basically, the "entry point" is a simple API for other systems to use | 15:44 |
| SteveA | the client is still a web browser with a person driving it | 15:44 |
| SteveA | but only part of the system is under my direct control | 15:44 |
| SteveA | i could create a range of HTML files | 15:44 |
| SteveA | but that would get old soon | 15:45 |
| harobed | are there a richtext code editor plugin in mozilla to edit code in zope ? with color syntax, auto indent ... ? | 15:45 |
| mgedmin | benji: we also needed to construct a form control in Python code in a testbrowser test once | 15:45 |
| mgedmin | because in real life that control was added with Javascript | 15:45 |
| srichter | harobed: not that I am aware of | 15:45 |
| mgedmin | (a coworker did that, I'm a bit hazy on the details) | 15:45 |
| SteveA | gotta go. thanks for the chat and the file:// workaround benji ! | 15:46 |
| benji | mgedmin, I *so* want to add a JavaScript interpreter to testbrowser, but I haven't found a good way to do it yet | 15:46 |
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| benji | np, SteveA, if I think of anything else I'll let you know | 15:46 |
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| srichter | benji: me too! | 16:06 |
| benji | if you have any ideas, let me know, I've gone round and round trying to figure out the best (or even tractable) way | 16:06 |
| srichter | I wonder how useful KJS would be | 16:07 |
| benji | haven't looked at it (I've concentrated mostly on spidermonkey) | 16:07 |
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| benji | and it really should be cross platform (Windows and Mac specifically) | 16:08 |
| srichter | of course the entire concept of mechanize would have to change, since you would want to work with a DOM tree rather than an HTML file | 16:08 |
| benji | perhaps... | 16:08 |
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| srichter | benji: I think KJS can be compiled pretty much anywhere; it is KDE independent if I understand the developers correctly | 16:09 |
| srichter | benji: I had looked at spidermonkey too and it seemed pretty dead | 16:09 |
| benji | it might also work to feed the mechanize-returieved HTML to a dom builder and then have the JS interface with that, the rest of testbrowser would remain independent | 16:10 |
| srichter | right | 16:10 |
| benji | spidermonkey is in regular use of course, but as an independent project people don't seemto be doing much with it | 16:10 |
| srichter | ok | 16:10 |
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| srichter | benji: have you tried creating a DOM tree from HTML hook it up to python-spidermonkey and see wether it will work? | 16:15 |
| benji | python-spidermonkey doesn't currently compile | 16:15 |
| srichter | darn | 16:16 |
| benji | (it's a *huge* collection of pyrex) | 16:16 |
| srichter | I bet | 16:16 |
| benji | I've played a little with a minimalist reimplementation and had a bit of success, but it seems like a great deal of work | 16:16 |
| srichter | right | 16:16 |
| benji | after the JS interface I'd then need a DOM implemention | 16:16 |
| srichter | yep | 16:17 |
| benji | I'd really like something that would let me control firefox (with no visible window of course) | 16:17 |
| benji | I've considered doing a XUL app or a FF extension or something, but don't have the time right now | 16:17 |
| srichter | mmh, then you eventually end up with something liek Selenium | 16:20 |
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| benji | not neccesarily, I basically want to treat FF as a library | 16:21 |
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| srichter | I know, but interfacing it with Python might not be that easy | 16:22 |
| benji | Mark Hammond is working on a couple of Python FF interface issues XPCOM and using Python as an in-browser scripting language | 16:23 |
| srichter | ok, cool | 16:24 |
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| elro | Hi there, I'm using formlib and so far it rocks, I've got it rendering a form and an action | 17:54 |
| elro | now I need to return some search results from my search action | 17:54 |
| elro | and have no idea what to do next :-(. WIth CMFFormController I'd traverse to another page template, what's the equivalent? | 17:56 |
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| elro | I just return u'Foo' and it works! yay! | 18:11 |
| rockyburt | elro: for the record, zope3 has no equiv of cmffc which is proving to be a pain for plone developer adoption ;) | 18:18 |
| elro | formlib does seem to offer a lot though, I've really wanted schema based forms in plone for ages now | 18:19 |
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| slap | hello all, I'm try to install zope and after issuing: make check it returns me 1 error in 8037 tests. It doesn't show the error and what i should do. So, what can I do? | 21:01 |
| slap | should I continue in the instalation, and run a make install? | 21:01 |
| slap | I didn't find any reference in the documentation. | 21:04 |
| benji | slap, you can re-run the tests with the -v flag (run test.py in the base of the untarred archive) | 21:04 |
| slap | i'll try it. thanks | 21:04 |
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| slap | benji: is there any problem on running the tests as root? | 21:16 |
| benji | yes, dont' to that :) | 21:16 |
| slap | I think the problem is it. | 21:17 |
| benji | it is /a/ problem, one or more tests will fail if run as root | 21:17 |
| philiKON | slap, never ever work as root | 21:17 |
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| slap | in fact i don't work as root I just compile and install programs as root | 21:19 |
| slap | but, ok. I'll do it as a normal user. | 21:19 |
| philiKON | compile + test as normal user, just run make install as root (preferrably using sudo or su) | 21:21 |
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| slap | yes, the make check returned no errors. Thank you all very much. | 21:35 |
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